Social Swamp's Social Thread 3 - And now, the end is near, and so I face the final curtain...

[esdssserdt]

I don't think Isabelle would be in a Smash NX port, in fact if any AT were to be promoted it'd likely be between her Ashley or Takamaru.

 

[DoodleDuck97]

Absolutely Beautiful. Can't wait for my game to arrive.

The music in this really blown me away.
Now to wait for a potential OST CD release.

This hurts me emotionally

Soon the mods shall let him return.

DoodleDuck97 : Wolf's incarnation below puts all the other ones to shame, at least for me.

Spoiler

At least he's actually wearing a scouter instead of an eye patch.

Both of his designs are pretty cool honestly, Even his assault look is awesome in it's own rights.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

Frankly Wolf from Assault and Command was a completely different character from 64's British moustache twirling villain. Or maybe the same character with 60 episodes of character development like every anime ever.

 

[epicmartin7]

Wait, were talking about a leak?

> 4chan leak

There's your problem folks.

 

[Burruni]

Y'know.
There's one question that Command raised inadvertently.

S before the $....
Does that mean that Lylat's Currency...

Is Star Bucks?

 

[epicmartin7]

Anyways, how's everyones' weekend so far? I don't really check here as much as I used to, so I'm trying to catch up just a little .

 

[esdssserdt]

So since this is a social... Is it okay for me to bring up my problems with the Powerpuff Girls reboot?

 

[N3ON]

I keep on wondering, why do people like the idea of a Super Smash Bros. for Wii U port so much? It just doesn't make any sense to me. I mean, each and every single Smash game has been unique in its own right and has been created with the console it was releasing on in mind. A port may end up ruining that tradition. One may say "B-but look at the sales! It needs more than 4.61 million units!", but just because Wii U did horribly in sales doesn't automatically mean they'll port the game (plus Splatoon and Super Mario Maker) over to NX. The game's name, GamePad-centric features and series release history make the idea of a port relatively impossible to me. If it turns out to be a thing, I'll probably just skip it and wait until an actual Smash Bros. game comes out for it.

In the case of Twilight Princess, it kind of made sense to port it over to Wii because GameCube's lifecycle was coming to an end. So I see why many people expect to see the Wii U Zelda game on the new system. However, Super Smash Bros. for Wii U was released during what I can consider to be middle of Wii U's lifecycle. Therefore, such a thing still doesn't make sense to me. While you're at it, why not re-release Mario Kart 8 instead of releasing a brand new Mario Kart, and give people even less of a reason to buy a Wii U while causing consumer confusion at the same time?

Meh, these are just my thoughts on the subject. That 4chan "leak" is as fake as with almost everything that comes from the site.

I don't care about sales or tradition, as my most played game atm I just want the title on the current system I'm going to be playing, which later this year will cease to be the Wii U and will shift to the NX. That's reason enough for me to buy the game again (though more content or consolidated content would certainly also be welcome - and would probably be the deciding factor for most people who already own the game). I'm only speaking on my behalf though, if it is a direct port (even with the DLC) I can understand the hesitation to embrace it from those who already own the game. That said I don't think Nintendo will release the port without some form of new (or at least consolidated) content.

As to why make it in the first place? Because Nintendo is hoping to entice people outside of the current Smash 4 audience, as the IP does have crossover appeal which endears it to gamers who might be convinced to purchase an NX who passed on the Wii U. It's big with the FGC, it's big with casuals, it's big with Nintendo fans and it's big with non-Nintendo fans. Moreover, it is a game a tremendous amount of work went into and won't likely see a sequel until several years into the NX's life. Plus, by adding even a scant amount of new content, they'll also entice many of the existing Smash 4 owners. In short, Smash is Nintendo's biggest net to throw out among all demographics, yet one that won't be ready to cast anew for a while yet. Releasing MK8 would cut into sales of MK9 considering that title is in all likelihood much closer to fruition than a future Smash.

Also Smash's gamepad-centric features are minimal, especially compared to the other ports rumoured to be otw. Its name is a minor obstacle, and series release history means little where profit is concerned.

I agree. The only two Smash Bros. games that have done very well in sales are Brawl and Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS. Either people just happen to believe Emily Rogers and Serkan Toto so much or they desperately want it to succeed even more when it has sold very well in its own right to begin with. For a Wii U game, 4.61 million+ is good. It may be the worst-selling Smash game, but it's slowly getting close to beating Smash 64.

