Social Swamp's Social Thread 3 - And now, the end is near, and so I face the final curtain...

[Deleted member]

Guys lets just give the rumor some rest.I want the damn character and i'm sick of hearing of it daily.Like if it happens it hapens if it doesnt it doesnt but lets ignore and focus on other choices....like shantae and quote

And Freddy Fazbear.

 

[Kenith]

No one cares about that stupid game so it doesn't count

You have some sort of strange obsession with hating Twilight Princess.
Whenever I brought up Midna, you told me how she was such an unimportant character.
Whenever Twilight Princess itself comes up, you always mention how it's garbage.

I'm excited about this game so don't ruin it for me.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

That...had nothing to do with my point though.

Care to explain you're point? I'm pretty tired right now

Nobody does not want a another World War... I dread to think what would happen if it did happen...

It practically is WWIII though, IS is fighting to convert the world to the way of Islam, right? I sure as hell don't want to convert to a religion in which women can be used as sex slaves. Most of the world is fighting IS, so wouldn't it count as WWIII?

 

[Jaedrik]

People are dying because of terrorism and you said 'more people die in their sleep than by terrorism' which makes you come off as an insensitive ******* who doesn't care about human lives. I hate the French but my mother's frightened by this because of her French relatives being in danger

Forgive me if I came off that way.
However, quibbling about tone is probably the least productive thing we can talk about. It'd be better if I had said things more charitably, probably take out the "just sayin', yo" part. I admit, I've failed already precisely because I didn't present my case in a more charitable way.
Again, I'll state that my overall interested is putting up a bulwark against responses by people to this attack that play off emotion instead of rationality, responses that'd inflame national / racist / whatever sentiment and pave the way for massive foreign interventionism, unjust wars, and so on. Things that'd take many more lives...

Pretty much what Anna has said here. You may not be able to anything but you shouldn't say things like this. Other issues don't matter, especially when world terrorism is a bigger issue.

Now that I've laid the above out, I challenge you with this: was it more the way I said it, or the content of the message? If it was the content itself, please directly refute that if you disagree. If it was the tone, I acknowledged my failure in that department already.

Terrorism IS a threat you dolt! Remember about 14 years ago on September 11th? Terrorism. December 6 in I believe London? Terrorism. This? Terrorism. It's a genuine threatening

There's no need for insults.
I remember those things well, and they are all grave tragedies. Never once did I say that terrorism wasn't a threat. Please don't mistake me.

Edit: I hope none of you are in doubt as to my intentions now.
Here's a link with the likelihood of things: http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013...-be-killed-by-a-toddler-than-a-terrorist.html

 

[Bananija]

Nobody does not want a another World War... I dread to think what would happen if it did happen...

What how horrible war as evolved, it would be catastrophic.

 

[Deleted member]

You have some sort of strange obsession with hating Twilight Princess.
Whenever I brought up Midna, you told me how she was such an unimportant character.
Whenever Twilight Princess itself comes up, you always mention how it's garbage.

I'm excited about this game so don't ruin it for me.

------joke------->

____you____

 

[Tree Gelbman]

Work work go away. Come again another day. But still give me the money. Kthnx bye.

 

[Dravidian]

To be fair, you can find a writer's opinion in newspapers. For instance '"The Dutch food isn't good, we're used to spicy food, we've only eaten bread for the last 6 months" says Jonathan as he eats a chocolate biscuit' was in De Telegraaf today, Oddly enough no remarks about how the refugees demand free televisions and are having a hunger strike for them

The only hunger strikes I've heard of were about refugees not eating until a country opened up their borders.

And I think the television issue stemmed from some places or people in power asking people not to donate "luxury goods" to refugees. I personally dont see why considering giving relatively small groups of 20-30 one or two donated televisions in order to help them keep up with the news is an issue. I'd like to think they won't murder each other is someone asks to change the channel...

But if they insists on not allowing people to donate televisions, then hopefully news papers are ok.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Forgive me if I came off that way.
However, quibbling about tone is probably the least productive thing we can talk about. It'd be better if I had said things more charitably, probably take out the "just sayin', yo" part. I admit, I've failed already precisely because I didn't present my case in a more charitable way.
Again, I'll state that my overall interested is putting up a bulwark against responses by people to this attack that play off emotion instead of rationality, responses that'd inflame national sentiment and pave the way for massive foreign interventionism, unjust wars, and so on. Things that'd take many more lives...
Now that I've laid the above out, I challenge you with this: was it more the way I said it, or the content of the message? If it was the content itself, please directly refute that if you disagree. If it was the tone, I acknowledged my failure in that department already.
There's no need for insults.
I remember those things well, and they are all grave tragedies. Never once did I say that terrorism wasn't a threat. Please don't mistake me.

