The Bandicoot Returns (and It's About Time!) Crash's Nitro-Fueled Smash Thread

[chocolatejr9]

Another good idea I've seen thrown around for a reveal trailer for Crash was have people in Mario, DK, Yoshi and Pikachu costumes square off against the guy in the Crash suit, as a throwback to that infamous Smash 64 commercial. I'll honestly have to think of something myself.

I'm still extremely confident Crash will be in Smash, and I'm thinking about putting a Crash moveset in here, because there are some unique things I've thought of for a Crash moveset.

This kinda reminds me of my idea for Crash's trailer: it starts like the Smash 64 trailer, with Mario, DK, Yoshi and Pikachu walking through some random flower field. Suddenly, Crash drives up in his car and starts smacktalking Mario and his gaming career... which actually causes Mario to start crying. Crash is completely caught off-guard by this, not realising he could hurt Mario's feelings, but before he can properly apologise, the others attack him for being a jerk. Cue Smash gameplay.

I don't know why, but I kinda like the idea of Crash getting karma for his earlier, more infamous trailers. I doubt they'd go this route, though...

 

[Perkilator]

Spoiler: Cr4sh spoilers

I do kinda wish 1996 Cortex was voiced by Clancy Brown in Crash 4. It would've done a better job at differentiating the two Cortexes.

 

[StrangeKitten]

I'd be surprised if they go the people-in-costumes route since, y'know, covid. Though they might be able to scrape by if Crash is a late 2021 reveal. We do have enough time here that maybe, if things improve a lot, it could happen. Alternatively, an animation of people in costumes would be a lot of work, but they could do that. Or maybe even just making the characters look like their N64/Playstation polygonal selves

If we have a couple characters between now and Crash, the beginning of the Steve trailer will seem less redundant. Maybe a callback to it with Steve now in on the action, like how the K Rool trailer got a callback for Banjo.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Here's a thought:

Smash dance party with Crash as a reveal trailer.

To get back on topic with Crash, I think Crash could be either CP9, 10 or 11, but I'm leaning moreso towards 10, since I think he will be the last character revealed at E3 as another double reveal.

Yeah, your line of thought makes sense, especially since June is an extremely important month for Crash, to Activision.

 

[Enigma735]

I'd be surprised if they go the people-in-costumes route since, y'know, covid. Though they might be able to scrape by if Crash is a late 2021 reveal. We do have enough time here that maybe, if things improve a lot, it could happen. Alternatively, an animation of people in costumes would be a lot of work, but they could do that. Or maybe even just making the characters look like their N64/Playstation polygonal selves

If we have a couple characters between now and Crash, the beginning of the Steve trailer will seem less redundant. Maybe a callback to it with Steve now in on the action, like how the K Rool trailer got a callback for Banjo.

I would be down with that. I would love to see Sonic forward smash Mario in to another video game.

 

[Brother AJ]

If it is just a reference then that kind of worries me... Why do that if a character is coming to Smash? Idk. I'm tired of not knowing!

 

[Enigma735]

If it is just a reference then that kind of worries me... Why do that if a character is coming to Smash? Idk. I'm tired of not knowing!

I don't think that means anything. Sakurai can easily reference a game and get that character from said game to Smash. Sakurai has referenced Minecraft a lot in recent years and we already know Steve in Smash was five years in the making. Sakurai knew of Steve being in Smash while talking about Minecraft in that time. I don't think that effects his chances at all.

 

[Megadoomer]

If it is just a reference then that kind of worries me... Why do that if a character is coming to Smash? Idk. I'm tired of not knowing!

It could be because he's playing Crash 4 and enjoying it, if it's even related to Crash at all. Not everything has to tie into Smash somehow.

 

[MattX20]

This could bode well for Crash and Coco as a playable alt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrQBhual9KY

 

[Enigma735]

This could bode well for Crash and Coco as a playable alt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrQBhual9KY

As much as I'd love this, I don't think a Crash and Coco alt would work well since they have different body types.

 

[Deleted member]

As much as I'd love this, I don't think a Crash and Coco alt would work well since they have different body types.

Fake Crash would work much better as an alt, since their body types are the same.

 

[Rural_Juror]

As much as I'd love this, I don't think a Crash and Coco alt would work well since they have different body types.

Agreed. There's a reason characters with little differences like Daisy and Dark Samus are echoes instead of alts: Personality-wise, it makes little sense for them to share some of the same animations and effects as the characters they're based on. Coco is nothing like Crash personality-wise and her using the same taunts, victory poses, and some animations would be weird. She'd be a perfect echo, but not a good alt.

 

[Voe]

At best Coco, as well as Cortex could be special Mii costumes. I guess Coco could be a gunner if her mii costume would carry her pink laptop.

