Social Swamp's Social Thread 3 - And now, the end is near, and so I face the final curtain...

[PsychoIncarnate]

Apparently it's got more accessories or whatever

 

[Coricus]

Dunno where you've been, most of the reveals made most people excited, even if it was a character they weren't super hyped for beforehand. Perhaps you're focusing too much on the DLC, which was more divisive than the typical reveal. But it was also optional so perspective would've gone a long way for some.

In any case I'm usually hyped by any character that isn't just a palette swap or costume change parading as a new character or one added solely for marketing reasons. I mean I could probably count the number of reveals I wasn't hyped about since Brawl on one hand~

Though the characters that would make me super duper ooper excited are

Every reveal except Mega Man had quite a bit of vocal whining and disappointment to it (even Little Mac, who was the only other really super SUPER commonly accepted newcomer to make it and still got complained about due to being too bland for many people's tastes. . .and apparently Japan had no idea who he was and kept calling him a gorilla), . . . but yeah DLC was a whole lot worse even than usual, and that's still freshest on my mind.

 

[SegaNintendoUbisoft]

I'm probably late to the party, but this is trending on facebook

Nintendo's new controller?

Can't wait to play horseshoe simulator.

 

[Oasis Dealer]

So I've been wondering something since yesterday, and I figure since Smash character selection discussion comes up whether we bring up hypothetical new games or not and is usually negative to an extent rather than positive, I may as well get it out.

Are there any characters that they could add to a hypothetical future Smash Bros that would make you actively hyped? Like, not just nodding about how they deserved the spot or something, but make you actually excited?

I feel like we focus so much on what we DON'T like that there isn't all that much discussion on what would have us on the edge of our seats squeeing like maniacs.

So how about it? Are there any characters that would make you super duper ooper excited to see them if they were added at some point?

Crash Bandicoot: Never happening, but being in a game with Sonic and Mario would have my childhood video game characters come together. Would absolutely main him without a doubt.

Snake: A veteran that I adore and would love to see make a return. Hopefully next time by a miracle.

Paper Mario: Love the series and think Paper Mario would be so much fun to play as. Also having music from across all the games would be amazing.

Rayman: Didn't start caring about until I saw that trophy in Smash 4. Then I remembered how much I loved Rayman 2 and the character in general as a kid. Would definitely be happy if he makes it in (Which I don't see being that far off).

Wonder Red: Underrated character that I would love to see. Also looks like a super sentai character, so I like the character even more.

Banjo-Kazooie: Not gonna lie, I would definitely get excited seeing these two making it in.

I also appreciate the people who want Crash Bandcoot. Makes me glad he has support as small as it may be.

 

[AreJay25]

Funny, I actually saw that controller earlier.

But I didn't post it because I didn't know what the hell was going on. I was a scared man.

 

[A Distant Demon]

Every reveal except Mega Man had quite a bit of vocal whining and disappointment to it (even Little Mac, who was the only other really super SUPER commonly accepted newcomer to make it and still got complained about due to being too bland for many people's tastes. . .and apparently Japan had no idea who he was and kept calling him a gorilla), . . . but yeah DLC was a whole lot worse even than usual, and that's still freshest on my mind.

I don't think you can call that "vocal"

The very few people complainign would be drowned out by the complete ruckus of everyone else being hyped. I think the only reveal I can remember that didn't have the vast majority excited was Greninja, but that was probably only because I was surrounded by Mewtwo fans

 

[Z25]

Anyone want this Retro City Rampage 3DS THEME, cause I dont.

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Thanks!
I like the themes and retro city rampage was an game I played a lot when a kid. Lots of fun! the theme is neat. Why didn't you want it, if you don't mind me asking?

 

[True Blue Warrior]

An example of this is when Yoshiaki Koizumi was trying to add Rosalina and some story elements into Super Mario Galaxy, and Miyamoto tried to prevent with his reasoning saying "nobody is actually actively asking for a second female character in Mario or more story elements, so we don't need it".

To think there was a posibility that an incredibly popular character like Rosalina wasn't going to happen.

Are there any characters that they could add to a hypothetical future Smash Bros that would make you actively hyped? Like, not just nodding about how they deserved the spot or something, but make you actually excited?

Wolf, Ice Climbers, Snake and Isaac.

Your avatar is making me physically uncomfortable. >_>

Indeed, no ifs or butts about it.

Every reveal except Mega Man had quite a bit of vocal whining and disappointment to it (even Little Mac, who was the only other really super SUPER commonly accepted newcomer to make it and still got complained about due to being too bland for many people's tastes. . .and apparently Japan had no idea who he was and kept calling him a gorilla), . . . but yeah DLC was a whole lot worse even than usual, and that's still freshest on my mind.

