Social Swamp's Social Thread 3 - And now, the end is near, and so I face the final curtain...

[aldelaro5]

I think Mario would get a Paper Mario game idk why not much predicted that for the mario thing

 

[Wario Bros.]

If you have a Wii U, play Kung Fu Panda: Showdown of Legendary Legends.

If not, play Digimon Rumble Arena 2.
Or else play TMNT: Smash-Up. PTE copies the formula more closely, but it's arguably less playable than Smash-Up.

Oh, I have a Wii U.

As for Kung-Panda, I'm waiting for the game to drop to $20 on eShop (like all Little Orbit published games have done in the past). And I already own both TMNT & PTE so I know what to expect.

And I don't own Deejeemanz Rumble Arena 2.

 

[Burruni]

Don't forget a refined physics engine with better level design to accommodate it.

I mean.
I feel like a lot of the issues with the physics was glitchiness.
But yeah.
That would be amazing.

 

[SegaNintendoUbisoft]

I don't even know what terms to even use at times.
I want a version of the game with updated graphics, maybe some better side content, Chao Gardens & Racings that have some online capability, and that raw glitchiness fixed.

And the Knuckles - Rouge Radar fixed for SA2.

This alone would sell me.

 

[A Distant Demon]

Best smash clone is project M

>people dont like Uprising's gameplay

You have saddened me.

 

[Z25]

Best smash clone is project M

>people dont like Uprising's gameplay

You have saddened me.

I love uprising's single and multiplayer gameplay. It was pretty solid imo.

I really hope they make a sequel eventually.

 

[Burruni]

Y'know what.
I am just gonna ask this via strawpoll.

http://strawpoll.me/6435246

 

[Wario Bros.]

Y'know what.
I am just gonna ask this via strawpoll.

http://strawpoll.me/6435246

That reminds me, why is Silver so popular (ignoring the "EETZ KNOW YUUS!" meme)?

All I can ever see him as that guy who first appeared in a game that could've easily killed the Sonic the Hedgehog series.

 

[A Distant Demon]

Y'know what.
I am just gonna ask this via strawpoll.

http://strawpoll.me/6435246

>im the only person who voted for tails out of 6

Dang nintenzone 2 for 2 in dissapointing me

 

[MainJPW]

I mean.
I feel like a lot of the issues with the physics was glitchiness.
But yeah.
That would be amazing.

Yeah, reason I bring that up is because Sonic Adventure originally sported physics akin to the classics as evidenced by the design of the old Windy Valley and the test stages which had a ton of tests for rolling physics.

Also it's interesting that you bring up the glitchiness as being the cause of physics issues because glitches are most likely what caused them to change courses in the development of the engine and scrap the classic feel in favor of what's in the final game, fixing that engine and adding back the old rolling mechanics would be a step up for an Adventure remake and 3d Sonic games in general.

 

[ChikoLad]

That reminds me, why is Silver so popular (ignoring the "EETZ KNOW YUUS!" meme)?

All I can ever see him as that guy who first appeared in a game that could've easily killed the Sonic the Hedgehog series.

IIRC he had one of the best character arcs in the Archie comics according to a lot of people.

Also people find him cute since he tries to be a badass but he's actually really naive and silly.

And floaty psychic powers and his head looks like something you'd smoke.

 

[SegaNintendoUbisoft]

Y'know what.
I am just gonna ask this via strawpoll.

http://strawpoll.me/6435246

Dr.Eggman, but Tails is a very close second.

 

[MainJPW]

That reminds me, why is Silver so popular (ignoring the "EETZ KNOW YUUS!" meme)?

All I can ever see him as that guy who first appeared in a game that could've easily killed the Sonic the Hedgehog series.

Because the character has potential. The psychic powers would make for a great game on its own if done right.

 

[Burruni]

That reminds me, why is Silver so popular (ignoring the "EETZ KNOW YUUS!" meme)?

All I can ever see him as that guy who first appeared in a game that could've easily killed the Sonic the Hedgehog series.

1) Psychic powers are cool.

2) Archie did him better justice than 06.