I don't think it's because Nintendo is unhappy with Smash Wii U's sales, I think it's because they see room for more profit off the title.

Porting it to NX with all the DLC built-in sounds ridiculous. The idea makes it sound as if people didn't know how to navigate through the Wii U eShop and purchase content from there.

What sounds more ridiculous is porting the game to the NX and making people who pick it up buy the DLC all over again.

But that part wouldn't be for us. It'd be for those people that didn't pick up the DLC or the game or the system at all.

And if development has truly ceased for 3DS/Wii U, then a port with new content doesn't make sense. A new Smash game taking full advantage of NX's capabilities (and perhaps the 3DS successor as well, because the 3DS game's sales have proven the series can work on handhelds) would sound better, and I'd gladly wait for it to come out well after the system's launch.

As would I, but I'd also buy a port if one is available, as would many others, especially with slightly more content, hence why Nintendo is doing what they're likely doing.

Not to mention, I think adding new content as an incentive to buy the port would upset Wii U and 3DS owners. If it ever manages to become a thing, this port may very well be the NX's only Smash Bros. game and that'd be pretty underwhelming. Smash is just like Mario Kart-- there's only one game coming out for a system. In short, I believe a new game coming out for the system after launch sounds like a better idea than a silly excuse of a cash-grab that shouldn't exist when you can already buy a Wii U and / or 3DS and play it.

"Series tradition" only lasts so long until it doesn't. It's by no means a hard and steadfast rule. This will be the first console without an exclusive Zelda. Last gen we got our first direct sequel to a 3D Mario game. We also got 2 Pokemon gens on the same system. Now we're getting a new gen over the "third version". Unless NX bombs hard and Nintendo needs to rush it off the market, it's a safe bet that they're going to put out a new iteration of one of their most profitable IPs, it just likely won't be ready for a while.

And yeah it'll upset people, but most will get over it, and chances are it'll be a drop in the bucket compared to those willing to throw money at the ports.

 

[_Silver_]

Y'know.
There's one question that Command raised inadvertently.

S before the $....
Does that mean that Lylat's Currency...

Is Star Bucks?

Forgot to add 'insert "nice joke"' here.

 

[Burruni]

While those hands clap, those are the eyes of someone dead on the inside and that face is one that is bubbling with white hot rage just below the skin.

 

[A Distant Demon]

So since this is a social... Is it okay for me to bring up my problems with the Powerpuff Girls reboot?

Based on the fact we were just complaining about it a week ago. . . yeah probably

While those hands clap, those are the eyes of someone dead on the inside and that face is one that is bubbling with white hot rage just below the skin.

It's because he knows his tier list poition compared to melee/brawl

 

[DoodleDuck97]

While those hands clap, those are the eyes of someone dead on the inside and that face is one that is bubbling with white hot rage just below the skin.

He's mad about Nintendo turning him into a joke.

Spoiler

Never forget first print merth

 

[_Silver_]

Based on the fact we were just complaining about it a week ago. . . yeah probably

It's because he knows his tier list poition compared to melee/brawl

Marth is just considered decent in Sm4sh. But his buffs from 1.1.4 made him slightly better again.

 

[Burruni]

Marth is just considered decent in Sm4sh. But his buffs from 1.1.4 made him slightly better again.

Isn't he (or at least was) the character to recieve the most buffs across all patches, hell, I don't think he's ever gotten a nerf because he was that abysmal

 

[esdssserdt]

Based on the fact we were just complaining about it a week ago. . . yeah probably

It's because he knows his tier list poition compared to melee/brawl

First off the animation can range from okay to offensive, the art style is pug fugly, they got rid of Mrs. Bellum for whatever reason, none of the girls' original voices return, the voice direction sucks, there's pretty much no originality, the songs are so forgettable, and there's waaaaay too many references to outdated memes and bizarre pop-cultural references. (And worst of all twerking) Also one of the characters looks like the lovechild of Panda from We Bare Bears and Teddy from Persona 4.

 

[_Silver_]

Isn't he (or at least was) the character to recieve the most buffs across all patches, hell, I don't think he's ever gotten a nerf because he was that abysmal

Nope. The honor goes to Kirby. I think Sakurai is giving a little more love to his pink creation.

at least he didn't make him garbage like he was in Melee

 

[Z25]

I don't know if I should question why some people found this to be potentially real...

