TAKE THAT! Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney smashes the prosecution!

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Whether or not Phoenix Wright gets picked for Smash Ultimate, it does do my heart good to see him consistently rank highest in polls when it comes to Capcom reps for getting into Smash that involve him.

That's something no other Capcom rep can claim.

Heck, out of 718 characters, he polled at 13th place.
Love how even Source Gaming called him "the king of Capcom reps"
 

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One of his victory poses should be Maya doing the thing in MvC3 where she sprinkles confetting everywhere while Phoenix is acting sheepish.
As much as I love that pose I think it's time Smash shows the REAL source of the confetti and brings in Gumshoe, pal!

...Edgeworth echo with Gumshoe as the assistant cmon guys
 

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Since the Ultimate victory screens are lively, I hope they assert the Ace Attorney humor onto them. I am sure they would.

I am still a big fan of the sprite poses as aerials you can't change my mind.
 

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First time I see Phoenix mentioned in any "leak". The good thing is E3 is soon and if the Erdrick and Edelgard parts come true it might start looking up for us.

Might as well keep an eye on it, despite being 99.99% fake.

That joke character jab though. Yeeesh.
 
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First time I see Phoenix mentioned in any "leak". The good thing is E3 is soon and if the Erdrick and Edelgard parts come true it might start looking up for us.

Might as well keep an eye on it, despite being 99.99% fake.

That joke character jab though. Yeeesh.
>Baboom

Heh, why does that sound like a name I can totally see Gamefreak giving to a Pokemon...

That said, I can't really see them giving away echo fighters for free since they still take significantly more time and effort to make than Mii fighter costumes, even for other DLC characters. I'd imagine they would give them a discount for existing Joker owners at best though.
 
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First time I see Phoenix mentioned in any "leak". The good thing is E3 is soon and if the Erdrick and Edelgard parts come true it might start looking up for us.

Might as well keep an eye on it, despite being 99.99% fake.

That joke character jab though. Yeeesh.
I don't think they would add a echo from a game isn't even coming to switch, let alone another Pokémon...
 

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I don't think they would add a echo from a game isn't even coming to switch, let alone another Pokémon...
Pokemon is the biggest gaming series out there, and right at the hype of the first mainline game on console's release. Makes sense with Nintendo having a say for this DLC.

Having said that, I think it's too informative at this stage.
 
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For some reason, I can see a Sword and Shield Mon being used more as a surprise first reveal for a fighters pass 2 if that where to be a thing.

Even better if Layton (with Phoenix) was revealed beforehand and his stage morphing towards Galar out of nowhere and them wondering if their still in London, since both games are based off the UK. But oh well, one can dream...
 
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They say it's Nintendo making a list and Sakurai picking from it, so I've been working with that info, but hey, we've been misled before, like after the K.Rool Direct they said they were picking characters from the ballot - and they were - but after that we got Isabelle, Ken, and Incineroar who I doubt were big winners or didn't even exist yet. So! I guess we could still get advertising choices like Edelgard and a S&S Pokemon.

I still think this leak is super fake but I'm just imagining if it was real for a sec cause uhh well hey, Banjo and Sora would make the most people happy, but I'd play as a grass monkey Pokemon and totally take Phoenix... Edelgard has magic and an axe too? Neat...! I really don't think we should get any more Fire Emblem and hope Sakurai hasn't changed his mind from the interview he had after Corrin in Smash 4 where even he admitted "Yeah this is too much Fire Emblem" https://twinfinite.net/2015/12/super-smash-bros-roster-sakurai-fire-emblem/

...I also personally find Erdrick and almost anyone else with a sword boring at this point, plus I would hope Sakurai would shy away from sword fighters after admitting sword characters are hard to differentiate at this point https://nintendoeverything.com/saku...a-plant-character-changes-online-much-more/3/ (around the part when talking about Piranha Plant's unique potential)

So yeah! This is super fake, but just for pretend if it turned out real...I would feel sorry for lots of fans and wish em better luck next time, but absolutely take my lawyer. But do I want it to be real? Mm... If there was another leak that promised Banjo and Sora who I don't personally care about that much but I know would make so many people happy.......tsk......agh, that's actually kinda tough haha Doesn't Sora get enough spotlight? But Banjo definitely doesn't, even less than Phoenix, but all the other choices in that fake leak with Phoenix are so boring... aaaghhh... I want people to be happy, but I want my turn too, I actually can't choose, maybe I'll figure it out later, wow I made myself feel kinda bad sorryyy pffft
 

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Fake leak, but Joker and Phoenix in the same pass plus a Monkey pokemon to troll my friends with? I'm cool with that. Not the most exciting thing in the world but again, I'd get my two most-wanted which would just be nuts. Characters are just cool.
 
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First time I see Phoenix mentioned in any "leak". The good thing is E3 is soon and if the Erdrick and Edelgard parts come true it might start looking up for us.

Might as well keep an eye on it, despite being 99.99% fake.