 

[Faso115]

The Byleth's have slightly different winning poses and taunts so i guess they could go the extra mile and have Coco have slightly different taunts. N. Sane Trilogy and 4 have already established that Coco can do the same things as crash.

I would love her an echo

 

[Rural_Juror]

The Byleth's have slightly different winning poses and taunts so i guess they could go the extra mile and have Coco have slightly different taunts. N. Sane Trilogy and 4 have already established that Coco can do the same things as crash.

I would love her an echo

I think that's different though; Inkling does the same with some taunts and a screen KO animation I beleive, but Coco would need a lot of different animations for more than just taunts and poses. Would likely need a different run animation, walk animation, belly flop animation, etc. If that much work is being put into an alt, I don't think it's an alt at that point.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

After watching this video combined with Voice Theory with Coco as a possible alternate costume or Aku Aku as his Final Smash and part of his victory animation. I'd say things are looking really good being a popular icon worldwide, the original mascot of Sony and being big in the 90s competing with Mario and Sonic, though still doesn't guarantee Crash being a lock.

 

[Deleted member]

At best Coco, as well as Cortex could be special Mii costumes. I guess Coco could be a gunner if her mii costume would carry her pink laptop.

I was thinking Coco would be a Mii costume as well, though I'd rather her be a Brawler costume if that were to happen. Cortex would 100% be a Gunner, though.

 

[Rural_Juror]

I was thinking about this last night, but there's a nonzero chance one of the fighter packs could come with an echo fighter. Granted nonzero could mean 0.001% but I think if the echo doesn't behave too different like Lucina or Ken it's a very small possibility.

Very small.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

It could be because he's playing Crash 4 and enjoying it, if it's even related to Crash at all. Not everything has to tie into Smash somehow.

Or it's simply his staff having fun.

Generally, Sakurai's hints are more obvious than this (for instance, Pseudo-Palutena), even though they rarely happen outside of reveal trailers at all.

I was thinking about this last night, but there's a nonzero chance one of the fighter packs could come with an echo fighter. Granted nonzero could mean 0.001% but I think if the echo doesn't behave too different like Lucina or Ken it's a very small possibility.

Very small.

Well, Sak didn't tell us to expect anything that was never promised. I still think it's only six unique fighters.

After watching this video combined with Voice Theory with Coco as a possible alternate costume or Aku Aku as his Final Smash and part of his victory animation. I'd say things are looking really good being a popular icon worldwide, the original mascot of Sony and being big in the 90s competing with Mario and Sonic, though still doesn't guarantee Crash being a lock.

Sure. With only four spots left, any character could be prioritized over Crash, depending on how far he's been on Nintendo's "list" of suggestions.

For what it's worth though, being made outside of Japan no longer poses a problem.

 

[OsirisOda]

Oh I'm dumb there's a Crash Bandicoot thread right here

 

[Brother AJ]

I don't think that means anything. Sakurai can easily reference a game and get that character from said game to Smash. Sakurai has referenced Minecraft a lot in recent years and we already know Steve in Smash was five years in the making. Sakurai knew of Steve being in Smash while talking about Minecraft in that time. I don't think that effects his chances at all.

It could be because he's playing Crash 4 and enjoying it, if it's even related to Crash at all. Not everything has to tie into Smash somehow.

Yea, I feel like I'm getting paranoid at this point. Thinking way too much... lol

I do think it's almost impossible that this isn't a reference though.

As much as I'd love this, I don't think a Crash and Coco alt would work well since they have different body types.

Well, despite their different proportions, the difference between Crash and Coco in the Nsane trilogy (not sure about Crash 4) is purely cosmetic, so it seems fitting to me. I'm sure Sakurai would want their bodies to be similar in game though, and that shouldn't take too much tinkering honestly. As he said in the voice theory video, it's not as if character size needs to be canonical.

If he doesn't decide to go this route with Coco I feel a Monster Hunter character is VERY likely. Honestly I think either Crash or MH will fill that extra spot in the voice menu.

 

[Enigma735]

Well, despite their different proportions, the difference between Crash and Coco in the Nsane trilogy (not sure about Crash 4) is purely cosmetic, so it seems fitting to me. I'm sure Sakurai would want their bodies to be similar in game though, and that shouldn't take too much tinkering honestly. As he said in the voice theory video, it's not as if character size needs to be canonical.

If he doesn't decide to go this route with Coco I feel a Monster Hunter character is VERY likely. Honestly I think either Crash or MH will fill that extra spot in the voice menu.

