Social Swamp's Social Thread 3 - And now, the end is near, and so I face the final curtain...

[Curious Villager]

So.......is Poke Sun/Moon definitly for 3DS? I don't remember seeing them say that just that it's coming holiday 2016.

I think they did, thinking it over.

Eitherway, I kinda hope it's not New 3DS exclusive, since I only have the regular 3DS XL..... ^^;

 

[Substitution]

So I heard about the new Pokemon game.
Eh... I may wait on it for the time being (unless something happens that I need to play).

I just wonder why ther are called Sun and Moon
Black and White had a plot that revolved around dualities and opposing ideas and opinions
X and Y because of the X and Y axis...
But no Z...
I doubt they'll focus on the day and night cycle because there's not much you can do with it that hasn't been done already

The same reason R/B/Y/G are colors, and the same reason for all the mineral-themed games.
Because it worked.

 

[Solfiner]

There is no reason for Sun and Moon to be on anything other than the 3DS.

They already have all the 3DS assets they need and releasing it on something else would make them lose a bunch of sales.

 

[Coricus]

I thought they flat-out said Sun and Moon were going to be on 3DS.

They didn't?

 

[ChikoLad]

I watched the Direct.

I actually really liked the presentation aspect, got me super nostalgic for the old days of Pokémon (inb4 "GENWUNNER").

But yeah you know they're being hush hush and dry on info when they're like "WOW YOU CAN PLAY IN CHINESE NOW, OVERCOME LANGUAGE BARRIERS BECAUSE THAT'S TOTALLY THE POINT OF POKÉMON", haha.

Also Wolfie557 , they did confirm it's for 3DS. You couldn't really miss it, they said it pretty clearly.

 

[Wolfie557]

Does that mean N will finally release the 3DS under the actual 3DS name in China instead of that stupid iQue thing...

I watched the Direct.

I actually really liked the presentation aspect, got me super nostalgic for the old days of Pokémon (inb4 "GENWUNNER").

But yeah you know they're being hush hush and dry on info when they're like "WOW YOU CAN PLAY IN CHINESE NOW, OVERCOME LANGUAGE BARRIERS BECAUSE THAT'S TOTALLY THE POINT OF POKÉMON", haha.

Also Wolfie557 , they did confirm it's for 3DS. You couldn't really miss it, they said it pretty clearly.

I was distracted by chicken.
Thanks.

Guess my 3DS collection will be rounded off by Pokemon...about time I tried non-spinoff games.

 

[ChikoLad]

Does that mean N will finally release the 3DS under the actual 3DS name in China instead of that stupid iQue thing...

That depends on whether or not Chinese laws on gaming systems have changed.

I haven't been keeping up with that stuff lately.

 

[Deleted member]

I think this game has the potential to really tie all the regions together.

Earth revolves around the Sun. Moon revolves around Earth. Basically reinforce the "whole world" idea.

Rainbow (Niji) could be a reference to bringing all the games together (as most are based on colors).

It'd be a great way to celebrate the 20th anniversary.

Having all regions will **** up the level curve
HGSS has a terrible level curve and that's only two regions
Having 7 of them won't make things easier
An "all regions" game simply can't work
Also

as most are based on colors).

Colors: Red, Blue, Green, Yellow, Black and White
Not colors: Gold, Silver, Crystal, Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald, Diamond, Pearl, Platinum, X and Y

So I heard about the new Pokemon game.
Eh... I may wait on it for the time being (unless something happens that I need to play).



The same reason R/B/Y/G are colors, and the same reason for all the mineral-themed games.
Because it worked.

RBYG are like thst because they're primary colors and they were the first games of the franchise. They also match with the four main elemental types
GS were supposed to be the last ones
Ruby and Sapphire give the feeling they're a "better" Red and Blue
No idea on DPPt

 

[Wolfie557]

RBYG are like thst because they're primary colors

Green is a secondary colour. You make it by mixing B & Y. Have you not learned anything from Pokemon Art Academy?

 

[Deleted member]

Green is a secondary colour. You make it by mixing B & Y. Have you not learned anything from Pokemon Art Academy?

This why green stayed in Japan
Let's just say they're rainbow colors

 

[Wolfie557]

Nintendo's TP HD retrospective Episode 2 is up!

It's great Aounuma just dreamed up the basics of the game LMAO.

That's a whole other level of genius right there.

 

[Opossum]

Green is a secondary colour. You make it by mixing B & Y. Have you not learned anything from Pokemon Art Academy?

Green's a primary with HEX and things like that, though even then it's Red, Blue, Green, with yellow being secondary with cyan and magenta, so either way it was incorrect.

 

[Wario Bros.]

I did see the direct live while I was still at work (I hid while I was on my break).

But compared to Generation VI reveal, Gen VII reveal was pretty disappointing (even if the logos weren't leaked yesterday). If it actually had a new Pokémon in it (that wasn't a wireframe render), it would've been a different reaction.

And Gen I VC can connect to Pokémon Bank? Didn't expect that but that's really cool.

