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TAKE THAT! Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney smashes the prosecution!

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I just finished the third case from TGAA2 and wow, this was an emotional rollercoaster – definitely my favourite case out of Chronicles so far, it felt like a final case. Can't wait to play the last two cases!
 
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The only confirmed ancestor is Naruhodo for Phoenix, and while the game itself does contain a few hints at other lineages and a few references, it doesn't outright state anything except for one cheeky reference involving Kazuma's sword. I'm pretty sure this is intentional - one thing that the character designer actually says in the notes in the Gallery section is that the characters have all lived full lives, so even if something isn't stated in the game they're happy for fans to let their imaginations run wild.
 
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well im still early on but so far this version of holmes feels rather uninspired. though i put that down to holmes being done so often there isnt a version of him that would feel original cause nearly every version has been done before.

 
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Bobthealligator

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fogbadge said:
well im still early on but so far this version of holmes feels rather uninspired. though i put that down to holmes being done so often there isnt a version of him that would feel original cause nearly every version has been done before.

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Really? You think so?
I found this version of Sherlock to be the best I've seen for a long time, giving him actual flaws so that he needs help to piece his deductions together is a genius solution to the Holmes Problem (when the writers attempt to write a character smarter then they are, which is also part of my problem with Simon). Most adaptations have him make deductions that he couldn't possibly have known unless he was somehow omniscient.
 
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Bobthealligator said:
Really? You think so?
I found this version of Sherlock to be the best I've seen for a long time, giving him actual flaws so that he needs help to piece his deductions together is a genius solution to the Holmes Problem (when the writers attempt to write a character smarter then they are, which is also part of my problem with Simon). Most adaptations have him make deductions that he couldn't possibly have known unless he was somehow omniscient.
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ive seen a lot of the idiot holmes in things, people never get tired of throwing shade at him. i dunno maybe its hard to take him seriously when what ive seen so far hes just a more flamboyant gumshoe but with out the constant kicking him when hes down. having ryu help him solve his deductions came across as wanting to make their own character smarter than the famous one which of course is bound to happen in any mystery game where holmes is not the main character, after all what is the point in a mystery game if an ncp solves it for you. at the moment it feels like it could have been any famous detective and have had about the same effect
 
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fogbadge said:
ive seen a lot of the idiot holmes in things, people never get tired of throwing shade at him. i dunno maybe its hard to take him seriously when what ive seen so far hes just a more flamboyant gumshoe but with out the constant kicking him when hes down. having ryu help him solve his deductions came across as wanting to make their own character smarter than the famous one which of course is bound to happen in any mystery game where holmes is not the main character, after all what is the point in a mystery game if an ncp solves it for you. at the moment it feels like it could have been any famous detective and have had about the same effect
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He's not an idiot though, he's still a genius, just one who tends to get stuck in his own head. Ryunosuke doesn't need to correct him that often really, it just feels like it's more often than it is because the game makes a bigger deal out of it, what with the Dance of Deduction and all.
 
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Bobthealligator said:
He's not an idiot though, he's still a genius, just one who tends to get stuck in his own head. Ryunosuke doesn't need to correct him that often really, it just feels like it's more often than it is because the game makes a bigger deal out of it, what with the Dance of Deduction and all.
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well now that ive finished episode 2 ill admit hes grown on me

 
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The way you can click on npc's in the background and talk to them instead of the screen only having 1 or 2 NPC's at a time kinda reminds me of how investigattions are done in Layton, without the puzzles.
 
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fogbadge said:
well now that ive finished episode 2 ill admit hes grown on me

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Ohhh, that makes a lot more sense, sorry.

From what I've heard case 2 is pretty polarizing but I liked it.
Case 4 on the other hand? I have thoughts about this one that I imagine I'll post when I finally finish it.
 
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Man all these stuck up English people who don’t trust people who are foreign really lends a sense of authenticity to this version of Britain :4pacman:



that might be one of those jokes that only works if you’re Scottish, Irish or Welsh
 
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I just finished TGAAC and I enjoyed it a lot! While I consider GAA1 one of the weakest entries in the series, GAA2 is one of the best. I love how Resolve answered all open questions from the first game and how much better the pacing was. My favourite chronicles case is GAA2-3, which is the only case that moved me to tears + it has so many characters I really like.
 
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I find it odd that the jury is supposed to be citizens selected at random, yet some of them are people Ryu has already met.
 
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I find it odd that the jury is supposed to be citizens selected at random, yet some of them are people Ryu has already met.
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it’s probably for the running gag of bemusement when he sees someone he recognises

or they used up all the game space on over the top animations
 
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Hadokeyblade said:
I find it odd that the jury is supposed to be citizens selected at random, yet some of them are people Ryu has already met.
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They kind of explain it in the concept art section. Basically the Jury for the first case they appear in ended up a lot more fleshed out than they were originally intended to be to the point where they were basically indistinguishable from the witnesses. So they decided to reuse characters for the Jury for later cases on account of the increased workload the artist gave himself.
 
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