True, but people also pointed out that personality-wise, Coco is nothing like Crash. Coco is shown to be far more intelligent then Crash is and I just can't see Coco sharing the same animations as Crash, because it would just look really strange. And if they were to animate Coco differently from Crash, then they should might as well make Coco an Echo then, which we already know isn't gonna happen in these Passes. This is just my whole two cents on the matter.

 

[Ben Holt]

True, but people also pointed out that personality-wise, Coco is nothing like Crash. Coco is shown to be far more intelligent then Crash is and I just can't see Coco sharing the same animations as Crash, because it would just look really strange. And if they were to animate Coco differently from Crash, then they should might as well make Coco an Echo then, which we already know isn't gonna happen in these Passes. This is just my whole two cents on the matter.

I think we could get Echo Fighters as bonuses like Deluxe Mii Costumes.
Echo Fighters basically ARE costumes, but they do take more effort for animations and voices.
My ideal Echo Fighter DLC would be: Ms. Pac-Man, Coco Bandicoot (provided we get Crash), Proto Man, Zack Fair, Dry Bowser, and Shadow the Hedgehog (if, and big if, Assist Trophies don't deconfirm characters).

 

[Enigma735]

I think we could get Echo Fighters as bonuses like Deluxe Mii Costumes.
Echo Fighters basically ARE costumes, but they do take more effort for animations and voices.
My ideal Echo Fighter DLC would be: Ms. Pac-Man, Coco Bandicoot (provided we get Crash), Proto Man, Zack Fair, Dry Bowser, and Shadow the Hedgehog (if, and big if, Assist Trophies don't deconfirm characters).

Yeah I could see this. I'm not too sure of how likely it is given I feel Echo Fighters were added to expand the base roster, and now that they are in DLC, I feel like they could use this time to build upon completely new characters, but I think its possible at the very least if Sakurai decides to expand the roster a little more after while also not taking up too much development time.

 

[Deleted member]

It always felt odd to give echo fighters an official term, just to barely add anymore. I don't think it would be too odd for a dlc to come with an echo, especially if they're considered newcomers no different from base roster inclusions. I mean, Simon and Richter came at the same time, even if that was a special case.

 

[Enigma735]

It always felt odd to give echo fighters an official term, just to barely add anymore. I don't think it would be too odd for a dlc to come with an echo, especially if they're considered newcomers no different from base roster inclusions. I mean, Simon and Richter came at the same time, even if that was a special case.

I would be completely fine with Echo Fighter DLC as long as its free. No, not because I'm poor, but because I feel it'd be kinda scummy to have to pay for characters that are essentially clones.

 

[Deleted member]

I would be completely fine with Echo Fighter DLC as long as its free. No, not because I'm poor, but because I feel it'd be kinda scummy to have to pay for characters that are essentially clones.

Well, as for I, it depends on how much of a clone they are. If it's like Daisy or Richter, no way in heck. But if it's something like Dark Samus, Lucina, or Dark Pit, who end up slightly different strategies, then sure!

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

This DLC batch is the final one until further notice. If there were Echo Fighters coming during or after this, they would have said so, and they are generally saved as bonuses for the base roster.

As for Coco being an alt, I don't necessarily think it would be that impossible. had a few subtle differences compared to , so I imagine that it wouldn't take too much work to pull off.

And recent Crash games had Coco act goofy in the gameplay itself, not any cutscenes. Besides, there's usually something that's off about a fighter when they finally get into Smash, so it'd be just an average Tuesday (even when Steve got in, his Enderman alt had much shorter limbs than average for their species).

As for Monster Hunter, I wouldn't get my hopes up, they'd do a spirit event for Rise at most at this stage of dev.

 

[Brother AJ]

True, but people also pointed out that personality-wise, Coco is nothing like Crash. Coco is shown to be far more intelligent then Crash is and I just can't see Coco sharing the same animations as Crash, because it would just look really strange. And if they were to animate Coco differently from Crash, then they should might as well make Coco an Echo then, which we already know isn't gonna happen in these Passes. This is just my whole two cents on the matter.

That's a good point about personality. I doubt the fans or Sakurai for that matter would want that. Monster Hunter is starting to seem more and more likely to me.