 

[ChikoLad]

Having all regions will **** up the level curve
HGSS has a terrible level curve and that's only two regions
Having 7 of them won't make things easier
An "all regions" game simply can't work
Also

Colors: Red, Blue, Green, Yellow, Black and White
Not colors: Gold, Silver, Crystal, Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald, Diamond, Pearl, Platinum, X and Y

RBYG are like thst because they're primary colors and they were the first games of the franchise. They also match with the four main elemental types
GS were supposed to be the last ones
Ruby and Sapphire give the feeling they're a "better" Red and Blue
No idea on DPPt

Uuuuuh, a lot of the ones you listed there are colours, actually.

http://www.color-hex.com/color/ffd700

Just an example, I won't go through all of them, since this should be common sense.

I mean Rosalina's hair colour is platinum blonde. :V

 

[Deleted member]

Uuuuuh, a lot of the ones you listed there are colours, actually.

http://www.color-hex.com/color/ffd700

Just an example, I won't go through all of them, since this should be common sense.

I mean Rosalina's hair colour is platinum blonde. :V

Gold, Silver and Platinum are named after the metals
I know they can be colors but they're not being used like that in Pokemon

 

[Con0rrrr]

Would like to make it clear that this leak is still not disconfirmed!

Spoiler: Language Warning

censor dodge

 

[A Distant Demon]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=196550852&postcount=702
Forgot to post this yesterday.

"Codename Caviar" may be pokemon rumble

 

[Opossum]

Gold, Silver and Platinum are named after the metals
I know they can be colors but they're not being used like that in Pokemon

I'd beg to differ on Gold and Silver, considering they factor heavily into Lugia and Ho-Oh's color schemes, as they're the box legends. Same with RSE with Groudon, Kyogre, and Rayquaza. And Pearl, with Palkia being white and pink.

They're pretty obviously referencing the colors. Really the only odd ones out are Diamond and Crystal, which don't really have a "color" to them.

 

[SuperMii3D]

Would like to make it clear that this leak is still not disconfirmed!

This person is claiming that Sun and Moon is a Fire Red rom hack, which it clearly isnt.

I hope you were being sarcastic.

 

[ChikoLad]

Gold, Silver and Platinum are named after the metals
I know they can be colors but they're not being used like that in Pokemon

It doesn't really matter, they still can be worked into the concept of colours anyway.

How they used them almost 20 years ago doesn't factor into how they might use the names today. Hindsight is something they can take advantage of.

 

[Deleted member]

I'd beg to differ on Gold and Silver, considering they factor heavily into Lugia and Ho-Oh's color schemes, as they're the box legends. Same with RSE with Groudon, Kyogre, and Rayquaza. And Pearl, with Palkia being white and pink.

They're pretty obviously referencing the colors. Really the only odd ones out are Diamond and Crystal, which don't really have a "color" to them.

Heart Gold and Soul Silver can't be talking about the colors though
Silver is considered a pure metal and something golden is considered holy

 

[Wario Bros.]

For those who are questioning about Missingno. being transferrable to Pokémon Bank: It ain't happening.

In order for a Pokémon to be tradable/transferable to a different title, the Pokémon's data must already exist in the targeted title. Missingno.'s data doesn't exist at all outside of Green/Red/Blue/Yellow, so stuff like X/Y/OmegaRuby/AlphaSapphire can't correctly read Missingno.'s data (same goes for other glitch Pokémon).

It's the exact same reason why you couldn't trade Gen II Pokémon from Gold/Silver/Crystal to Green/Red/Blue/Yellow as well as forms that debuted in later titles in the same generation (like Sky Shaymin in Gen IV).

In fact here's what I believe will be banned in Pokémon Bank for the Virtual Console release:

• Glitch Pokémon & moves
• Legit Pokémon with a moveset or stats impossible to get without glitching
• Pokémon at levels 0 and 101-255

 

[Opossum]

Heart Gold and Soul Silver can't be talking about the colors though
Silver is considered a pure metal and something golden is considered holy

But they're also colors. That's the thing.

 

[Con0rrrr]

Knew that Censor Dodge was coming. Worth it for that gem.

 

[A Distant Demon]

Knew that Censor Dodge was coming. Worth it for that gem.

You could have just linked it like you did yesterday and not gotten a warning.

 

[Firus]

Having all regions will **** up the level curve
HGSS has a terrible level curve and that's only two regions
Having 7 of them won't make things easier
An "all regions" game simply can't work

In fairness, most of the reason HGSS's level curve sucks (at least from my perspective) is because the wild Pokemon's levels don't scale up at all and are drastically lower than you need for the Pokemon you're training to fight against.