 

[Burruni]

Nope. The honor goes to Kirby. I think Sakurai is giving a little more love to his pink creation.

at least he didn't make him garbage like he was in Melee

But he still isn't the godly age.

I knew that Samus and Marth were some of the most buffed characters, didn't know a certain Poyo was there too.

 

[_Silver_]

But he still isn't the godly age.

I knew that Samus and Marth were some of the most buffed characters, didn't know a certain Poyo was there too.

Rasta in pasta 64 Kirby.

Brawl Kirby was average or mediocre. But he still wasn't as bad as the incarnation.

 

[Coricus]

I don't know if I should question why some people found this to be potentially real...
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Wh-

There's no way the game would even support the amount of models required for more than a select few pairs of two Pokemon to fuse, and I wouldn't even expect them to do that.

In particular there's no in-universe reason for an abomination on this level to contain one Legendary and a mishmash of normal Pokemon. Catching a Legendary is a sufficiently huge deal that no one could be reasonably expected to gather up just one and then just throw in a bunch of filler Pokemon for the rest. If you've got the Pokemon of antimatter, you're probably going to be going all out.

Plus the lineart of some of the official art they mashed into this doesn't match, the name given wouldn't even fit into the name bar-

People actually bought into this?!?

 

[Chandeelure]

The most buffed character is Mewtwo, he received less ending lag in all his aerials, more knockback and damage in some attacks, much better hitboxes, a lot of walking, air and running speed, and even more weight.
He received basically everything.

He went from bottom tier to high mid or even high tier in like 2 patches.

 

[epicmartin7]

Gotta love insurance.

 

[Burruni]

The most buffed character is Mewtwo, he received less ending lag in all his aerials, more knockback and damage in some attacks, much better hitboxes, a lot of walking, air and running speed, and even more weight.
He received basically everything.

He went from bottom tier to high mid or even high tier in like 2 patches.

...Maybe I should try him out again.

 

[Z25]

Wh-

There's no way the game would even support the amount of models required for more than a select few pairs of two Pokemon to fuse, and I wouldn't even expect them to do that.

In particular there's no in-universe reason for an abomination on this level to contain one Legendary and a mishmash of normal Pokemon. Catching a Legendary is a sufficiently huge deal that no one could be reasonably expected to gather up just one and then just throw in a bunch of filler Pokemon for the rest. If you've got the Pokemon of antimatter, you're probably going to be going all out.

Plus the lineart of some of the official art they mashed into this doesn't match, the name given wouldn't even fit into the name bar-

People actually bought into this?!?

Yes people thought that it could have been removed by pokemon and possibly legit. My favorite reasoning, was that if real this was just a fake made up one because they didn't want to reveal anything yet.
That said, 2 pokemon fusions could be neat.

 

[Burruni]

Yes people thought that it could have been removed by pokemon and possibly legit. My favorite reasoning, was that if real this was just a fake made up one because they didn't want to reveal anything yet.
That said, 2 pokemon fusions could be neat.

It's been 20 years...

 

[_Silver_]

^ lol venustoise

 

[Burruni]

^ lol venustoise

MEGA Venustoise.
Fraud detected

 

[AwesomeAussie27]

Speaking of people wanting more characters, some are starting to say Itsuki from Tokyo Mirage Sessions is likely for Smash NX.

I like that game as much as the next girl, but there's no bloody way Sakurai would add a character from a poor selling game with a huge hatedom.

 

[_Silver_]

MEGA Venustoise.
Fraud detected

...

Still just a turtle with 3 cannons and some botanical decor.

 

[A Distant Demon]

Fighting aboard the Ragnarok. Odin has procc'd in 4 out of 6 fights. lol

Gotta love a good old fashoned glitch/expoit. Ignoring the very obvious clipping to the point Squall's head was sticking out of Rinoa's face on the other side because he doesn't understand personal space still exists even in actual space, I now have some kind of alien flailing about in front of me unable to actually start a fight with me

Spoiler

Just imagine this guy spazzing between 3 positions like crazy as long as I don't move.

 

[Deleted member]

Speaking of people wanting more characters, some are starting to say Itsuki from Tokyo Mirage Sessions is likely for Smash NX.