My biggest disappointment, besides no Wolf, was that we only got 1 Nintendo newcomer character as DLC.

I don't think you can call that "vocal"

The very few people complainign would be drowned out by the complete ruckus of everyone else being hyped. I think the only reveal I can remember that didn't have the vast majority excited was Greninja, but that was probably only because I was surrounded by Mewtwo fans

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Nintendo is trending all over Facebook today

Someone developed a wireless controller for the NES

"allows the use of PS3, PS4, Wii remote and Wii U Pro controllers"

Allows current game controllers to work on NES as well

 

[N3ON]

Every reveal except Mega Man had quite a bit of vocal whining and disappointment to it (even Little Mac, who was the only other really super SUPER commonly accepted newcomer to make it and still got complained about due to being too bland for many people's tastes. . .and apparently Japan had no idea who he was and kept calling him a gorilla), . . . but yeah DLC was a whole lot worse even than usual, and that's still freshest on my mind.

That's an awfully pessimistic view to take. Sure they all had detractors, pretty much every character will, but those are by and large the minority upon the actual reveal. Very much so for Little Mac, at least in the west. My recollection of reveals entailed a bunch of screaming and an influx of celebratory gifs and memes, as the internet does. Perhaps less so for the DLC, but those were also more unorthodox choices.

For what it's worth, as someone who has been kicking around the Smash scene in one sense or another since prior to the Brawl reveal trailer, the number of times I would classify a reveal as something of primarily negative reception are few and far between.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

That's an awfully pessimistic view to take. Sure they all had detractors, pretty much every character will, but those are by and large the minority upon the actual reveal. Very much so for Little Mac, at least in the west. My recollection of reveals entailed a bunch of screaming and an influx of celebratory gifs and memes, as the internet does. Perhaps less so for the DLC, but those were also more unorthodox choices.

For what it's worth, as someone who has been kicking around the Smash scene since prior to the Brawl reveal trailer, the number of times I would classify a reveal as something of primarily negative reception are few and far between.

In the initial roster of newcomers, the only character that got overall a negative reception (and still is unpopular among Smash fans) is Dark Pit.

 

[SuperMii3D]

Thanks!
I like the themes and retro city rampage was an game I played a lot when a kid. Lots of fun! the theme is neat. Why didn't you want it, if you don't mind me asking?

Because I dont plan on replacing my Smash theme, so anything else is pointless to me.

 

[Wario Bros.]

Nintendo is trending all over Facebook today

Someone developed a wireless controller for the NES

"allows the use of PS3, PS4, Wii remote and Wii U Pro controllers"

Allows current game controllers to work on NES as well

Don't really seeing that being too useful when you remember that the NES controller has only 4 buttons.

 

[N3ON]

In the initial roster of newcomers, the only character that got overall a negative reception (and still is unpopular among Smash fans) is Dark Pit.

WFT didn't have an entirely positive reception, neither did the Miis. I think Greninja's was more middling, but people eventually came around on those characters (usually relatively quickly) and for each one of those reveals there was also a bunch of other content announced to offset any potential disappointment. Pretty ingenious if done deliberately, really.

 

[Coricus]

Is that a controller or a magnet?

Neither. It's the Matter Manipulator from Starbound.

. . .OK no it's facing the wrong way for that, but that's what my mind jumped to.

I'm not sure this is going to be a standard remote after how the Wii and Wii U were received by hardcore fans, but I am curious as to what is up with it.

lol it looks like something used to improve grip strength~

. . .You know what? After some of Nintendo's interviews a couple years back, I'd believe it. They WERE wanting to get in on the health market. . .

Apparently it's got more accessories or whatever

. . .Wait, so it has gun and wheel attachments? So it's like, an all in one gimmick controller?

I don't think you can call that "vocal"

The very few people complainign would be drowned out by the complete ruckus of everyone else being hyped. I think the only reveal I can remember that didn't have the vast majority excited was Greninja, but that was probably only because I was surrounded by Mewtwo fans

That's an awfully pessimistic view to take. Sure they all had detractors, pretty much every character will, but those are by and large the minority upon the actual reveal. Very much so for Little Mac, at least in the west. My recollection of reveals entailed a bunch of screaming and an influx of celebratory gifs and memes, as the internet does. Perhaps less so for the DLC, but those were also more unorthodox choices.

For what it's worth, as someone who has been kicking around the Smash scene in one sense or another since prior to the Brawl reveal trailer, the number of times I would classify a reveal as something of primarily negative reception are few and far between.

True enough. I was probably just left under that impression because I spent all of pre-DLC on GameFAQs, where hatred is standard and liking things is being an apologist shill.

 

[ChikoLad]

Question for Street Fighter fans - is it normal to have so much trouble approaching and doing combos in SFIV?

