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This post is also horrible, you're trying to discredit JDietz on what he's done and not looking at the big picture of what he got. You really think scum is gonna stick their neck out like this so early on? They just happened to peg the doctor? You are smarter than this and you jumping to this conclusion is terribly scummy.
Swiss wanting protection meant nothing at all, Swiss would want protection as town regardless of his role. Are you talking about the instance where Kuz+Swiss debated about mechanics and who should hammer and whatnot? Show me what is so telling about Swiss crumbing doctor there or trying to make him clarify that he wanted protection, there is nothing truly there that says Swiss was playing in a way that he wanted protection. Swiss was just playing as Swiss.
Funny, Deitz had an effective guilty, claiming he saw him attempt a night kill. Yet didn't claim this.
So if J is the doctor.-_-.
We're not getting a CC.
Doc don't CC no matter what. It's pointless if you do. You're not a lynch target today, and J will probably get lynched anyways. You will only be screwing the town over if you do.
Going after Ryu tomorrow if J flips scum.
I don't think I've ever seen scum, mafia, purposely not kill to send a WIFOM bomb on the cast.
I Want the doc to out themselves if J is lying.
If not that is something to think about.
That's a terrible idea RR. You can only become champion once, we'd be losing a doc and only be able to keep them alive one time for no reason.I love how Rag is implying there aren't scum roles that would gleefully suicide like this, like how Ryker and Raziek got Bardull lynched with the intent of suiciding the next day in Gigabots.
I want a CC if he is lying. If he is we lynch and if not we reread and consider both options. I do think people are writing off J too fast and we got the hammer ability if someone else is the doc.
You mean, except for the part where I did and everyone knows about it because I brought it up?
There's no dead body Ryu, are you even reading the thread.
It's a follow, I don't get to know that. Read the thread.
Once again, except for when I did, after voting him point blank at the start of the day. You're being dense Ryu, seeing someone has a kill isn't a gaurentee of scum over vig, and screaming "YO GUYS I SAW HE HAS A KILL" at the top of my lungs would just make him claim vig. Seeing someone have a kill putting pressure on them and then having them claim doc is definitive. This interaction makes perfect sense and you're being transparently scummy not accepting it and asking these questions that will go nowhere.
I already addressed this yesterDay:
This bolded part I really like because I think it's a nice little hint at Jdeitz's results before he claimed. I also think that it makes sense for JDeitz to push RR, he had a clear result on J, and if he would have been able to get hammer immunity, he could have pursued another scumread while knowing he could go after J toMorrow.
This (minus the doc claim) is exactly how I reacted to a guilty result on me in D.Gray mafia. The anger/denial, the claim, and then making the accuser come across as clearly scummy.
1) You know that there are more reasons for there to be no nk than a doc, J. Especially in a large game like this, there could be any number of prs/bps/indies that could affect or stop the nk other than the doc.
If there is a doc they absolutely should NOT claim, there is no good that could come from it.I don't think I've ever seen scum, mafia, purposely not kill to send a WIFOM bomb on the cast.
I Want the doc to out themselves if J is lying.
If not that is something to think about.
Explain why you think people are writing of J too fast, what about his claim/reaction to JDeitz's results make you believe him? Also do you think that one of Jdeitz/J has to be scum?I love how Rag is implying there aren't scum roles that would gleefully suicide like this, like how Ryker and Raziek got Bardull lynched with the intent of suiciding the next day in Gigabots.
I want a CC if he is lying. If he is we lynch and if not we reread and consider both options. I do think people are writing off J too fast and we got the hammer ability if someone else is the doc.
I don't wanna lynch a potential doc to be lynched, I'm reading for intent and which of you is more likely.
Did it force a scum lynch?
The bolded is the first time I read something I can get behind and see a reason to go J over Deitz.
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I understand that if there is a cc, it would securely place J as scum and ensure a scum lynch, but like I said it also puts two prs out in the open. I guess it comes down to risk/reward analysis, but I don't like J's reaction/claim at all while I like JDeitz's claim and his approach to his results enough to go J toDay without asking for a cc and outing a doc if there is one.