Having a good balance within seven regions given the current system is probably impossible, but I don't think HGSS is proof of that. I think it was just poorly executed.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Guys...RBY being Bank compatible is huge for a single reason...Machamp gets Fissure in Gen I and it's ability is No Guard in Gen VI, a NORMAL ability mind you. And the ability capsule exists in case you get Guts instead. Dear Arceus, that's getting banned

 

[Aetheri]

Guys...RBY being Bank compatible is huge for a single reason...Machamp gets Fissure in Gen I and it's ability is No Guard in Gen VI, a NORMAL ability mind you. And the ability capsule exists in case you get Guts instead. Dear Arceus, that's getting banned

1HKO moves are usually banned anyways...

 

[Cutie Gwen]

1HKO moves are usually banned anyways...

Even in VGC? Doesn't matter, getting a second Machamp when I fix my damn system

 

[Firus]

Guys...RBY being Bank compatible is huge for a single reason...Machamp gets Fissure in Gen I and it's ability is No Guard in Gen VI, a NORMAL ability mind you. And the ability capsule exists in case you get Guts instead. Dear Arceus, that's getting banned

Yeah, @Arcanir mentioned this lol. Honestly this is pretty funny, though I'm wondering if OHKO moves have a mechanic implemented to ignore a situation like this. It is notable that Fissure's Bulbapedia page says this:

Fissure ignores all changes to accuracy and evasion stats.

So if No Guard counts as a "change to accuracy" then it may not do anything.

 

[FalKoopa]

Something just hit me. Could we see a return of Team Galactic? They fit in too well in the current title names - Mars, Saturn and Jupiter.

 

[Substitution]

Something just hit me. Could we see a return of Team Galactic? They fit in too well in the current title names - Mars, Saturn and Jupiter.

Maybe they could make a collaboration, but I'm sure it's going to be some new team (most likely based on Team Rocket).

 

[Champ Gold]

I wanna see an all out team war.

The resurrection of Team Rocket
The remnants of Aqua & Magma forge together a new team
Mars, Saturn and Jupiter revamps Galactic
Neo Plasma
And Neo Flare.

And you gotta stop each team from going all crazy


And then bring back the World Tournament setting

 

[Deleted member]

No Guard straight up ignores any accuracy check, this is why it hits Pokemon using fly or dig

 

[Aetheri]

I'd prefer a new team entirely....Team Eclipse is just too perfect....

 

[FalKoopa]

Maybe they could make a collaboration, but I'm sure it's going to be some new team (most likely based on Team Rocket).

That was wishful thinking, admittedly. Still, it would cool to see them return. Or any team except Rocket, really.

 

[A Distant Demon]

Something just hit me. Could we see a return of Team Galactic? They fit in too well in the current title names - Mars, Saturn and Jupiter.

Team Rocket blasts off to meet team galactic

Duh
My money is on unfortunate coincidence

 

[Z25]

So after seeing how they talked up Sun and Moon, all I could think of was that this image captures it perfectly:

Spoiler: big image and minor Gravity Falls spoilers(?)

I need to get better at Gimp...

I think they did, thinking it over.

Eitherway, I kinda hope it's not New 3DS exclusive, since I only have the regular 3DS XL..... ^^;

It will most likely stay on the 3ds to avoid loss of sales, however exclusive features on the N3ds isn't impossible.

For those who are questioning about Missingno. being transferrable to Pokémon Bank: It ain't happening.

In order for a Pokémon to be tradable/transferable to a different title, the Pokémon's data must already exist in the targeted title. Missingno.'s data doesn't exist at all outside of Green/Red/Blue/Yellow, so stuff like X/Y/OmegaRuby/AlphaSapphire can't correctly read Missingno.'s data (same goes for other glitch Pokémon).

It's the exact same reason why you couldn't trade Gen II Pokémon from Gold/Silver/Crystal to Green/Red/Blue/Yellow as well as forms that debuted in later titles in the same generation (like Sky Shaymin in Gen IV).

In fact here's what I believe will be banned in Pokémon Bank for the Virtual Console release:

• Glitch Pokémon & moves
• Legit Pokémon with a moveset or stats impossible to get without glitching
• Pokémon at levels 0 and 101-255

I know, but I can hope missingno could become canon one day...

Something just hit me. Could we see a return of Team Galactic? They fit in too well in the current title names - Mars, Saturn and Jupiter.

It's possible, but I feel like if anything, we could see Cyrus.

After all he disappeared into the distortion world, so maybe he found a portal that lead him to this new region?

Also what if The World Tournament returns?

Every one you fight in BW's is in this, in addition to:

All the proffessors, all the protagonists, zinnia, wally, all evil team leaders, all partners from the games(I.E. riley, cheryl, etc), Dianthia, Emma, and new characters in this.

Thoughts?

And I'm writing up stuff on Sun and Moon, I have a lot of notes to share!

 

[Schnee117]

RvB going back to the classics

Let's get this season started #RvB14 pic.twitter.com/F1292x7Ppj

— Kyle Taylor (@KyleTaylor416) February 26, 2016

A good way to calm down after the insanity of the past few seasons.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Honestly, the fact they've been working on this game for a while makes me hopeful, as we DID get a break from Pokemon, BW2 to ORAS were yearly releases