 

[Deleted member]

I've got some stuff for a Crash moveset, but not enough stuff for a whole moveset. This is what I have so far:

• Jab is from Crash of the Titans
• Neutral Special is the Spin. Tapping the button will make him do the Death Tornado Spin. Reflects projectiles.
• Up Special is either the Jet Pack from Cortex Strikes Back, or the Rocket Jump from N.Tranced.
• Down Special is a TNT crate spawn (or he can just spawn different types of crates besides it overall)
• Dash Attack is the slide, which you can cancel into a jump
• Final Smash is Brio's laser from Cortex Strikes Back

And for miscellaneous stuff I have:

• Coco as a Mii Brawler costume
• Cortex as a Mii Gunner costume
• Aku Aku as a piece of headgear
• The Spirit Board I had in mind is currently consisted of Polar, Coco, Tiny, Dingodile, N. Gin, Brio, and Cortex, with Cortex being a legend spirit.
• The arrangements I had in mind currently consist of N. Sanity Beach, The Cortex Strikes Back title screen theme, Hang Eight, The Time Twister, and a Cortex medley combining all of his themes from the original trilogy.

What do you think? What should be here?

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Regarding Voice Theory. Assuming our favorite bandicoot gets in, anyone thought of Fake Crash being one of his alts? I say this because this is assuming Crash and Fake Crash have different voice actors. Do they?

 

[Deleted member]

Regarding Voice Theory. Assuming our favorite bandicoot gets in, anyone thought of Fake Crash being one of his alts? I say this because this is assuming Crash and Fake Crash have different voice actors. Do they?

I have thought about it a lot more than I'd like to admit. And they do. Well, in Crash 4, since Fake Crash is a skin for Crash, sort of? But in Nitro-Fueled, Fake Crash has an entirely different Voice actor.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Regarding Voice Theory. Assuming our favorite bandicoot gets in, anyone thought of Fake Crash being one of his alts? I say this because this is assuming Crash and Fake Crash have different voice actors. Do they?

Until further notice, Andrew Morgado does Fake Crash as per Nitro-Fueled.

In It's About Time, Fake himself isn't voiced in Run It Bayou, and he has a skin based on him used by regular Crash.

 

[Ben Holt]

Regarding Voice Theory. Assuming our favorite bandicoot gets in, anyone thought of Fake Crash being one of his alts? I say this because this is assuming Crash and Fake Crash have different voice actors. Do they?

This would be the proper alt.
Coco deserves to be a full-on Echo.
Though my dream Crash alt is Biker Crash.

If the stars align, and I get EXACTLY what I want, then we'll get Crash as a character, Biker Crash and Fake Crash as alts, Coco as an Echo, Dr. Cortex as a Deluxe Mii Gunner Costume, Dingodile Gunner Costume, Crunch Brawler Costume, N. Tropy Swordfighter Costume, Tawna (Crash 4) Brawler Costume, Aku Aku mask as a universal Mii Costume, Uka Uka mask (universal), Coco Wig (universal), Crash Mohawk (with eyebrows, universal), Spyro Mask (his entire head, universal), and Spyro Horns (universal).

 

[Deleted member]

Regarding Voice Theory. Assuming our favorite bandicoot gets in, anyone thought of Fake Crash being one of his alts? I say this because this is assuming Crash and Fake Crash have different voice actors. Do they?

Definitely hoping Fake Crash is an alt, as well as Biker Crash.

 

[Faso115]

I get the feeling Fake Crash and Cute Crash (The JP version) could be alts.

 

[Enigma735]

I get the feeling Fake Crash and Cute Crash (The JP version) could be alts.

I have a feeling that if Crash gets in Smash, his default outfit will be different depending on what region your playing in, kinda like R.O.B. If you're playing the Japanese version, Cute Crash would be the default outfit, and if you're playing the American version, American Crash would be the default outfit.

 

[Deleted member]

Would they even consider that still? I mean, as of It's about time, they seemed to have dropped the idea of cute Crash? Kind of like how Kirby as of recent now universally has identical boxart instead of Angry in the US and happy anywhere else. Plus, Crash's cute design has only ever actually been how he looked in-game once, and even then it was a costume.

Not saying it can't happen, but I feel like they wanna get rid of the weird divide between designs nowadays.

 

[Enigma735]

Would they even consider that still? I mean, as of It's about time, they seemed to have dropped the idea of cute Crash? Kind of like how Kirby as of recent now universally has identical boxart instead of Angry in the US and happy anywhere else. Plus, Crash's cute design has only ever actually been how he looked in-game once, and even then it was a costume.

Not saying it can't happen, but I feel like they wanna get rid of the weird divide between designs nowadays.

I think they could consider it just as a neat nod to the Crash promotion in Japan. They might not do what I suggested but I'd be shocked if Cute Crash wasn't an alt

 

[ChunkySlugger72]

I could take or leave fake Crash, But if I had to be honest I never really cared about him or that he never really did much for me anyways, Prefer the original.

Biker Crash would be pretty sweet though, But I personally don't see it happening, Hoping I'm wrong.

I think most Crash Bandicoot fans can agree that in terms of extra content the biggest "Get" would be getting Coco to come alongside Crash as an Echo/Alt.