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Social Swamp's Social Thread 3 - And now, the end is near, and so I face the final curtain...

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Coricus

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If you thought Polygon was bad before well

My reaction to Polygon saying this can be summed up pretty accurately with a single GIF.



We have enough spiteful subjectivity flying around the internet without major journalism sites throwing childish gastric acid.

I mean. . .was that really necessary?

No. No it wasn't.
 

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Please tell me I'm not the only one who thinks it's hilarious someone says SFZ needs to be as huge as No Man's Sky, a game which will 90% fail to deliver.
Oh sure it's laughable and extremely immature.
If you looked at nothing else of the article.

It'd be like if I said "I hate Smashboards" without anything else attached to it. Well how else am I going to look at it?

Once again, it's not like the line isn't good by any means, but it's not as whiny as the lack of context makes it. I mean at least then you know the reasons why.
It's incredibly jarring for such an immature line being put in an article which is supposed to be taken seriously. Say you're watching a movie,tv show or cutscene, and the most emotional death scene in media you've seen is shown. But then **** like Green Greens is playing in the background during this. It doesn't matter how much buildup or emotion it had to that point, it's mood whiplash, and that's exactly what those lines are
IGN LOVES 2D platformers. It's why Sonic 4: Episode 1 got at one point higher scores than Generations and Colors and they really like the handheld games too.

They get clouded with nostalgia and bias.
My personal least favourite thing IGN did was give Kirby and the Rainbow Curse a low score due to difficult controls making the game too hard. The review footage showed the game being played horribly by someone who didn't seem to know what they were doing
 

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I actually was wrong earlier.

1. Mokuroh (Grass type Owl) - Moku means "Wood" in japanese. Kuroh is derived from the japanese word "Fukuro" which means "Owl"


This taken from one of the sites reporting on the trademarks. (When written in other kanji, it /can/ mean bag or sack, but the WAY it's writen in the name is owl. Just... ironic it phoenetically fits our word for a different bird).

Edit: In all honesty, it wouldn't quite be "shocking" if it was "engrishing" crow either, but if we take the name more at face value it's likely a grass owl and not a grass crow.
More fitting because of there being an actual species.
 
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The guy that did that "review" rant for SFZ is the same guy that docked points from Bayonetta 2 for her sexuality I've just found out.

IGN LOVES 2D platformers. It's why Sonic 4: Episode 1 got at one point higher scores than Generations and Colors and they really like the handheld games too.

They get clouded with nostalgia and bias.
Their film and TV reviews are worse.
TWD Season 6 review was lower than the average for every episode in the season. Might have been the Negan salt taking impact though. God that finale (and season in general) was awful.
Same guy that gave AoU an 8.6 rated CW lower despite saying in his CW review that it was better than AoU.
Plus they tend to gift out 8's and 9's to Star Wars Rebels like candy to kids. Yeah I enjoy the show but come on. Some of the episodes are noticeably weaker than others.
 

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Whoa whoa whoa
He gets Health Regeneration? That's amazing. Definitely getting him now. Sorry, Old Cap. :p

And yeah, I definitely agree. With the ones I have, there are some gripes. I don't get why Rapunzel and Captain Jack Sparrow can't air juggle when the generic versions of their weapons can (I know it has to do with their block breaker, but I mean...come on), why they didn't give Ralph a wall crawl ability when he climbs and wrecks buildings for a living, or why Woody didn't get a lasso move added as a force-pull type move.

Though some 1.0 characters can still hold their own pretty well. Rapunzel in particular, really. She's a tank. Health regeneration alongside a powerful, multi-hit, ranged frying pan attack? Awesome stuff. Jack Sparrow with an upgraded flintlock's also really good, while Ralph is really good against huge enemies like Tank Omnidroids where attack accuracy matters less. Sorcerer Mickey's also still pretty fun.
Let's also mention the fact that the Cars characters are a thing. If they tried to make them a combination of a character and a vehicle, I think it could've turned out well. They were definitely more cartoony in their films, and could've potentially had actual attacks with donuts, backflips, wheel grinding, etc. and each have a unique function (Mater's cable as a grapple? Spy weapons? Car tricks?) but nope, we got expensive power discs.

Still waiting for 1.0 characters to get Super Moves too. The biggest omission in my opinion.
 
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The guy that did that "review" rant for SFZ is the same guy that docked points from Bayonetta 2 for her sexuality I've just found out.



Their film and TV reviews are worse.
TWD Season 6 review was lower than the average for every episode in the season. Might have been the Negan salt taking impact though. God that finale (and season in general) was awful.
Same guy that gave AoU an 8.6 rated CW lower despite saying in his CW review that it was better than AoU.
Plus they tend to gift out 8's and 9's to Star Wars Rebels like candy to kids. Yeah I enjoy the show but come on. Some of the episodes are noticeably weaker than others.
You forgot the best one. Docking points for Hitman Absolution because the baddies didn't aim well
 

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You forgot the best one. Docking points for Hitman Absolution because the baddies didn't aim well
That was the film, Agent 47.
Yeah it's dumb but why call it out for that one film when it's been happening for ages and was made infamous with the Stormtroopers? I watched it and their aim was no worse than your regular antagonist's grunt.
 

