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Too much down votes.Because if I'm one voting him up, he needs one more, or else I woudn't botherHuh?
I've seen plenty of toon link mains and they place well. He has potential. we rated him highly at the ste start of the game, but all of the sudden he's disappeared. He's a great character that lives long and kills a lot quicker than most characters. he's a good character. Nice combos, but not enough people play him at tournaments. Also, his dair spike is REALLY GOOD.
(Don't see why he should be down voted, Paragon showed us more than one example of Ryu being great at high level play in the right hands) (Dabuz is the clear best at this character and even he needs a secondary to cover bad match ups. I don't see her on the same level as the other three.)
Alright then, I'll specify.
On the note about Fox...aren't you not supposed to vote based on what other people are voting? I ain't stopping you, just saying.If I am able to vote, than
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I bet Acestarthe3rd could do her wonders.-
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Call bias if you want, but I think DK is a solid high tier now with the ding dong combo, which works nicely with all of his other moves, since they condition people to shield through them, allowing you to bait shield to get a grab. As for results, look to DKWill to see what DK can do in tournaments. Dude's placed in top 8 at least twice recently with him.
Side-b into up air is almost always guaranteed, barring some characters at 0% (although I just might not be fast enough). It all depends on speed at the higher percentages as I have been able to connect it above 200%. His throws do not combo at all and his grab is probably one of the worst in the game (if I remember correctly, about 1 pixel extra in length with significantly higher endlag, but I do not remember where I saw the 1 pixel part). Side-b will eventually combo into up-b for guaranteed KO's and he can pull off Sheik style Fairs and carry them to the side blast zone.+1
The character suffers from some problems; a lack of real combo throws is something I know that hinders him. Other than that though, I think he deserves to be a little higher. Despite not getting combos off of throws, his aerials flow nicely into followups, and the clown car hit at around 90% can confirm into a fair I think (possibly an uair, any Jr. mains will probably correct me if so). He hasn't been doing bad in tournies either, Tweek managed to get joint 25th in EVO 2015 with him, although he's the only one putting Jr. on the map, so until more people get results for him, I wouldn't put him too high. Still deserves to be a little higher though.
Sadly that honorable distinction goes to Pacman. Especially since his biggest contender (Wii Fit) got a grab buff. While both Bowser Jr. and Pacmans grabs start on the same frames, Pacmans grab lasts for 28 frames total... but isn't 28 STRAIGHT frames. The grab is broken into 3 parts going from frame 12-14, 22-24, and 32-39. This means that even though the grabbox is out for 14 frames, its is possible for someone to interrupt it at 2 different 7 frame intervals. Not to mention that Pacman has the most endlag for a non tether grab at frame 76, a whole 27 frames after the grab ends. Only Samus has a "worse" grab in terms of endlag, and even her dash grab ends before any of Pacmans
What's wrong with Pika?-
only esam[/quote]most underrated FE. The only one pros are seriously picking up[/quote]
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+1 Seeing all these down votes are kinda making me worry. People will soon realize that his drawbacks aren't THAT bad. He can still hold is own very well. -1: I'm starting to think Villager is overrated, at least in America. He's good at zoning, but once you get past that he is pretty easy to take out. +1 Having used Lucas in Brawl and Smash 4 I see him as one of the most combo heavy characters, and he even has kill set ups/throws. He is good at zoning, has a good recovery, and can fight head on pretty well.
What? Villager does far worse in America than in Japan (where he's considered top 5)
Well then, what's wrong with ESAM? I, personally, think he's an awesome player.
He's not bad enough to be bottom tier I'm no fanboy, but I think Roy's better than that He's gotten a few buffs, he's deserves to be on a higher tier
I'm saying that Villager is rated pretty high for a character that doesn't have much results here in America.
I thought you could vote each round. Is that not the rule?
+1 Big D got into winners with him. Something no one else on his tier did. +1 Metal can actually get consistent kills from like, 50% almost everywhere on almost everyone? You tell him if he should be upvoted or not... -1 Luigi gets less and less threatening every time I see him.
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-1 I will keep voting her down until she drops =/ Absolutely no reason she should be "better" than the likes of Tink, Falco and ... +1 He's gotten some nice buffs and after playing against him at a local last weekend, I can see an argument for him going higher. -1 I've been feeling it for a while, and before this last update, he was around where I think he should've been. But now he rose 2 tiers? Uh uh. Needs to drop one at least.
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The more I play and see her the more I'm convinced she's bottom five. Frame data doesn't matter if you can't do anything with it. To counter the downvote swarm. Literally has more tournament wins than any other character, and the top Luigis like ConCon tend to sit in their regions. +1 +1 +1
( ) Due to the common misconception that he deserves to go down. srrsly.lol Litertatly only so that there isn't a -10Little Higher Not THIS bad, and Zelda - Samus is my dream bottom tier (And my opinion)
+1 Most people see him as the worst characters in the game, but he holds up against most of the cast pretty well, outside of the top tiers. +1 I think Pit could be a little higher. Pit kinda reminds me of Mario in a sense. He is pretty balanced, and doesn't blatantly lose against other characters. -1 People respect Ness WAAAY to much. Once people begin to abuse his bad habits, he'll drop down extremely quick.
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