3) I didn't even think he was that popular. Moreso than, say, Big, Cream, or Sticks... but Blaze always seemed to overshadow him of the duo. Edit: And certainly behind most of the "major" characters

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

There are certain rules we have to follow at work, and if a customers transaction is against those rules we have to reject it.

Well, all the customer has to do is complain to a supervisor and they override it

It has happened like that so often a customer asked me when I bother rejecting it in the first place

Yeah, why do I bother?

 

[Burruni]

There are certain rules we have to follow at work, and if a customers transaction is against those rules we have to reject it.

Well, all the customer has to do is complain to a supervisor and they override it

It has happened like that so often a customer asked me when I bother rejecting it in the first place

Yeah, why do I bother?

Because 90% of people won't bother.

 

[ChikoLad]

1) Psychic powers are cool.

2) Archie did him better justice than 06.

3) I didn't even think he was that popular. Moreso than, say, Big, Cream, or Sticks... but Blaze always seemed to overshadow him of the duo. Edit: And certainly behind most of the "major" characters

He was popular enough for fan demand to be the reason he is still around, like with Shadow.

He was supposed to just be in '06 and Rivals and that was to be it for him aside from maybe the comics (while I'm not a big fan of the comics, they definitely at least use the cast more liberally than the games). But people wanted to see more of him.

 

[Bedoop]

Guess who got a Part-Time Job at Maccas?
And guess who's already sick and ****ing tired of "Regulars who wouldn't do no mean-spirited thing" (~Guy on Chicken Nugget Duties) trying to bargain the former human to lower the price because said human is the new guy?
ME~

 

[Z25]

Hey, anyone here good/know the basics for brawl hacking, and able to help me with something real quick?

 

[BluePikmin11]

I'm so intimidated by the gameplay mechanics and the menu of Xenoblade X.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I was reading an article on depression and one person said something interesting

"The same thing happens in a person who falls and breaks their arm. Pain floods their mind. Their perception of the world constricts, and they focus squarely on the agony at the expense of everything and everyone else"

"In your case, there is probably some stressor or depressor present in your life that is triggering your flight or fight response at all times"

When you get into this mode, it can even prevent you from being able to emphasize with others and get into this "selfish mood"

 

[Burruni]

I'm so intimidated by the gameplay mechanics and the menu of Xenoblade X.

Did you play the original?
Because it didn't change too much.
Skills along the bottom have a cooldown while your basic attacks are automatically handled. Try to focus on your positoning for the special effects of combat skills and know the good ol' one two of a stagger into a topple.

 

[Champ Gold]

I know this might seem random or off-topic but video game advertising is one of the biggest load of BS I've seen in years.

In other mediums of entertainment, it's pretty bad but there's some honesty in some of their stuff.

Video Game advertising (which is more from just commercials and trailers) is moreso on telling less about yout games and showing of pre-rendered stuff and more lies.


Plus what makes it so bad is that a lot of games could benefit from major advertising like what those big AAA games get. I still wish games like with Capcom with Dragon's Dogma, Sega with Yazuka series and Alien Isolation and especially Nintendo with Wonderful 101 and Codename Steam getting the levels of publicity Splatoon got.

It just benefits bigger titles than help lesser ones and I not asking for niche titles to get ads because they wouldn't do much but to atleast get the word out a lot more and get people interested

 

[Burruni]

So.
Results of the Sonic poll thing.

10 votes (71%) for Eggman.
3 votes (21%) for Tails
1 vote (7%) for Knuckles & Knuckles from K.N.U.C.K.L.E.S. (& Knuckles)

The people have spoken.

 

[Schnee117]

Alien Isolation

To be fair here that game was the next Alien game after the trainwreck that was Colonial Marines. People were going to be cautious as hell no matter what.

 

[BandanaWaddleDee]

So.
Results of the Sonic poll thing.

10 votes (71%) for Eggman.
3 votes (21%) for Tails
1 vote (7%) for Knuckles & Knuckles from K.N.U.C.K.L.E.S. (& Knuckles)

The people have spoken.

