Social Swamp's Social Thread 3 - And now, the end is near, and so I face the final curtain...

[PsychoIncarnate]

Maybe we can trade in Roy or Ike for something better then

 

[Deleted member]

Say what you will about Corrin, but it's nice to finally be able to play as a dragon in Smash, even if it isn't a certain purple space one.

 

[IceBreakerXY]

I'm still glad corrin made it in and he gives me even more reason to buy fates than i already did....But i would of rather seen Elma or Henry.Elma because XCX is awesome and Henry for the Wtf of it all.But corrin is the much better choice and i feel when this is all over everyone will probably end up buying him....like they did everytime they said they wont buy something because *insert character* didn't make it

 

[Frostwraith]

My only disappointment with the roster is the lack of Wolf, which honestly isn't unlike when Mewtwo was excluded in Brawl.

If I had to pick between the two of them, I'd choose Mewtwo.

 

[egaddmario]

By the time Smash 5 rolls around, i wouldn't be surprised if Wolf was in the base game/dlc, simply because of the backlash of him not being in 4- in the same way Mewtwo, and to a lesser extent Roy, were praised for returning.

 

[Deleted member]

Also, since we were all getting disappointed with Girren Lagann being brutally turned into a Pachinko machine, here is something to make you feel better

Yes, Gainax is involved

Corrin is a dragon with a chainsaw blade 10/10 would main

I'm now imagining Ridley using a chainsaw and I want art of it

 

[Godzillathewonderdog]

If they had just added Wolf instead of Roy and then went on to add Corrin there wouldn't have been as many complaints.

 

[Schnee117]

Also, since we were all getting disappointed with Girren Lagann being brutally turned into a Pachinko machine, here is something to make you feel better

Yes, Gainax is involved

*watches first 8 seconds*
Oh look it's Mother Brain and Ridley!

 

[Khoru]

Maybe we can trade in Roy or Ike for something better then

>ike leaving
haha no

 

[CyberHyperPhoenix]

If they had just added Wolf instead of Roy and then went on to add Corrin there wouldn't have been as many complaints.

But Roy is the cut Melee rep tho.

If Wolf was in, it would stand to reason that Roy would still be in.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Also, since we were all getting disappointed with Girren Lagann being brutally turned into a Pachinko machine, here is something to make you feel better

Yes, Gainax is involved

I'm now imagining Ridley using a chainsaw and I want art of it

*VROOM*
'LET'S MOIDER SOME PARENTS! AAAAAAUGH!'

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

>ike leaving
haha no

Meh, I don't see what's so special about Ike

 

[Chrono.]

I got into the idea of XCX/Elma in Smash way too late XD, ah well.

Aside from her, I would've liked to see Wolf back, but I like what we got more.

 

[Deleted member]

Meh, I don't see what's so special about Ike

His unique moveset, maybe?

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

His unique moveset, maybe?

Hit stuff with sword

 

[Schnee117]

Hit stuff with sword

Of course no-one's unique when you dumb stuff down.
Mario: Punch stuff and maybe throw a fireball
Ryu: Punch stuff and maybe throw a fireball

See?

 

[Deleted member]

Hit stuff with sword

I'm not even gonna bother anymore

 

[NintenZ]

NO, NOT OPTIMISM ON CORRIN!!!

This isn't how I actually feel, just thought of this while I was in the shower.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Of course no-one's unique when you dumb stuff down.
Mario: Punch stuff and maybe throw a fireball
Ryu: Punch stuff and maybe throw a fireball

See?

Ah but that's 2 special things for them as opposed to 1

 

[Deleted member]

Little Mac: punch stuff and maybe SD

 

[Z25]

Ike's to popular to cut and considering everyone was like " ike's totally gone this installment" ... well I think you know how this ends.

 

[A Distant Demon]

Ah but that's 2 special things for them as opposed to 1

Hit things with sword and make fiery explosions and fight for friends

there. . .happy?

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Hit stuff with sword

No other swordy uses Ike's brutish style, Cloud's a lot more swifter than Ike and his moves have more finesse. Not to mention Great Aether is one of the most memorable Final Smashes

 

[Khoru]

also ike is one of the only fire emblem characters to star in multiple games, alongside marth

 

[Curious Villager]

Other than Roy, there was Young Link and Pichu, (And, well.... but y'know.....)

Out of the three, Roy was probably the best choice in regards to a returning Melee veteran. Wolf's main competition was Lucas and the other Brawl vets seeing how Sakurai was specifically looking for a fan favourite Melee and Brawl veteran to bring back. (You could argue Mewtwo was enough but he was apparently in a league of his own....)

 

[Cutie Gwen]

By the way, wasn't Ike the most popular Fire Emblem character? Regardless if you enjoy the series or not, cutting the most popular character is like cutting Mario

 

[CyberHyperPhoenix]

Ah but that's 2 special things for them as opposed to 1

Hit stuff with a sword and maybe light people on fire.

Two things.

 

[Chrono.]

also ike is one of the only fire emblem characters to star in multiple games, alongside marth

Didn't Radiant Dawn have Micaiah, though?

I never played the game I just thought Ike wasn't the main guy for that one.

