Social Swamp's Social Thread 3 - And now, the end is near, and so I face the final curtain...

[ChikoLad]

I stupidly ran into this fitting reaction to that Polygon "review" while playing some Hyrule Warriors Legends.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Y'know, I'm gonna try to set a goal. Watch the entire 90's Spiderman series before Homecoming hits

 

[Fenriraga]

Y'know, I'm gonna try to set a goal. Watch the entire 90's Spiderman series before Homecoming hits

>Spiderman
>Homecoming

ANNA KNOWS THE PLOT TO THE NEXT SPIDERMAN MOVIE, PIN HER DOWN

 

[Cutie Gwen]

>Spiderman
>Homecoming

ANNA KNOWS THE PLOT TO THE NEXT SPIDERMAN MOVIE, PIN HER DOWN

WE'RE GETTING CARNAGE! AND MYSTERIO! ALONGSIDE KRAVEN, THANOS AND HOBGOBLIN! YOU'LL NEVER TAKE ME ALIVE! AND THE MAIN ANTAGONIST IS THE WALL!!!!!! MUAHAAHAHAHAHAHA

 

[Fenriraga]

WE'RE GETTING CARNAGE! AND MYSTERIO! ALONGSIDE KRAVEN, THANOS AND HOBGOBLIN! YOU'LL NEVER TAKE ME ALIVE! AND THE MAIN ANTAGONIST IS THE WALL!!!!!! MUAHAAHAHAHAHAHA

I'm actually okay with this outcome.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I'm actually okay with this outcome.

alsosonyisgonnashoveinkamenriderinanattempttomakeanamericanadaptationkthxbai

 

[Frostwraith]

I stopped caring about game reviews a long ago. Polygon's tripe only adds to the reasons why I shouldn't care.

So much for the video game industry being "mature". Bah, such delusions of grandeur.

Even the anime fanbase, for all its hijinks, can be better than this.

 

[Aetheri]

alsosonyisgonnashoveinkamenriderinanattempttomakeanamericanadaptationkthxbai

I never thought I'd ever miss spaces as much as I did trying to read this...@_@

 

[ChikoLad]

I stopped caring about game reviews a long ago. Polygon's tripe only adds to the reasons why I shouldn't care.

So much for the video game industry being "mature". Bah, such delusions of grandeur.

Even the anime fanbase, for all its hijinks, can be better than this.

I don't see how Polygon is representative of the entire industry...

 

[APC99]

I own both Ant-Man and Baloo, as well as Hawkeye, and I can say they're all definitely fun to play.

Ant-Man's pretty technical, but once you upgrade him so that he can combo out of his Ant Dash, he's amazing. Definitely a glass cannon though. He can't take a hit unless you upgrade him to get a shield, and even then, it depletes fast. He's almost like the Little Mac of the game, only with the best jumps in the game. Seriously, he actually ties with Hulk for highest jump, beating out Judy despite her being advertised as the best jumper. And he goes Giant-Man. That's always fun.

Baloo is outright one of my top three favorite figures. He's such a love letter to fans of him and the original film. His projectile is similar to Donald's in that, if you hold the button, it becomes even stronger, and stuns. His finisher where he rips a palm tree out of the ground and whacks foes with it is fantastic, and his special move is really fun to use. All in all he's just fantastic.

Hawkeye is a ranged character by definition, and when you upgrade his bow to launch three explosive arrows at once, he really does some damage and has a means of crowd control. However, he doesn't have crowd control when they swarm him from all sides. His aerial assault, while awesome looking, is on the weak side, and his special move is kind of meh as far as hit detection (might be because I didn't upgrade it fully though). All in all, still a really great character. I just wish he had a super jump like Black Widow though, which is the only thing keeping me from using him more than her.

I figured I'd ask you as well. I'm thinking of picking up Battlegrounds. How does New Cap compare to Old Cap? I really love Old Cap, but if New Cap is considerably better, it might be upgrade time.

New Cap is objectively better. He, at a first glance, seems to be the same, but he's definitely more of a shield-oriented fighter and uses it more than the old Cap. He can punch the shield to knock back foes, and follow up with his shield, which I believe can be upgraded to stun multiple foes. He's also polished wonderfully, the shield constantly scrapes against the ground and launches sparks. He's your basic balanced fighter, is what it boils down to, with a lot of tools. His super move calls down a Helicarrier laser that reflects off of his shield, and it's got great range. Reminds me a bit of Olaf's super.