Add one for Shadow. I just chose that DAMN fourth Strawpoll option

 

[Shroob]

I'm so intimidated by the gameplay mechanics and the menu of Xenoblade X.

If you've ever played an MMO, you're set.

 

[Champ Gold]

To be fair here that game was the next Alien game after the trainwreck that was Colonial Marines. People were going to be cautious as hell no matter what.

I'm gonna put it as if Sonic games could still sell millions most cases right after 06 (Secret Rings was a year later and it sold tremendously for a Wii title) then so can Alien Isolation.

Although comparing Alien franchise to Sonic the Hedgehog is pretty stupid and insulting to the Alien fans.

Spoiler

Although a better comparison is Sonic and Star Wars considering both fanbases will buy any BS with that logo on there (see Battlefront)

 

[ChikoLad]

I'm gonna put it as if Sonic games could still sell millions most cases right after 06 (Secret Rings was a year later and it sold tremendously for a Wii title) then so can Alien Isolation.

Although comparing Alien franchise to Sonic the Hedgehog is pretty stupid and insulting to the Alien fans.

Spoiler

Although a better comparison is Sonic and Star Wars considering both fanbases will buy any BS with that logo on there (see Battlefront)

Sonic fans are not at all like that. They are mostly one of the more cynical fanbases.

I seriously don't know where this "all Sonic fans will buy anything Sonic" stereotype comes from. Especially considering just how hard that is to do from a financial standpoint.

It's 2016, it's literally more than 10 years too late to still be trying to use the Sonic fan base as the butt of every joke.

 

[Erureido]

So yesterday's Pokemon Z discussion was pretty interesting to say the least. From a talk about Zygarde in Smash, to the question of whether or not the Kalos Legends are actually rooted from Norse mythology, to a discussion about Diantha, I've gained several new topics that I'm interested in bringing forth to start discussions.

First question: If Xerneas, Yvetal, and Zygarde aren't truly based off Norse mythology despite the animals matching up (though their lore and nature aren't exactly the same), why did Gamefreak decide to pick a deer, an eagle, and a snake to be the Kalos legendary trio rather than going with something another trio of birds or dragons?

Likewise, it if's really a coincidence that Zygarde's forms match up with the Children of Loki, why did Gamefreak decide to have a dog, a snake, and a humanoid figure be each of Zygarde's forms rather than going with something like three different snake forms?

This large question has got me thinking today, and it's made me really curious to hear what are people's thoughts about it.

I'll bring the second question later.

 

[Bedoop]

why did Gamefreak decide to pick a deer, an eagle, and a snake to be the Kalos legendary trio rather than going with something another trio of birds or dragons?

Deer: Innocent Cinnamon Roll (Life)
Eagle: Bird of Prey (Death)
Snake: That ****** who sits in the shrub in the garden all day waiting for something to trigger it to make it attack you for no reason and then go back to having a casual time (Balance)

 

[Z25]

So yesterday's Pokemon Z discussion was pretty interesting to say the least. From a talk about Zygarde in Smash, to the question of whether or not the Kalos Legends are actually rooted from Norse mythology, to a discussion about Diantha, I've gained several new topics that I'm interested in bringing forth to start discussions.

First question: If Xerneas, Yvetal, and Zygarde aren't truly based off Norse mythology despite the animals matching up (though their lore and nature aren't exactly the same), why did Gamefreak decide to pick a deer, an eagle, and a snake to be the Kalos legendary trio rather than going with something another trio of birds or dragons?

Likewise, it if's really a coincidence that Zygarde's forms match up with the Children of Loki, why did Gamefreak decide to have a dog, a snake, and a humanoid figure be each of Zygarde's forms rather than going with something like three different snake forms?

This large question has got me thinking today, and it's made me really curious to hear what are people's thoughts about it.

I'll bring the second question later.

I still stand by the fact that that is complete inaccurate.
Imo there is no way they did not look to norse mythology for the XY trio. Especially since they do their research on these things when making legends and even some pokemon.

 

[Champ Gold]

Sonic fans are not at all like that. They are mostly one of the more cynical fanbases.