The way you said made you sound like this
'Sure, THEY have problems, but what about me? This is more important'

 

[Kenith]

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____you____

Zoroark, how come whenever you insult something/someone and then get called out for it you say it was a joke?

 

[Opossum]

------joke------->

____you____

If that was a joke it wasn't very funny...

Care to explain you're point? I'm pretty tired right now

The fact that there's a major difference between a reporter quoting someone who gives their opinion and the author giving their own opinion in a piece that's meant to be objective.

 

[BlueX]

Care to explain you're point? I'm pretty tired right now

It practically is WWIII though, IS is fighting to convert the world to the way of Islam, right? I sure as hell don't want to convert to a religion in which women can be used as sex slaves. Most of the world is fighting IS, so wouldn't it count as WWIII?

I guess. I would not really know exactly to be completely honest.

The only thing i can truly say right now that what is happening right now is truly horrible. No body deserves this.

 

[A Distant Demon]

Let's uuuh. not turn this into religious hate mkay? no reason to let hate breed more hate.

update. He is now watching Stephen Colbert. ****ing savage

 

[Kingslime304]

Wow, I just came back to Smash boards after a few months (I think), and I find myself this. Must have been in at the wrong time.

 

[Kenith]

FYI, I actually have more faith in the Shovel Knight rumour after the Direct than I did going into it.
I think Cloud is a ballot character.

I also think that Banjo & Kazooie are very likely to be included.
I might also have lost my mind during the Direct.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

The only hunger strikes I've heard of were about refugees not eating until a country opened up their borders.

And I think the television issue stemmed from some places or people in power asking people not to donate "luxury goods" to refugees. I personally dont see why considering giving relatively small groups of 20-30 one or two donated televisions in order to help them keep up with the news is an issue. I'd like to think they won't murder each other is someone asks to change the channel...

But if they insists on not allowing people to donate televisions, then hopefully news papers are ok.

Nope. If anything, people are pissed at the Dutch government for giving out more money to help 'refugees' than the Dutch working people. The 'refugees' are complaining about our food not being the same as theirs and got beer parties and stuff cancelled because of their culture

If that was a joke it wasn't very funny...


The fact that there's a major difference between a reporter quoting someone who gives their opinion and the author giving their own opinion in a piece that's meant to be objective.

We misunderstood eachother lol. The opinion part was 'as he ate a chocolate biscuit' as that didn't need to be included in the article

I guess. I would not really know exactly to be completely honest.

The only thing i can truly say right now that what is happening right now is truly horrible. No body deserves this.

No one deserves this at all. All I can do is hope the IS gets defeated quickly, especially as Dutch Jihadis are allowed to stay here in the Netherlands because 'Syria is too unsafe for them'

 

[Jaedrik]

The way you said made you sound like this
'Sure, THEY have problems, but what about me? This is more important'

I fail to see how. I'd ask you to re-read and see if there's a hint of self-centered language in use. Please bring such language specifically to my attention so I can try to root that out of myself so I can be a more loving person.

 

[Poots]

There is a time and place for anything. All i'll say.


Speaking of places I just saw a dude watching porn in public. Like A cafeteria level of public. He isn't even facing a wall he is pretty much has the screen visible to everyone in the busiest hallway. It's a giant screen too.

Like damn guy. Calm down.

And here I am just waiting for someone to post about how they're watching some guy watch some other guy look at porn in public.

( I totally didn't mess that up the first time)

 

[Deleted member]

Zoroark, how come whenever you insult something/someone and then get called out for it you say it was a joke?

Because I'm being misunderstood
Most of my posts are not serious and I exaggerate things for the sake of the joke(like the TP hate)
When I'm completely serious it usually doesn't involve insults or swearing because, well, it's supposed to be serious
I'm sorry if I'm insulting anyone but that wasn't my intention

 

[A Distant Demon]

And here I am just waiting for someone to post about how they're watching some guy watch some other guy look at porn in public.

( I totally didn't mess that up the first time)

I wouldn't say im watching him because that's creepy. I just have to pass him to get to the food.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I fail to see how. I'd ask you to re-read and see if there's a hint of self-centered language in use. Please bring such language specifically to my attention so I can try to root that out of myself so I can be a more loving person.