My other 3.0 Marvel characters (Hulkbuster, Ultron, Panther) are fun as well. Black Panther's very melee-based, and is a lot of fun to play as (although I really don't like the Supers that have you launch between foes like Yoda and Spot, and it just so happens that's his). Ultron feels great, he's a lot like an evil Iron Man in-game, with lasers and flight, plus he's got great melee attacks and can summon Ultron-bots as minions for his Super. Hulkbuster's just your tank character, and can use projectiles in-air, plus a missile launch Super. I highly recommend having at least Panther and Ultron just as characters.

Do keep in mind that Battlegrounds changes up gameplay DRASTICALLY. A lot of the 2.0 (and even some 3.0) characters and power discs are different from iuse in the Toy Box. You can't upgrade the characters in-game, either, and a majority of the unlock rewards aren't too interesting (and it requires you to have nearly all of the Marvel figures to unlock everything), but it's fun in a multi-player setting.

 

[Frostwraith]

I don't see how Polygon is representative of the entire industry...

Implying this is a single and isolated case.

One look at any gaming community is more than enough to see the omnipresent childishness.

And people wonder why games journalism isn't taken seriously.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I never thought I'd ever miss spaces as much as I did trying to read this...@_@

YOU WANT SPACE?

Better than Power Rangers in space/10

 

[APC99]

I stopped caring about game reviews a long ago. Polygon's tripe only adds to the reasons why I shouldn't care.

So much for the video game industry being "mature". Bah, such delusions of grandeur.

Even the anime fanbase, for all its hijinks, can be better than this.

There's very few video game journalists I really trust anymore. Source Gaming, GameXplain and a general consensus on Twitter / YouTube does it for me nowadays.

WE'RE GETTING CARNAGE! AND MYSTERIO! ALONGSIDE KRAVEN, THANOS AND HOBGOBLIN! YOU'LL NEVER TAKE ME ALIVE! AND THE MAIN ANTAGONIST IS THE WALL!!!!!! MUAHAAHAHAHAHAHA

Oh, how I'd kill for Mysterio as the antagonist in Spider-Man: Homecoming. But Thanos as a villain in the John Hughes-style Spider-Man MCU jumpstart? Hope that this scene gets faithfully re-enacted:

 

[Substitution]

I found the perfect Tweet to sum this all up:

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Like good God. Would it hurt to have some respect in your review? There's critiquing, and then there's throwing a temper tantrum.

I believe that reviewers deserve more respect than people give them credit for, but this isn't one of them.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

I really need to get back into Disney Infinity.

The last time I played it was.....at least over a year and a half ago, I think. It's been way too long.

And naturally I'm also not nearly as caught up with the figures as I would like to be. lol.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

There's very few video game journalists I really trust anymore. Source Gaming, GameXplain and a general consensus on Twitter / YouTube does it for me nowadays.



Oh, how I'd kill for Mysterio as the antagonist in Spider-Man: Homecoming. But Thanos as a villain in the John Hughes-style Spider-Man MCU jumpstart? Hope that this scene gets faithfully re-enacted:

I-I-I-I what? Making a helicopter getaway is one thing, but this?
Also, speaking of Spidey films, a friend of mine said this about the previous ones. Tobey Mcguire was a much better Peter Parker and Andrew Garfield was a better Spiderman. Anyone agree with him? I did, Andrew Garfield used a smartphone, **** that noise, I remember Peter for being poor, like I was when I was young, made him more relatable

 

[Burruni]

Nitpicking, but Mudkip is much more of a mudskipper/mudpuppy than an axolotl. Wooper's line is the definitive axolotl line.

True.
The general point being that liberties are taken.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

I stopped caring about game reviews a long ago. Polygon's tripe only adds to the reasons why I shouldn't care.

So much for the video game industry being "mature". Bah, such delusions of grandeur.

Even the anime fanbase, for all its hijinks, can be better than this.

That's why I solely pay attention to the content of the review, not the score.

The fact they wouldn't give it a proper review already proves how important the content, and not the score is. I've played games that are blatantly incomplete(Sonic 06 and Quest 64), but still enjoyed 'em for the ride they gave, despite this. I can still recognize their many flaws.

But if you don't bother to give a proper review of something, flaws included(and of course its good points)..., then why bother? If it's a game I just can't get anywhere in, I don't bother reviewing it because I have yet to experience enough to be neutral and at least not full of extreme bias. Like reviews should be(of course bias is expected, but the less the better).