That joke character jab though. Yeeesh.
Hmmm, if that Pokemon evolution does turn out to be named "Baboom", then that would be a point in this leak's favor. That said, we should hopefully learn about the evolutions by E3.
 

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First time I see Phoenix mentioned in any "leak". The good thing is E3 is soon and if the Erdrick and Edelgard parts come true it might start looking up for us.

Might as well keep an eye on it, despite being 99.99% fake.

That joke character jab though. Yeeesh.
With all the talk about the DLC (Joker being emblematic etc), I don't see them adding another pokemon and fire emblem character.
 

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With all the talk about the DLC (Joker being emblematic etc), I don't see them adding another pokemon and fire emblem character.
that and if xenoblade 2 and arms were out too late for the base roster then surely three houses and sword and shield are too late for the fighters pass especially as its implied theyve already been chosen
 

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that and if xenoblade 2 and arms were out too late for the base roster then surely three houses and sword and shield are too late for the fighters pass especially as its implied theyve already been chosen
Sakurai even said in the November direct that he wanted to put Rex in, but there wasn’t enough time (translation: the game was too new). I assume it was the same for Spring Man. That would 100% be the case for a gen 8 starter.
 

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Well I dunno about that, when Joker was revealed it was said they've been working on the next two DLC fighters. We know Gen 8 exists and the games'll be here soon enough but Game Freak definitely has art and ideas for the evolutions of the starters we've seen and it's possible Sakurai reserved a spot for a Pokemon. Greninja was added when all Sakurai saw was some art of him and a spot was even saved for Incineroar for Ultimate. So it's possible when deciding the DLC, Sakurai reserved another spot for "Gen 8 Pokemon" and can even wait for more info on it while working on other DLC characters. Just possible though, I'm just guessing here, but I would assume he'd pursue other characters rather than a vague Pokemon possibility?
 

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Could easily be Rex was too late for base game, but wasn't picked for the DLC period either.

Why? Well if this leak is true, then the Nintendo characters are from games coming out rather than already released. It would make sense in that context.

Dragon Quest also has an upcoming game and I can see Square favoring that based on their business model. Phoenix, however, makes no sense to be a Capcom decision.

Also it would be strange that Edelgard is being worked on before Phoenix. Could it be to correlate with the Three Houses' release? Perhaps, but that seems farfetched from all the way back in November.
 
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If Phoenix Wright is a part of the fighters pass, I'm expecting him to be character 4 or 5. E3 has never announced anything relating to the Ace Attorney series before, and TGS (Tokyo Games Show) is where most of the mainline Ace Attorney games get announced in Japan. If Ace Attorney 7 gets announced at TGS in September, with an English localization announced soon after, then Phoenix Wright being playable in Smash could definitely be a great promotional followup.
 

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I got into Ace Attorney two years ago when a YouTuber I was subscribed to started a playthrough of Spirit of Justice (they also helped with the fan translation of Investigations 2, which is cool because that game is amazing.) I never heard of the series, but I started watching it and it just hooked me in and I checked out all the past games, except for Dai Gyakuten Saipan, and now I’m a fan of the series.

So, I would like to join in to support Phoenix. He is probably the only character I would be excited about.
 
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So I played the original Ace Attorney a few years ago, but haven't played any of the sequels until now with the Trilogy on switch. Just got done with Justice for All, and now I'm on the second trial for Trials and Tribulations.

Trying to create a moveset for Phoenix for fun. I actually feel like a move set centered around the evidence mechanics works better in smash than in marvel, as Smash already has an entire system for items.
 
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Think people are sleeping on the Magatama being useful for a move.
Yeah Psyche-locks are an unique mechanic of Ace Attorney and showcase to supernatural side of the series. I'm still formulating a move set, but the Magatama and the Psyche-locks are definitely on the radar for me. I'm thinking it could be a way to used as a "mark for death" mechanic, when you hit somebody with the magatama attack it places a Psche-lock on them (a lock covers their icon at the bottom of the screen to show that their "marked").

I honestly had no idea until I actually stated playing the games that there was going to be so much about spirits and spirit mediums in Ace Attorney, it was actually a real surprise to me.
 

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Think people are sleeping on the Magatama being useful for a move.
I always imagined the magatama and the psyche-locks being used as the final smash, kind of like Bowser Jr.'s FS except you can break the locks. Though if they use them in his normal moveset his final smash could also be the black psyche-locks.
 

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Since grabbing would be out of character for Phoenix, in my vid I put the Magatama as his grab! Instead of holding and throwing someone violently, he takes out the Magatama and the opponent is stuck, getting interrogated! Psyche locks appearing and slamming against the opponent's chest is the pummel, and for the throws, Phoenix points while the chains and locks carry the opponent away!

I would really vote the Magatama be used for his entire grab game since, without it, I imagine it being way more awkward?

Edit: Visuals and stuff: https://youtu.be/ybB1fpE8maY?t=881
 
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