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Good point, not to mention that everyone thought Tekken was out completely due to that Mii costume, yet here we are. It doesn't seem to follow any sort of consistent ruleset anymore, at least when compared to the releases in the first pass.
For the record, I thought Heihachi was out in addition to reasons unrelated to the Mii costume: Pac-taunt cameo, his latest voice actor being dead shortly after doing
and yet to have a replacement, Tekken 7's DLC support still ongoing, the works. nonetheless. Makes me think if Sak will think of anyone else he overlooked for those reasons if he's called back for the next major Nintendo console. Besides, EVERYONE in the Mishima family is a protagonist, iirc, so things are still relatively in the rules.
Resident Evil spirit event as well
Oh right, I forgot about that. Still, it's very eyebrow raising
...Pretty sure it's not. It's not even close to being. Hell it even debuted on play station so... If anything people sure seem to constantly mistake Ace Attorney for a Nintendo exclusive or even first party Nintendo series. Neither of them is a nintendo exclusive but Ace Attorney is much, much more close to being one
I'm getting the impression that Nintendo decided to scramble the costumes around a bit during FP2 to reduce predictability. After all, costumes (even if they release at the same date) are a separate thing from the character packs, it doesn't really matter what company owns the rights to them and whether or not they have anything to do with the actual character. In other words, these are all costumes that would have been released anyway (some with a related character, some with an unrelated character) but they have been swapped around a bit, only leaving a small amount of them actually with their "originally meant" relevant characters
Yeah, if any Capcom I'd consider Phoenix and Chun-Li the most possible. I love Amaterasu but I just don't see her as a big Nintendo-related icon or fan demand enough to pull a Banjo situation and Capcom doesn't seem interested in continuing her series. Morrigan...wouldn't be able to be herself fully.
If I recall correctly, some insider report had claimed that she was going to be planned for the base game, but that was dropped for unknown reasons.
There was an old rumor sure, that said her and Lloyd were considered or something, but that's not really it. She's just a huge gaming icon. And follows Ryu to every crossover like Marvel vs Capcom, Tatsunoko vs Capcom, Teppen, Project x Zone, Fortnite, Power Rangers, she ain't just another Street Fighter, she's just one of the most recognizable video game characters in the world.
I think most in the Dante support thread would tell you it makes no sense to have Vergil before him (or Nero for that matter). I know you could say there's some precedent with Pyra/Mythra, but Dante is the face of the entire franchise, to have the antagonist of 2 games before him would be eyebrow raising, to sat the least.
I think it's pretty much that Chun Li could be argued is one of the most recognizable female figures in videogames, and Street Fighter is still a larger property than, say, Devil May Cry or Ace Attorney. Much as I'd personally hate the idea, it's not that unlikely of a possibility imo (although it makes you wonder why other iconic SF like Bison don't get the same traction).
The main issue with Chun Li though is content based. Street Fighter in the base game is still very well represented in both characters and music tracks.
I was clearly talking about Rise and Chronicles
Pretty much. Unless they do a push for SFV (which is incidentally having its unknown final pass character announcement by September), there isn't much else they can do for it this run.
Yeah, our current Street Fighter content is mostly kept to SF2 besides some stuff like Juri's spirit, so Chun-Li couuuld bring some newer songs and characters but it's not like she's the face of "newer" or "modern" Street Fighter or anything so it's kinda awkward. She feels way more like a base roster character so I'd expect her if we got a definitive edition but now just doesn't seem like the right time.
I doubt a new Pokemon from Generation 8 is happening because of the spirit event that occurred late in the first fighter pass. Going by what happened with Byleth, if they wanted a Gen 8 Pokemon, they would've saved those spirits.
I dunno, I think it's strange it's taken this long but imagine us in this exact situation but they never did that spirit event or celebrated Sword & Shield's launch with a little event tourney. That'd be so weird and suspicious. Staying hush on the launch and saving them for later, I dunnooo... Sure, at the time I agreed it deconfirmed them for Pass 1, but since then...that thing was forever ago! Ending Ultimate with just that and no Gen 8 music or anything else seems so...awkward! It sold well, but maybe they figure all the Pokemon in the game already advertise it fine enough? An excuse that seems silly but I can imagine is like "Well we wanted to have a free update with Gen 8 Pokeball Pokemon but the limited DLC team doesn't do that so we skipped Gen 8 altogether" or something. I could even see a stage or a bundle of music as a little bonus, moving on finishing Ultimate with just a few images of Gen 8 Pokemon despite it being, yknow, Pokemon, and two of the best selling games on the switch, ahhh...I guess it's possible, but wow, awkward.
The Pokemon Company is very strict about DLC. And they only did the DLC for Sword and Shield because they didn't want to make special editions/sequels to them. That, and the fact that none of the characters in the pass have had more than English and or Japanese voice actors and crowd cheers really makes a Pokemon unlikely considering how the names and voices can vary quite wildly
If I were to hazard a guess it's because Chun li is arguably the most iconic female gaming character of all time, and she's in almost as many crossovers as Ryu. She suspiciously didn't get the assist trophy spot for SF2, either. With Sephiroth in, we very clearly can get additional unique fighters from 3rd party franchises.
Ah yeah, I forgot about the translated cheer thing, Pokemons is one of the few series that might change names in languages like french, Spanish, deustche, etc. So that might be a hint to their absence.
Isn't 3 months a pretty standard timeframe for smash reveals? Him saying it will be awhile is making me think closer to Nov/Dec (even though September would be better for us with TGS close by).
3 months is still a while. Not even Steve took that long to get revealed and released after Min Min, and Steve was by far the most complex character of the DLC cycle.
I have a similar idea of who it could be. However, this pass is clearly a "second chance" pass and Pokémon doesn't fit this thematic. I would also put Geno out since he has been costumed during this pass. Last, I don't feel Master Chief at all, even if Microsoft seems to be willing to participate, they already had two characters, and I think he would have been added sooner in this pass if he was in.
Ryu isn't the last big retro character missing. Even with Arthur getting his costume, Contra exists. Nintendo loves promoting Contra too. Big, big mainstay for the NES and SNES era.
I wouldn't say Crash is totally impossible yet. Sure, he'd make sense as an E3 reveal, but we all know Nintendo often doesn't make the obvious decision. Maybe they'd think Crash is a big enough deal to be better served generating hype without E3. Personally, my ideal end to this pass is Crash, followed by Phoenix objecting to that being the last fighter and being the rumored bonus character. Of course me getting that is about as likely as winnning the lottery, but I can hope.
Indeed, it's important to remember that not only are there tons of other companies out there (like Ubisoft - back in the picture with Kazuya showing that the Rabbid and Altair Miis aren't deconfirms) but also Nintendo could easily swoop in. Octoling is someone I would say one should keep an eye on, and Ayumi Tachibana may have a chance, too. There's also promotional third parties that are already part of Smash, such as Sega wanting to promote Shin Megami Tensei V. Phoenix is in no way a given, but it would be nice if we got some AA content before the end of Ultimate.
The glitch that lots of people are connecting with Reimu that involves projectiles going through any character's head without damaging them is also still around. Apparently it's not related to Kazuya since this glitch may point to a new mechanic, whereas Kazuya's crouch dash just gives him invulnerability on his upper body.