I seriously don't know where this "all Sonic fans will buy anything Sonic" stereotype comes from. Especially considering just how hard that is to do from a financial standpoint.

It's 2016, it's literally more than 10 years too late to still be trying to use the Sonic fan base as the butt of every joke.

When Sonic Storybook Series (both games) sell a million copies, Sonic Unleashed does as well and Sonic 4 Episode 1 too all each sell a million copies, when they are considered bad, why do people ignore that?


I'm a Sonic fan but it's an easy target because how overall bad looking the fanbase is. The one time they said enough was enough was with Sonic Boom but that was also due to being an exclusive to the struggling Wii U.

It seem that way because why does these supposedly bad games keep selling as well as they do?

 

[Shroob]

I'm pretty confident that the XYZ trio are based off Norse mythos. Zygarde is just too oddly suspiciously designed after Fenrir, Jormungandr, and Hel.

 

[Naoshi]

Sonic 4 Episode 2 sold worse than Episode 1 and they had to cancel the episodic series because it was not well received.

Sonic Boom also sold like crap, despite being on Nintendo systems. (and is considered the biggest bomb of the big entries)

I think Sonic 4 Ep 1 sold the way it did because they banked so much on the nostalgia. I'm sure many were left disappointed. Where did a lot of them go for the sequel?

Let's not pretend Sonic games are an easy sell. They've been on a decline for a long time. Sonic games sold wayyy better in the Gamecube days.

 

[Burruni]

When Sonic Storybook Series (both games) sell a million copies, Sonic Unleashed does as well and Sonic 4 Episode 1 too all each sell a million copies, when they are considered bad, why do people ignore that?


I'm a Sonic fan but it's an easy target because how overall bad looking the fanbase is. The one time they said enough was enough was with Sonic Boom but that was also due to being an exclusive to the struggling Wii U.

It seem that way because why does these supposedly bad games keep selling as well as they do?

Unleashed isn't bad.
It's a bit polarizing.
People getting frustrated with the length of Werehog stages as it scales intot he game but praising the day stages.
It was what people cited as Sonic actually on an upswing after the abysmal 06 to SR games.

 

[Naoshi]

I think Unleashed was a bad game, but at the same time sort of a good game in spots. I think the Day stages was good and I love the general atmosphere the game has. The game had a lot going for it.

But I think Werehog is such a horrible idea and really does not belong at all. I don't know what they were thinking with adding in such a long grueling and slow gameplay a good idea, Their justification "We want Sonic games to be long!" was dumb. I'd rather take a 2 hour Sonic game with tons of replay value over a Sonic game where I stop 1 hour in because the Werehog gameplay bores me.

Playing a high speed game and then forcing you to play super slow segments that takes 10x longer than the regular gameplay (and then in turn makes up 80% of the game time) is seriously bad design. Don't alienate your audience and if you want to go genre switching, at least make it feel consistent, not the polar opposite.


For the record, I thought the Werehog itself was repetitive and super dull at times. Too often had I thought to myself "When is this going to end?". And the combat felt kind of shallow and... egh. Fun for the first 5 minutes but then gets old.

 

[Khoru]

First question: If Xerneas, Yvetal, and Zygarde aren't truly based off Norse mythology despite the animals matching up (though their lore and nature aren't exactly the same), why did Gamefreak decide to pick a deer, an eagle, and a snake to be the Kalos legendary trio rather than going with something another trio of birds or dragons?

well first imo zygarde is most like a flatworm
you can particularly see this with its core form - it's like a planarian or something
in any case, the bit of norse mythology involving the eagle and the deer is really dang obscure
i mean yeah, gf/tpc have referenced myths and folklore in stuff before. there are like 30+ things from japanese myths, the musketeers, the weather trio, whatever
but all of those (even ziz) are relatively well-known parts of mythology
also i'd question where ratatoskr is. he's a pretty important part of the whole yggdrasil thing, especially compared to the random deer