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My personal least favourite thing IGN did was give Kirby and the Rainbow Curse a low score due to difficult controls making the game too hard. The review footage showed the game being played horribly by someone who didn't seem to know what they were doing
Reminds me of their Sonic Unleashed review.

The reviewer might as well have played with their feet.
 
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It's incredibly jarring for such an immature line being put in an article which is supposed to be taken seriously. Say you're watching a movie,tv show or cutscene, and the most emotional death scene in media you've seen is shown. But then **** like Green Greens is playing in the background during this. It doesn't matter how much buildup or emotion it had to that point, it's mood whiplash, and that's exactly what those lines are.
http://youtubedoubler.com/i8Dk

You're all welcome. :awesome:
 

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@Annuga That guy's comment specifically says "I'm not talking about a full generated universe". I completely agree with him. We do hold Nintendo to a different standard than other companies. "Boo, another Halo game, do something new!" "OOh, new Smash Bros OMG!!" "Boo, another COD!" "Yaaay, another Mario Kart!! With Pink Gold Peach!"

This is not an insult aimed at anyone, I'm including myself. But seriously, they could have done so much more with Starfox than to basically just remake it. Even if you could just have more choices in where you go, and upgrade your ship between missions, I think that would have attracted me more to it.

PS I don't want to start an argument, I just agreed with that ONE PART of what the guy was saying, and felt that you were reading his intention very differently than I was. :)
 
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Good reviewers:
-SomeCallMeJohnny
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Seriously, the guy is the only person I've seen who is completely objective on his reviews, and when he does give his opinion, he lets that clear and that it might be different for other people
This!
I can always count on Johnny for a great review.
Reminds me of their Sonic Unleashed review.

The reviewer might as well have played with their feet.
"The jump button can be fatally unresponsive at times"
*Jumps off cliff on purpose*
 

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Disney Infinity is a double-edge sword. One one hand, it's a great creation tool and the playsets are great time-killers.

On the other hand, you're paying a radical amount for figurines and power discs.



From my memory, I believe he has a Super Jump? Looking it up, he's got one level of Super Jump, but also regenerates health (?), reflects projectiles, and has a parry attack. Definite upgrade from 2.0 Cap. I do wish they'd upgrade some of the 1.0 / 2.0 characters to fit the 3.0 formula, though. Phineas and Jack Skellington are so bare bones they've become boring.
This is true. But I'll probably go ahead and start collecting some of my favorite characters again sooner or later. It'll be a slow process, but I'm not in that much of a rush to get figurines either. I'm behind on a lot more than just the figurines themselves.

Outside of the 1.0 set default characters, I know I have Jack Skellington and Sorcerer Mickey. and I think I might have a few others.....once again, it's been way too long.
 

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Let's also mention the fact that the Cars characters are a thing. If they tried to make them a combination of a character and a vehicle, I think it could've turned out well. They were definitely more cartoony in their films, and could've potentially had actual attacks with donuts, backflips, wheel grinding, etc. and each have a unique function (Mater's cable as a grapple? Spy weapons? Car tricks?) but nope, we got expensive power discs.

Still waiting for 1.0 characters to get Super Moves too. The biggest omission in my opinion.
It really makes me wonder what they're going to do with Dory and Nemo. I have faith they won't be as limited as the Cars cast, but I just wonder how they'll be executed.
 

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It's one thing to have controversial opinions in a review, it's another to act like a baby and not review a game when it's their job as a journalist to do so.

I don't care whatever score a game gets or whatever are a reviewer's opinion of a game. After all, they're opinion editorials, so they write THEIR experience with the game, whether they liked it or not, listing pros and cons, and so on.

The **** Polygon pulled? Straight up lack of professionalism and reflects poorly on the site and the video game industry.
Exactly. Review what you played. And play enough to give a general review. Oy. -_-

Nobody expects one to like a game. But at least play enough to give a real judgment of it.

I've never seen this kind of crap before myself. Where they purposely call it "unfinished" and don't bother to do their job. This isn't the same thing as refusing to release an unfinished game. That's... reasonable. But refusing to review one cause it's not as content-full as you like? Pa-Thet-Ic.
 

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@Annuga That guy's comment specifically says "I'm not talking about a full generated universe". I completely agree with him. We do hold Nintendo to a different standard than other companies. "Boo, another Halo game, do something new!" "OOh, new Smash Bros OMG!!" "Boo, another COD!" "Yaaay, another Mario Kart!! With Pink Gold Peach!"

This is not an insult aimed at anyone, I'm including myself. But seriously, they could have done so much more with Starfox than to basically just remake it. Even if you could just have more choices in where you go, and upgrade your ship between missions, I think that would have attracted me more to it.
Er, these are genuinely bad examples. NOBODY was happy with Pink Gold Peach. Smash has existed for nearly 2 decades and has a measly 4 games. COD games come put yearly, which is part of the reason it's gotten flak by everyone. Don't really have an argument about your Halo example because I don't know much of it
EDIT: Wait a sec, haven't people criticized Mario getting pretty much yearly games?
 