 

[Deleted member]

I stopped caring about reviews when GameSpot gave Shovel Knight a 7 despite the review itself not listing any negatives

 

[Opossum]

New Cap is objectively better. He, at a first glance, seems to be the same, but he's definitely more of a shield-oriented fighter and uses it more than the old Cap. He can punch the shield to knock back foes, and follow up with his shield, which I believe can be upgraded to stun multiple foes. He's also polished wonderfully, the shield constantly scrapes against the ground and launches sparks. He's your basic balanced fighter, is what it boils down to, with a lot of tools. His super move calls down a Helicarrier laser that reflects off of his shield, and it's got great range. Reminds me a bit of Olaf's super.

My other 3.0 Marvel characters (Hulkbuster, Ultron, Panther) are fun as well. Black Panther's very melee-based, and is a lot of fun to play as (although I really don't like the Supers that have you launch between foes like Yoda and Spot, and it just so happens that's his). Ultron feels great, he's a lot like an evil Iron Man in-game, with lasers and flight, plus he's got great melee attacks and can summon Ultron-bots as minions for his Super. Hulkbuster's just your tank character, and can use projectiles in-air, plus a missile launch Super. I highly recommend having at least Panther and Ultron just as characters.

Do keep in mind that Battlegrounds changes up gameplay DRASTICALLY. A lot of the 2.0 (and even some 3.0) characters and power discs are different from iuse in the Toy Box. You can't upgrade the characters in-game, either, and a majority of the unlock rewards aren't too interesting (and it requires you to have nearly all of the Marvel figures to unlock everything), but it's fun in a multi-player setting.

Sounds great! I have one more question about New Cap...does he have a Super Jump that's comparable to Old Cap's? Old Cap's is amazing.

And yeah, that's true about Battlegrounds. From what I remember, Ant-Man plays almost completely differently in there.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I stopped caring about reviews when GameSpot gave Shovel Knight a 7 despite the review itself not listing any negatives

Which they gave 'Game of the month' and said it had no replayability despite not checking Newgame+ out. And they docked points for Sonic Generations for having stuff that was after SA2

 

[Substitution]

Oh, and before anyone continues on:
http://www.polygon.com/2016/4/20/11466308/not-a-review-star-fox-zero

I at least wanted to link what it was in the first place. Just so context is not lost and everything is running on fumes.

 

[FalKoopa]

The best way to get an idea of how good a game is to play the trial, and if that isn't available, watch a Let's Play.

Certainly works better than taking someone's word for it.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Oh, and before anyone continues on:
http://www.polygon.com/2016/4/20/11466308/not-a-review-star-fox-zero

I at least wanted to link what it was in the first place. Just so context is not lost and everything is running on fumes.

Fumes? Why, dear huggable Subby, nobodies angry, heaven forbid! We're only laughing our buttocks off for this tomfoolery

 

[ChikoLad]

Implying this is a single and isolated case.

One look at any gaming community is more than enough to see the omnipresent childishness.

And people wonder why games journalism isn't taken seriously.

No, the childishness is not omnipresent. That would imply it is all-encompassing to everyone within these communities.

I didn't say this is the only time something like this happened, but saying that it's all-encompassing or that it defines the industry is Polygon-tier pretentiousness.

 

[Frostwraith]

That's why I solely pay attention to the content of the review, not the score.

The fact they wouldn't give it a proper review already proves how important the content, and not the score is. I've played games that are blatantly incomplete(Sonic 06 and Quest 64), but still enjoyed 'em for the ride they gave, despite this. I can still recognize their many flaws.

But if you don't bother to give a proper review of something, flaws included(and of course its good points)..., then why bother? If it's a game I just can't get anywhere in, I don't bother reviewing it because I have yet to experience enough to be neutral and at least not full of extreme bias. Like reviews should be(of course bias is expected, but the less the better).

It's one thing to have controversial opinions in a review, it's another to act like a baby and not review a game when it's their job as a journalist to do so.

I don't care whatever score a game gets or whatever are a reviewer's opinion of a game. After all, they're opinion editorials, so they write THEIR experience with the game, whether they liked it or not, listing pros and cons, and so on.

The **** Polygon pulled? Straight up lack of professionalism and reflects poorly on the site and the video game industry.

 

[Pazzo.]