It's not the inputs I have a problem with, it's that every attack I land seems to push me so far back I can't land another one. Can't seem to dash and then dash cancel either. Is there something I'm missing?

 

[N3ON]

True enough. I was probably just left under that impression because I spent all of pre-DLC on GameFAQs, where hatred is standard and liking things is being an apologist shill.

Sounds fun.

 

[A Distant Demon]

I don't think you can really call the ESRB leak a "reveal." After E3 many many people assumed he was an alt or something else (speculated as a boss after people found that HP indicator in that one vid for instance) so using everyone's unified rage over not getting who they want in the roster is kind of cheating. I mean even Duck Hunt got quite a substantial amount of flak.


Too bad Dark Pit had to become a scapegoat for crimes he didn't commit. At last most people got over it :/

I was probably just left under that impression because I spent all of pre-DLC on GameFAQs,

I'm sorry. You're in a better place now

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

WFT, Bayonetta, Dark Pit, and Lucina are the only characters I had a negative reaction to. 2 of which because of their clone status. Dark Pit being little more than a pit recolor (Yeah, I know in smash he acts differently, whatever)

I usually would have had a negative reaction to Bowser Jr, but the addition of the koopalings and how he acts in the koopa clown car were brilliantly done in a way I can accept the character - And actually use the character the most frequently.

 

[Coricus]

Sounds fun.

It actually can be when it crosses the line twice.

When it lands short of the mark or goes far enough to cross it a third time as it so often does, not so much, but every once in a while the rage got a bit popcorn worthy.

And sometimes they took a break from being mindlessly angry in order to spout memes.

Spoiler

Chrob



Chrob 2


Chrob 3


Chrob 64

 

[Kirby Dragons]

I don't think you can call that "vocal"

The very few people complainign would be drowned out by the complete ruckus of everyone else being hyped. I think the only reveal I can remember that didn't have the vast majority excited was Greninja, but that was probably only because I was surrounded by Mewtwo fans

"The vast majority" implies that most people like every single character to an extent, yet that will never happen.

have both had large amounts of salt that will always stick with them.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

Too bad Dark Pit had to become a scapegoat for crimes he didn't commit. At last most people got over it :/

People no longer bash Kid Icarus for being "overrepresented" because Fire Emblem is what all cool kids are bashing nowadays!

I wonder how many people wil accuse Sakurai of Xenoblade bias should it get a second character in Smash 5?

 

[Curious Villager]

I don't think you can really call the ESRB leak a "reveal." After E3 many many people assumed he was an alt or something else (speculated as a boss after people found that HP indicator in that one vid for instance) so using everyone's unified rage over not getting who they want in the roster is kind of cheating. I mean even Duck Hunt got quite a substantial amount of flak.


Too bad Dark Pit had to become a scapegoat for crimes he didn't commit. At last most people got over it :/

I'm sorry. You're in a better place now

I wonder if Duck Hunt would have been higher on the receiving end of being a scapegoat amongst the fans had Dark Pit (and Lucina and Dr.Mario) remained an alt like what was initially planned.

Kind of like the flak R.O.B. had to go through during Brawl.....

I don't remember much on Mr.Game & Watch in Melee but I'd imagine that he probably went through the same thing as Duck Hunt did thanks to the number of clones who where included in that game....

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I didn't have a negative reaction to Corrin, mostly because while I didn't exceptionally like or care about the character I expected them

 

[Swamp Sensei]

How does the humble bundle work?

 

[True Blue Warrior]

I wonder if Duck Hunt would have been higher on the receiving end of being a scapegoat amongst the fans had Dark Pit (and Lucina and Dr.Mario) remained an alt like what was initially planned.

Maybe. Maybe not. A good portion of Duck Hunt Dog's appeal is precisely that he is an infamous character that people finally have the chance to beat up.

 

[Burruni]

How does the humble bundle work?

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If you pay $1, you get the games that are listed under $1. If you pay $9, you get all the games under listed under the $9 category and that $1 category. If you pay $13 or more, then you get all the games listed.

 

[Radical Bones]

I wonder if Duck Hunt would have been higher on the receiving end of being a scapegoat amongst the fans had Dark Pit (and Lucina and Dr.Mario) remained an alt like what was initially planned.

Kind of like the flak R.O.B. had to go through during Brawl.....

I don't remember much on Mr.Game & Watch in Melee but I'd imagine that he probably went through the same thing as Duck Hunt did thanks to the number of clones who where included in that game....

I think a lot more people have fond memories of Duck Hunt compared to ROB and G&W.

Wii Fit Trainer would have been the main scapegoat, but seeing as she was revealed so early, no one cared anymore.