Likewise, it if's really a coincidence that Zygarde's forms match up with the Children of Loki, why did Gamefreak decide to have a dog, a snake, and a humanoid figure be each of Zygarde's forms rather than going with something like three different snake forms?

cuz they look cool
the giant doesn't even really have much to do with hel
she's just kinda... this lady
no wings or tail or mitre

 

[Deleted member]

I spent the entire day in a place without internet connection
I feel like I needed it...
Because I finally got to finish EOIIU!
Well, the main game, anyway
I'm now doing the postgame
The pacing now feels much more free and none of the sidequests have been filler, all of them filled on something important
Lol I beat one of the superbosses by accident
I mean, I went super unprepared and most of my party members kept getting killed but I ended up slaying that dragon
HOLY **** THIS GUN IS SUPER STRONG, 433 ATTACK IS NOT NORMAL ON A TROUBADOUR
I still have to beat the Story final boss though but **** barrier bosses
And I finally got to the 6th stratum
I didn't go into it on my story file but seeing such a beautiful scenario like this makes for such a great contrast
>Opens door
>Thick fog ala Pokemon DPPt
****
>Radar is disabled
**** <-caps on
>FOE noticed you sound plays
**** **** **** ****
>Gets to next room
>Nothing
*relief sigh*
>Steps forward
>3 FOEs pop up out of nowhere
Are you ****ing kidding me?
>Next room
>Finds sword
>Stuck to the ground
>Takes it out
>Accidentally summons up a Golem
OH, COME ON!

Here's a thing to do.

Every series in Smash.... Predict what will happen to them in 2016.

Go.

Everyone but Mario, Zelda, Pokemon and FE dies
The end
Next Smash game is a reboot with only the main Mario characters, Zelda, all 721 Pokemon and every sworduser from FE(any other weapons are not allowed)

jarjars

Who hired George Lucas to make the XCX's NPCs?

So yesterday's Pokemon Z discussion was pretty interesting to say the least. From a talk about Zygarde in Smash, to the question of whether or not the Kalos Legends are actually rooted from Norse mythology, to a discussion about Diantha, I've gained several new topics that I'm interested in bringing forth to start discussions.

First question: If Xerneas, Yvetal, and Zygarde aren't truly based off Norse mythology despite the animals matching up (though their lore and nature aren't exactly the same), why did Gamefreak decide to pick a deer, an eagle, and a snake to be the Kalos legendary trio rather than going with something another trio of birds or dragons?

Likewise, it if's really a coincidence that Zygarde's forms match up with the Children of Loki, why did Gamefreak decide to have a dog, a snake, and a humanoid figure be each of Zygarde's forms rather than going with something like three different snake forms?

This large question has got me thinking today, and it's made me really curious to hear what are people's thoughts about it.

I'll bring the second question later.

Where did the "it's just a coincidence" thought even come from?
Like, that's just dumb, there's no way the Legendary Pokemon are just a coincidence
Why the hell would Doggo Zygarde exist otherwise?

 

[Shroob]

well first imo zygarde is most like a flatworm
you can particularly see this with its core form - it's like a planarian or something
in any case, the bit of norse mythology involving the eagle and the deer is really dang obscure
i mean yeah, gf/tpc have referenced myths and folklore in stuff before. there are like 30+ things from japanese myths, the musketeers, the weather trio, whatever
but all of those (even ziz) are relatively well-known parts of mythology
also i'd question where ratatoskr is. he's a pretty important part of the whole yggdrasil thing, especially compared to the random deer

Zygarde 100% though also has patches of blue on one side, and red on the other.

Mind you, in mythology, Hel is said to be half alive, and half dead, and what do you know. The Blue most likely represents Xerneas, the life Pokemon, and the red represents Yveltal, the death Pokemon. It's no coincidence that they chose these colors. It's not because they represent the colors of X and Y, but the Pokemon mascots of the previous 2 games.

Ergo, half alive, and half dead.

That, and all three just HAPPEN to be parallels to Loki's spawns of Fenrir(Doggy Zygarde), Jormungandr(Snake Zygarde), and Hel(Complete Zygarde), are just too coincidental.