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So, my friend shared this with me
Believable or bull?
A little too soon. Fates has been out for barely a couple of months now.

It's hard to believe that they'll start work on FE15 immediately, especially seeing that the 3DS might be getting a successor in a year or two.

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So, my friend shared this with me
Believable or bull?
Gonna go with Bull.

Fates released relatively recently in the west so they won't already be talking about a new game.
The 3DS is on its last legs so they probably won't be starting any new games for it. Unless you are gamefreak like with Pokemon BW2. That would mean an NX announcement which obviously isn't happening. Even then it is strange they would be doing an interview like this. PLUS they are still working on Fates DLC so they are probably working on that still.



Plus. . .random as hell leaks from out of nowhere are usually fake anyway.
 

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@Annuga That guy's comment specifically says "I'm not talking about a full generated universe". I completely agree with him. We do hold Nintendo to a different standard than other companies. "Boo, another Halo game, do something new!" "OOh, new Smash Bros OMG!!" "Boo, another COD!" "Yaaay, another Mario Kart!! With Pink Gold Peach!"

This is not an insult aimed at anyone, I'm including myself. But seriously, they could have done so much more with Starfox than to basically just remake it. Even if you could just have more choices in where you go, and upgrade your ship between missions, I think that would have attracted me more to it.

PS I don't want to start an argument, I just agreed with that ONE PART of what the guy was saying, and felt that you were reading his intention very differently than I was. :)
I wouldn't say that. The reaction to each Smash Bros game is overwhelmingly negative within the fandom, and Pink Gold Peach got chewed out pretty hard as well. The reason Smash Bros isn't getting mauled for being the same is because there are such massive gaps between releases and people actually do prefer when games don't change in the slightest overall. COD gets chewed out moreso for having releases pumped out constantly, and while admittedly the complaints are to a far lesser extent Pokemon is our resident scapegoat for that.

And who's complaining about Halo?
 

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Reminds me of their Sonic Unleashed review.

The reviewer might as well have played with their feet.
I was about to mention this.

The way journalists treated Sonic Unleashed is my biggest gamer "tick", I would say.

Just that one thing I hate.

GameSpot's treatment of it bothers me even more, because:




I don't care who you are or what you think of Unleashed, but OBJECTIVELY, it's a better game than Sonic '06.

You also don't mark "Imprecise plaforming", "Monotonous combat", and "Tons of control issues" as negatives against Unleashed, and NOT say the same for '06.

Also this:



I mean that's a reasonable enough summation of the Wii version on it's own, but the fact they didn't give the HD version at least that kind of assessment bothers me.
 
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In FE news:
-Today is the franchise's anniversary but Awakening casuals only remember about Lucina's
-It has been confirmed that the EU version of Fates is based off the US one, hope you didn't complain about the changes!
So, my friend shared this with me
Believable or bull?
This is a little old but FE is basically Pokemon now, so I don't doubt they are already working on the next game
I'd hope it was for the Wii U though, I need a FE game on it that isn't THAT
Also, some of you have to remember that Fates was released almost a year ago in Japan
 

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I'd like to buy starfox zero, but I haven't really been able to afford games lately

I can afford 1 game, and it's probably going to be bravely default 2
 

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If Polygon doesn't want to write reviews, then don't send them games.

They're not going to review them anyways right?
 

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Well now I feel proud of myself for calling that it wasn't Fiora and thus had to be the other option. :awesome:
 

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If Polygon doesn't want to write reviews, then don't send them games.

They're not going to review them anyways right?
I wouldn't be surprised if Nintendo blacklisted them for this, honestly.

Wouldn't be the smartest BUSINESS decision, but I wouldn't blame them.

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This tweet is perfect.

By the way, in the other side of things, have you guys heard of the end of Xbox 360 production?
 

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If Polygon doesn't want to write reviews, then don't send them games.

They're not going to review them anyways right?
Considering how review copies work, they would need to be sent beforehand, meaning either A: Polygon said they won't review it and won't be getting a copy, or B: Nintendo gave them a copy, and the reviewer didn't review it, which as their sibling site Kotaku learned in a similar fashion, could have consequences a la Bethesda
 

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And who's complaining about Halo?
Something tells me you haven't looked on Halo Waypoint once in the past 6-7 months.
There's multiple threads every day complaining about the same old stuff (Sprinting, Warzone, REQs, "When's the next update!?") when the real issues are/were the campaign and lack of launch content such as Forge, Grifball and Infection.

Then there's the people in random comment sections on YT, IGN etc. just going "yet ANOTHER Halo game on Xbox." whilst they're hyped for "yet another *insert franchise here* on *insert console here*"
 

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Actually I may save up for Kirby instead of bravely default 2

It's coming out in 2 months, and if I save up I might be able to get the amiibos too
 
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