 

[Curious Villager]

Maybe. Maybe not. A good portion of Duck Hunt Dog's appeal is precisely that he is an infamous character that people finally have the chance to beat up.

I suppose that also by now, people would have probably expected Sakurai to include a surprise character as an unlockable in Smash 4 as has been the case since Melee/64.

Then again, I've seen people saying that Wii Fit Trainer was this games "Mr.Game & Watch" and "R.O.B." and did not expect any further surprises prior to us finding out about Duck Hunt so who knows I guess....

 

[N3ON]

I don't think you can really call the ESRB leak a "reveal." After E3 many many people assumed he was an alt or something else (speculated as a boss after people found that HP indicator in that one vid for instance) so using everyone's unified rage over not getting who they want in the roster is kind of cheating. I mean even Duck Hunt got quite a substantial amount of flak.


Too bad Dark Pit had to become a scapegoat for crimes he didn't commit. At last most people got over it :/

Tbh I think Dark Pit would've got a bunch of backlash no matter when he was revealed. Perhaps less so if not at the end, or before Palutena, but he's almost a direct clone in a series not starving for representation given the number of titles nor other newcomers who fits under a character trope some find creatively bankrupt who played a supporting role in a single game. Many would argue that type of character doesn't inherently belong on the roster.

I mean he wasn't the only reveal due to the ESRB leak but he sure got the most hate from it, whereas some in the same situation like Bowser Jr, Shulk or Doc barely got any.

 

[Coricus]

People no longer bash Kid Icarus for being "overrepresented" because Fire Emblem is what all cool kids are bashing nowadays!

I wonder how many people wil accuse Sakurai of Xenoblade bias should it get a second character in Smash 5?

The natural solution to this dilemma is, of course, to simply find a series people accuse of being snubbed and overload it with newcomers instead.

My typical thought experiment is, "What would happen if we got three DK newcomers at once. . .and one of them wasn't from Country?"

My natural choice for a third is of course Pauline, who was one of the most hated characters by far on the poll I drug up, easily the most hated Nintendo character with any chance of being implemented, and presumably relegated to such entirely because she's not a Country character and people aren't inspired enough to generate the mental image of her beating someone over the head with a ladder.

Hoooo boy if she was revealed. . .try calling Sakuraibias on that one, kids! (here's a hint: they would )

 

[A Distant Demon]

I wonder if Duck Hunt would have been higher on the receiving end of being a scapegoat amongst the fans had Dark Pit (and Lucina and Dr.Mario) remained an alt like what was initially planned.

Almost certainly. People would need something to blame for not getting their favorite character. (Ironically, this would have been more logical because Duck Hunt took more dev time lol) Going back and hating a character you didn't already doesn't make a whole ton of sense so it would pretty much just be Duck Hunt VS Shulk VS Bowser Jr for "most hated." Based on the fact DH actually got hate and the other 2 didn't get nearly as much it seems like Duck HUnt would be our resident Scapegoat for smash 4.

 

[_Silver_]

People no longer bash Kid Icarus for being "overrepresented" because Fire Emblem is what all cool kids are bashing nowadays!

I wonder how many people wil accuse Sakurai of Xenoblade bias should it get a second character in Smash 5?

*inb4 Elma*

 

[True Blue Warrior]

*inb4 Elma*

I'm pretty sure a new Xenoblade Chronicles game will happen before Smash 5 with a new main character.

 

[Schnee117]

I'm pretty sure a new Xenoblade Chronicles game will happen before Smash 5 with a new main character.

Spoiler

Unless the new Xenoblade follows up on that ending which it really should

 

[Burruni]

I'm pretty sure a new Xenoblade Chronicles game will happen before Smash 5 with a new main character.

Play through Xeno-X and I have a feeling that your opinion will change.

 

[N3ON]

There are other series that could use representation before a small niche one like Xenoblade gets another character before getting another game.

Being in Smash has given people a skewed view of its prominence.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

There are other series that could use representation before a small niche one like Xenoblade gets another character before getting another game.

Being in Smash has given people a skewed view of its prominence.

I think Shulk represents his series perfectly fine, even if Elma looks cool.

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

I'm calling it, Cheeksqueak will be the new "shoo-in" character once Yo-Kai Watch's popularity picks up in the future.

 

[Coricus]

There are other series that could use representation before a small niche one like Xenoblade gets another character before getting another game.

Being in Smash has given people a skewed view of its prominence.

*counts*

Splatoon. . .Golden Sun. . .Rhythm Heaven. . .Excitebike. . .

. . .Halp, I ran out of unrepresented first party series that have games that have broken 1 million units on the Wikipedia system sales lists (well, aside from Nintendogs and Brain Age, but COME ON, even WFT beats those for implementability). Can someone give me a better point of reference so I can continue?