It's because you brought up the government out of nowhere when the discussion was IS currently attacking, and implying it's more important

 

[Bananija]

Because I'm being misunderstood
Most of my posts are not serious and I exaggerate things for the sake of the joke(like the TP hate)
When I'm completely serious it usually doesn't involve insults or swearing because, well, it's supposed to be serious
I'm sorry if I'm insulting anyone but that wasn't my intention

I think that adding some indicative emoticon and sign would greatly help you.

 

[Dravidian]

If that was a joke it wasn't very funny...


The fact that there's a major difference between a reporter quoting someone who gives their opinion and the author giving their own opinion in a piece that's meant to be objective.

I've seen and heard plenty of reporters give personal opinions, but they just made sure to do it professionally and that people knew it was an opinion. That's the important part imo. I dont mind people/reporters having an opinion as long as the actual facts are given first.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Oni, your masturbating guy story reminds me of the man caught masturbating to a PS4

 

[Wintropy]

Cutie Gwen , the Tube bombing in London was 7 / 7.

Terrorism as a means of achieving an end is an interesting concept, and as somebody studying post-colonial theory and who lives in Ireland, I might have a very different perspective on it than others.

My condolences to the families affected by this horrific event. Nothing justifies that kind of systematic murder of innocents.

 

[Kenith]

Can I just say this past Thursday has significantly improved my quality of life by a **** ton?
I am suffering from severe depression and suddenly this Direct comes out of nowhere, brings Twilight Princess HD hype, amiibo hype, Smash Bros. hype, and Hyrule Warriors hype...

...And promises more of all of these things. It genuinely lit up my entire world, even if only for a few days/weeks.
But at the very least, I have three incredible things to look forward to - Smash Bros. DLC finale, Twilight Princess HD's changes, and whatever Wolf Link and Midna's amiibo functionality is for Zelda Wii U.

It's just great.

EDIT: Although the topic at hand is kinda bringing me down...

 

[Dravidian]

Nope. If anything, people are pissed at the Dutch government for giving out more money to help 'refugees' than the Dutch working people. The 'refugees' are complaining about our food not being the same as theirs and got beer parties and stuff cancelled because of their culture

Ah, the Dutch.
I was reading about a different area (I believe it was hungary or slovenia). The borders were closed and people were going on a hunger strike in order the persuade them to reopen their borders.

 

[Chrono.]

We need to make this a thing.

Also fun question everyone, if the Cloud trailer had leaked, who would here would have believed?

Depends.

If it were a rumor like Rogersbase's Inkling rumor (before we knew it was a Splatoon Direct anyway) or Tama's Shovel Knight, I would've at least given the benefit of the doubt (like I still kinda am, it's not over till it's over I guess).

That being said, despite my initial shock, I never thought Cloud was a weird or unlikely pick for a Square character. It's more of me going to the Direct expecting either SK or the Inklings or Wolf thanks to all our talks revolving them lol.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Ah, the Dutch.
I was reading about a different area (I believe it was hungary or slovenia). The borders were closed and people were going on a hunger strike in order the persuade them to reopen their borders.

If anything, there are no genuine refugees here, they wouldn't complain about food not being spicy enough but would go 'Oh, thank you for offering us free food!'

Jesus...They killed all the hostages...At least the poor souls can rest...What a horrible way to go

 

[Jaedrik]

It's because you brought up the government out of nowhere when the discussion was IS currently attacking, and implying it's more important

Again, I fail to see how that's self centered.
Please trust that I really do believe that foreign interventionism by the United States, the U.N., etc. makes the terrorist threat to the western world greater, destabilizes the middle east, and causes tragic death among civilian populations.
My interest is to try and stop the effect (on the people in this thread) of responses which demand further intervention in hopes of reducing the chances that such foreign interventions would happen.

 

[Kenith]

Depends.

If it were a rumor like Rogersbase's Inkling rumor or Tama's Shovel Knight, I would've at least given the benefit of the doubt (like I still kinda am, it's not over till it's over I guess).

That being said, despite my initial shock, I never thought Cloud was a weird or unlikely pick for a Square character. It's more of me going to the Direct expecting either SK or the Inklings or Wolf thanks to all our talks revolving them lol.

No kidding.
I had King K. Rool, Wolf, Inklings and Shovel Knight in the four compass directions of my bingo card, with "Sakurai surprises us" somewhere random.

****ing nailed it.

 

[Opossum]

I've seen and heard plenty of reporters give personal opinions, but they just made sure to do it professionally and that people knew it was an opinion. That's the important part imo. I dont mind people/reporters having an opinion as long as the actual facts are given first.

Unless it's an opinion piece, a review or something similar, the author or reporter's own opinion has no place in journalism. Delivering the news is about delivering the facts, nothing more.