 

[Deleted member]

Ike is actually "Hit stuff really hard with a sword and maybe let them live so you can play with them some more"

 

[NintenZ]

The only three characters I feel are missing are these ones,

Spoiler

At least a Mii Costume would be nice.

 

[Godzillathewonderdog]

But Roy is the cut Melee rep tho.

If Wolf was in, it would stand to reason that Roy would still be in.

It's not like a "cut Melee rep" was something that they absolutely needed to include. Mewtwo is already a "cut Melee rep" anyway; even if they don't promote him as such it goes without saying that he was a character that was in Melee who is returning to the series.

 

[epicmartin7]

Wait? There's still salt about Corrin and Bayonetta?

Spoiler

HOW THE HECK DO YOU STILL HAVE SALT. LOOK AT THIS ROSTER.

LOOK AT THIS ****ING ROSTER AND TELL ME IF IS THE BEST ROSTER WE'VE EVER HAD. 58 CHARACTERS IS ENOUGH TO SUITE YOUR NEEDS AND IS EVEN BIGGER THAN THE BIG PURPLE SPACE DRAGON HIMSELF.
GOSH DAMN SON.

Spoiler

If your wondering, the huge text is for emphasis. I'm not even mad at all nor am I trying to insult anyone. Just thought it'd be cool by poking some fun at you guys and gals <3

 

[CyberHyperPhoenix]

It's not like a "cut Melee rep" was something that they absolutely needed to include. Mewtwo is already a "cut Melee rep" anyway; even if they don't promote him as such it goes without saying that he was a character that was in Melee who is returning to the series.

Sakurai specifically pointed out that Roy came back/ made his return from Melee as vet (like he did with Lucas), while Mewtwo was regarded as a fan favourite character, like he was a requested newcomer.

Basically Sakurai stuff.

 

[Kikkipoptart12]

Spoiler: Xeboblade X progress opinion

I'm the only one that think that some affinity missions should be a part of the story mode. It a little off putting to keep doing them so I can continue the story mode.

 

[Burruni]

Maybe we can trade in Roy or Ike for something better then

Uhm.
is the only Lord to get more than one game other than .
He's also one of the most popular of them. Top 3.

He isn't going anywhere.

 

[Khoru]

Didn't Radiant Dawn have Micaiah, though?

I never played the game I just thought Ike wasn't the main guy for that one.

there are like three or four cast herds that join up at various points
iirc ike's group has the most screen time

 

[ChikoLad]

But Roy is the cut Melee rep tho.

If Wolf was in, it would stand to reason that Roy would still be in.

I'm gonna play devil's advocate on this and say that I don't get Sakurai's logic of Roy being "THE cut Melee rep".

were both cut Melee reps too, and Sakurai did actually mention that he made Dr. Mario a fully fledged character rather than a costume because he knew some people liked how Dr. Mario was in Melee and he would be even more different this time since Mario uses FLUDD now. He said he also knew that the black colour alt was popular specifically due to it making Mario look like some black market dealer.

I actually don't personally care either way, I like playing as Roy a lot in this game though I otherwise have no attachment to him. But I don't get his logic of Roy specifically being the cut Melee rep when we actually got two others (one was also DLC, and one was specifically done as Melee fan service).

If it was me, I would have kept Dr. Mario an alt (and just included the black coat one too), and brought back Wolf. I know that's not realistic since Dr. Mario was a last minute thing, but you know, just to satisfy people who are obsessive over slots I guess. 2 cut Melee reps, 2 cut Brawl reps, as DLC. Would have made sense to me. Instead we have 3 cut Melee reps and 1 Brawl rep.

 

[Solfiner]

Spoiler: Xeboblade X progress opinion

I'm the only one that think that some affinity missions was a part of the story mode. It a little off putting to keep doing them so I can continue the story mode.

They give characters a bunch of character development, that's why you need to do them.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Uhm.
is the only Lord to get more than one game other than .
He's also one of the most popular of them. Top 3.

He isn't going anywhere.

Ike was outright first place in the most recent popularity poll, Buu-ey
If any FE characters would get cut, I expect one of the Marth clones tbh

 

[Frostwraith]

NO, NOT OPTIMISM ON CORRIN!!!

This isn't how I actually feel, just thought of this while I was in the shower.

Heaven forbid people having different opinions, right?

Also, as someone who wanted Wolf in the game, there's no way in hell I'm going to discredit effort and new, unique characters added to the roster. Brawl didn't have Mewtwo and that didn't make it a bad game, which was still full of new and creative characters.

Even more ideal would be having all veterans back, because why the hell not? However, you can't have everything you want.

Corrin is a questionable choice, but I think Sakurai's point to add him was clear: he does offer something no one else in the roster does. Whether you agree or not is an opinion.

By themselves, character additions aren't good or bad. People just perceive them as good or bad, according to their own tastes. Likewise, Sakurai has his own opinions in which characters are added to the roster. If it were someone else doing the roster, things would have turned out differently, though neither better nor worse.

Didn't Radiant Dawn have Micaiah, though?

I never played the game I just thought Ike wasn't the main guy for that one.

Radiant Dawn has multiple story parts. Ike is important later on, though Micaiah is focus for the first story arc.

Towards the end, both Micaiah and Ike are the central characters.