I like that game as much as the next girl, but there's no bloody way Sakurai would add a character from a poor selling game with a huge hatedom.

I think the biggest problem is that she/he is from a spin off crossover

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

I don't think Isabelle would be in a Smash NX port, in fact if any AT were to be promoted it'd likely be between her Ashley or Takamaru.

Seems fair enough. The only way I see Izzy happening is if they take advantage of her currently popularity.

Takamaru however should depend on whenever he gets a new game and Ashley's just Ashley (unless they ignore Gane & Wario's sales).

 

[Chandeelure]

I love this.

 

[Coricus]

Speaking of people wanting more characters, some are starting to say Itsuki from Tokyo Mirage Sessions is likely for Smash NX.

I like that game as much as the next girl, but there's no bloody way Sakurai would add a character from a poor selling game with a huge hatedom.

Forget that, there's no way Sakurai's even adding a character solely from a spinoff, or at least not a character from one that hasn't proceeded to become VERY successful.

No, really. Look at the cast. Now look at the number of characters solely from spinoffs. See a pattern? That's the kind of stuff we keep for Assist Trophies or lock up in a dark little closet where no one can find them. Even poor Waluigi can't make the cut, and he's got more reason to be there than most characters people ask for anymore.

People are just so wound up in their Sakurai hate fantasies that they'll think of literally any way he could tick them off next, even if it defies all logic and reason. That and/or they're quick to add any character that pops up in a new game before they've even tried it. A lot of people seem pretty quick to go for love at first sight with support bases as well.


*EDIT*There's nothing wrong with liking the game, by the way. I haven't seen actual gameplay of it, but the only problem people seem to have is that it's not what they expected. That said, I can VERY easily see people predicting characters from it solely out of the expectation that Sakurai is out to get them.

 

[SegaNintendoUbisoft]

I love this.

From what I've heard so far, I'm really liking Star Fox Zero's soundtrack. I absolutely love the Star Wolf theme.

 

[wedl!!]

offtopic but I found the bayo 1+2 wii u combo for $35 at gamestop

it's worth like $65+

lmao

time to sell my og copies for that overwatch money, bye bad ps3 port

also: i got ds3 today for ps4, if anyone wants to play with me hmu. just be aware that I'm a scrub

Even though I'm 90 percent certain I'm getting hormones, I'm still worried. Especially with coming out to work

I can't blame you for your anxiety at all, telling someone you're a different gender is really hard. there's no telling how they'd react. :x

here in the US there are an increasing number of planned parenthood clinics that provide hrt for basically free, no extensive paperwork needed. wish there was one close to me. ;-;

for whatever reason this reminds me of how my mom has referred to trans women as lesbians. good thing I'm both.

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

Forget that, there's no way Sakurai's even adding a character solely from a spinoff, or at least not a character from one that hasn't proceeded to become VERY successful.

No, really. Look at the cast. Now look at the number of characters solely from spinoffs. See a pattern? That's the kind of stuff we keep for Assist Trophies or lock up in a dark little closet where no one can find them. Even poor Waluigi can't make the cut, and he's got more reason to be there than most characters people ask for anymore.

People are just so wound up in their Sakurai hate fantasies that they'll think of literally any way he could tick them off next, even if it defies all logic and reason. That and/or they're quick to add any character that pops up in a new game before they've even tried it. A lot of people seem pretty quick to go for love at first sight with support bases as well.


*EDIT*There's nothing wrong with liking the game, by the way. I haven't seen actual gameplay of it, but the only problem people seem to have is that it's not what they expected. That said, I can VERY easily see people predicting characters from it solely out of the expectation that Sakurai is out to get them.

Remember when Shovel Knight was likely for Smash?

I don't remember either. Just proving your point.

 

[epicmartin7]

Remember when Shovel Knight was likely for Smash?

I don't remember either. Just proving your point.

Well, in all seriousness, he is more likely than Ridley...

 

[AwesomeAussie27]

Well, in all seriousness, he is more likely than Ridley...

Unfortunately. We would even get a Federation Force soldier over him, whether every Metroid fan hates the game or not.

 

[Ura]

Speaking of people wanting more characters, some are starting to say Itsuki from Tokyo Mirage Sessions is likely for Smash NX.

You wanna give me a heart attack or something?