We misunderstood eachother lol. The opinion part was 'as he ate a chocolate biscuit' as that didn't need to be included in the article

That's not an opinion though. If anything it just adds a human element to the piece. It doesn't detract from it or stop giving the facts. It's simply reporting what was going on while the interview was taken place. Nothing wrong with that.

 

[Deleted member]

FYI, I actually have more faith in the Shovel Knight rumour after the Direct than I did going into it.

I'm the opposite, really.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Again, I fail to see how that's self centered.
Please believe that I really do believe that foreign interventionism by the United States, the U.N., etc. makes the terrorist threat to the western world greater, destabilizes the middle east, and causes tragic death among civilian populations.
My interest is to try and stop the effect (on the people in this thread) of responses which demand further intervention in hopes of reducing the chances that such foreign interventions would happen.

It just comes across as rude and general asshole-ery saying terrorism isn't that bad while people, now dead, were held hostage

Unless it's an opinion piece, a review or something similar, the author or reporter's own opinion has no place in journalism. Delivering the news is about delivering the facts, nothing more.


That's not an opinion though. If anything it just adds a human element to the piece. It doesn't detract from it or stop giving the facts. It's simply reporting what was going on while the interview was taken place. Nothing wrong with that.

It's because I didn't include the entire quote, the immigrant said the Dutch food made them sick to the point they've only eaten bread while eating a Dutch branded biscuit

 

[Z25]

Forgive me if I came off that way.
However, quibbling about tone is probably the least productive thing we can talk about. It'd be better if I had said things more charitably, probably take out the "just sayin', yo" part. I admit, I've failed already precisely because I didn't present my case in a more charitable way.
Again, I'll state that my overall interested is putting up a bulwark against responses by people to this attack that play off emotion instead of rationality, responses that'd inflame national / racist / whatever sentiment and pave the way for massive foreign interventionism, unjust wars, and so on. Things that'd take many more lives...
Now that I've laid the above out, I challenge you with this: was it more the way I said it, or the content of the message? If it was the content itself, please directly refute that if you disagree. If it was the tone, I acknowledged my failure in that department already.
There's no need for insults.
I remember those things well, and they are all grave tragedies. Never once did I say that terrorism wasn't a threat. Please don't mistake me.

Edit: I hope none of you are in doubt as to my intentions now.
Here's a link with the likelihood of things: http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013...-be-killed-by-a-toddler-than-a-terrorist.html

Your wording was definitely bad in your first post, but you apologized. And while you are free to have your opinion on this, it still is a matter that people won't like having it just pushed aside. Yeah it may not concern them directly but it still affects them. Posting statistics( even if they are true) doesn't make this event an less important If the odds are against you and if a real terrorism based situation is put in front of you, clearly the tables will change and it would definitely be likely that you'd die. Which sadly people have here. Sure it may not be the up most important thing to you right now, but it is important to others. But we should get away from this subject now before it spirals out of control.

 

[Captain Shwampy]

Was this posted?
Someone ripped Clouds render out of the site

 

[A Distant Demon]

Can I just say this past Thursday has significantly improved my quality of life by a **** ton?
I am suffering from severe depression and suddenly this Direct comes out of nowhere, brings Twilight Princess HD hype, amiibo hype, Smash Bros. hype, and Hyrule Warriors hype...

...And promises more of all of these things. It genuinely lit up my entire world, even if only for a few days/weeks.
But at the very least, I have three incredible things to look forward to - Smash Bros. DLC finale, Twilight Princess HD's changes, and whatever Wolf Link and Midna's amiibo functionality is for Zelda Wii U.

It's just great.

EDIT: Although the topic at hand is kinda bringing me down...

Hey uhhh, if you need to talk there are people who will, including myself. My schedule is ass but a few people will tell you I can be there when people need me.

Was this posted?
Someone ripped Clouds render out of the site

Yes and that person is the owner of Smashboards
hence why we have

EDIT omg the file name has Warchamp in it haha

 

[Cutie Gwen]

140 people...I hope my mother doesn't know anyone there, she knew someone who got killed in the Charlie Hebdo incident...This is devastating...

 

[Dravidian]

Unless it's an opinion piece, a review or something similar, the author or reporter's own opinion has no place in journalism. Delivering the news is about delivering the facts, nothing more.

Hey, dude, that your opinion and I respect it.
I personally prefer the occasional ounce of humanity vs a stone faced cold hard fact person.
I have no issue with a reporter condemning a terrorist act instead of just reporting on it and counting how many people died. I just dont think fact and opinion have to be separated.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

Forget this post. Just saw news.