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TAKE THAT! Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney smashes the prosecution!

Caladuz

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If it so happens that Ace Attorney doesn't even get spirits, could we even hope for Phoenix making it in to the next game over his competition?
Seems unlikely at that point tbh. There is much more priority for other things, AA doesn't really resonate with Nintendo it seems.
 

AnEasterEgg

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Well boys, the miracle never happen. But a lawyer never gives up. When Smash 6 arrives, I will be there rooting for Phoenix again.

I mean, unless I die first. That's always a possibility.
 

amageish

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the count on spirits with the note saying "as of September 2021" makes me wonder if it was worded that way just in preparation for the KH spirits board, or if they'll at least plan to carry on supporting the game through spirit events, tourneys and (hopefully) balance patches. Probably reading too much into it though.
I think this makes sense. If nothing else, spirits are a good way to promote new games and continue to expand the crossover... I do also think it is possibly TGAA will have a gift spirit event like Ghosts and Goblins did.

Well, it's been an interesting ride! Even if Smash hasn't worked out this time around, TGAA's release and reception does give me a fair amount of hope for the future of the series in general and that's really what I care about most at the end of the day - Ace Attorney games continuing to actually be localized.
 

Flyboy

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Hoping for an AA spirit event and for our boy to make it in next game. I'm satisfied, happy even, and have enjoyed every second of the ride.
 

slrigeigdew

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The mii costume showcase was our last hope of seeing him in Ultimate but his chances for the next Smash game have never looked better imo

Although Nick will have to compete with Monster Hunter and Dante all over again, Square and Microsoft have shown that multiple characters from 3rd party companies are still possible, even with DLC. I'm confident Mr. Wright will his raise an objection in Smash one day.
 
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Flyboy

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The mii costume showcase was our last hope of seeing him in Ultimate but his chances for the next Smash game have never looked better imo

Although Nick will have to compete with Monster Hunter and Dante all over again, Square and Microsoft have shown that multiple characters from 3rd party companies are still possible, even with DLC. I'm confident Mr. Wright will his raise an objection in Smash one day.
Agreed! Ace Attorney is still a series that is alive and well, and as you said everyone wants to get into Smash now. I think he definitely could make it in the future. No sadness here, only fond memories.
 

Lazyrex

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As disappointed I am I ultimately feel the most bad for the Dark souls rep fans, that trailer fit way better for Dark souls than Sora
 

KirbyMonadoBoy

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A great finale and a very pleasing character, unfortunately still a very sad end for the Phoenix gang... it's really disappointing that there is not a single representation of Ace Attorney in Smash at all, not even a spirit event... no Pursuit Cornered... no mii costume... nothing...
 

KirbyWorshipper2465

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It's fine to cry now, at least the final fighter's a pretty big deal. And the funny thing is that his custom icon was on my sig once, so I don't regret much of anything.

I was pretty sure that Capcom would miss out on the DLC boat this time anyways, but at least AA is making a resurgence, so Nick can have a chance next time.
 

SmashSSL

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As for the last fighter, I don't really care for him, but my bar was so low I'm just glad it wasn't a Pokemon/FE self insert tier reveal. I don't want to know the nightmare it must have been to get the proper rights to add him in.
Pretty much my thoughts as well
Im not exactly excited it was him, I'm more like "relieved" it wasn't anyone worse
 

[Maple]

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Not a fan of Kingdom Heart. In fact, I hate this IP but since a lot of people wanted him he is a good choice to end smash. I got my most wanted (King Rool) in Ultimate after more than 10 years of wanting so its cool to know more people can experience this feeling.

That saying...I'm a bit salty about the trailer (not the character) cause I FREAKING BELIEVED WE WERE GETTING A DARK SOULS REP!!!

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

For Pheonix I'm confident for the next Smash Bros. Ace Attorney is making a slow but confident come back with the success of the trilogy.
 

Lazyrex

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That saying...I'm a bit salty about the trailer (not the character) cause I FREAKING BELIEVED WE WERE GETTING A DARK SOULS REP!!!

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Same! I don't know why they did it like that, it was so reminiscent of Dark souls down to the slow movement and the way the fire was animated!
 

Dan Quixote

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This is genuinely one of the only straight up disappointments I have with SSBU. Phoenix didn't need to be a fighter, but any sort of acknowledgement would have been good. The Ace Attorney series is such a Nintendo staple, going back 20 years and being exclusive to Nintendo until very recently. It was one of the most popular titles on the DS when they finally came over to the states, but it gets paid nothing in this big celebration. 😔 But oh well, there'll be another Smash down the line, and Capcom seems like they're willing to throw a lot at this franchise. I think it's a matter of "when" and not "if" friends! For now I've at least got the GAA Chronicles to gush over.
 

Dorayaki

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I say not just Phoenix. but Capcom just didn't get any new series rep in the whole Smash 5 round.
I don't mean they need to get one, but I'm curious why Square can just add so many on the other side when Capcom, which has a giant load of great franchises, got none.

For Phoenix specifically, I think his actual crisis is the absence from the latest Capcom VS title. I say he really needs to ensure a recurring seat in Capcom allstars to ensure that Nintendo will also recruit him.
 
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amageish

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Happy anniversary Ace Attorney (well, it is in Australia and Japan)! There's new art to celebrate but it's zoomed out since they wanna sell it, not sure when we'll get a better look at both.

Very nice art, though obviously it'd be more exciting to see better images of them... I do like how the TGAA includes the cats hanging around - it's funny to see them there without Natsume himself.
 

Ny0kazer

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There's a website up, too :D

 

Strider_Bond00J

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Hard to believe Ace Attorney as a series is now 20 years old. By the way just passing by since I know these sides of the boards are closing down soon, so I thought I'd just pop by for a brief reflection. (Also that twitter comic is now my personal headcanon - Phoenix Wright was the one who helped Sora through all the legal difficulties to get into Smash Bros.)

As much as Phoenix is my number one most wanted character for Smash and how amazing it would've been to have him be the final character, I've been using this word a lot to describe Sora, but there really is something magical about him being the final character and THE most wanted fighter from the Ballot. So if I had to trade my most wanted characters like Phoenix, Kiryu and Doomguy at the very end just to have Sora take me by complete surprise and amazement, then I would be satisfied with that outcome. Of course that means Phoenix's wrights chances of being in Smash Ultimate are gone forever now, but maybe in a future game. If there ever is a future Smash game.

That said, I still love Ace Attorney to this day and once I clear more games in my backlog, I am definitely booting up The Great Ace Attorney. I never thought those games would ever get localised, but here we are with Herlock Sholmes (which is an amazing translation gag in and of itself).
So here's to the future of Ace Attorney!
 
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