I found the perfect Tweet to sum this all up:

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Like good God. Would it hurt to have some respect in your review? There's critiquing, and then there's throwing a temper tantrum.

I believe that reviewers deserve more respect than people give them credit for, but this isn't one of them.

BRUTAL.

I'm glad people are calling them out on this immaturity.

 

[Opossum]

I-I-I-I what? Making a helicopter getaway is one thing, but this?
Also, speaking of Spidey films, a friend of mine said this about the previous ones. Tobey Mcguire was a much better Peter Parker and Andrew Garfield was a better Spiderman. Anyone agree with him? I did, Andrew Garfield used a smartphone, **** that noise, I remember Peter for being poor, like I was when I was young, made him more relatable

I actually hear the whole "Macguire was a better Peter, Garfield was a better Spidey" thing quite a bit, so your friend's not alone.


Though from what the reviews are saying, Tom Holland is looking to be the new definitive Peter and Spider-Man.

 

[Champ Gold]

Better than Power Rangers in space/10

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Implying this is a single and isolated case.

One look at any gaming community is more than enough to see the omnipresent childishness.

And people wonder why games journalism isn't taken seriously.

It'll never be taken seriously. Outside of Gamespot as a maybe, nobody likes the gaming journalists

IGN upsets peopl with reviewed for years and it's massive bias, Kotaku and Polygon go the massive political route and drive away fans and Kotaku doesn't know the term of NDA, Gamespot had the Kane and Lynch issue and 8.8.

The best one was Game Trailers but they are dead

 

[APC99]

I really need to get back into Disney Infinity.

The last time I played it was.....at least over a year and a half ago, I think. It's been way too long.

And naturally I'm also not nearly as caught up with the figures as I would like to be. lol.

Disney Infinity is a double-edge sword. One one hand, it's a great creation tool and the playsets are great time-killers.

On the other hand, you're paying a radical amount for figurines and power discs.

Sounds great! I have one more question about New Cap...does he have a Super Jump that's comparable to Old Cap's? Old Cap's is amazing.

And yeah, that's true about Battlegrounds. From what I remember, Ant-Man plays almost completely differently in there.

From my memory, I believe he has a Super Jump? Looking it up, he's got one level of Super Jump, but also regenerates health (?), reflects projectiles, and has a parry attack. Definite upgrade from 2.0 Cap. I do wish they'd upgrade some of the 1.0 / 2.0 characters to fit the 3.0 formula, though. Phineas and Jack Skellington are so bare bones they've become boring.

 

[Burruni]

I have to say.
I haven't seen such a sweet lash back against a review since the Cranky Kong NoA twitter burning a DKCR: TF (think it was IGN).
"Back in my day, falling in a pit was called 'lack of skill' and not 'cheap level design.' "

 

[Substitution]

Fumes? Why, dear huggable Subby, nobodies angry, heaven forbid! We're only laughing our buttocks off for this tomfoolery

I'm being serious here.

I still think the last line is utterly ridiculous and shouldn't have been put in, and also that clickbait title. But to me it looked like it was the header. In fact it's a lot more civil that few fragments made it out to be (if only a bit caustic).


Now it's not the best made by any means, but just saying misinformation is a real thing. It's basically how most controversies begin in the first place.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I'm being serious here.

I still think the last line is utterly ridiculous and shouldn't have been put in, and also that clickbait title. But to me it looked like it was the header. In fact it's a lot more civil that few fragments made it out to be (if only a bit caustic).


Now it's not the best made by any means, but just saying misinformation is a real thing. It's basically how most controversies begin in the first place.

They put that line there in and are trying to be taken seriously. It's like the infamous 'who will I have ice cream with?' line in KH358. They WANT you to take it seriously, but make it absolutely laughable. Likewise, 'too much water' could be a valid complaint with ORAS as the late game is filled with it, limiting your team options to types that can handle it

 

[Soul.]

Polygon's projected Mario Kart 8 sales numbers are still hilarious.

Later on the game ends up selling 7.24 million lol.

 

[Schnee117]

I have to say.
I haven't seen such a sweet lash back against a review since the Cranky Kong NoA twitter burning a DKCR: TF (think it was IGN).
"Back in my day, falling in a pit was called 'lack of skill' and not 'cheap level design.' "

That was Gamespot I think.
IGN gave DK:TF a 9 and praised it for "Clever level designs"

Spoiler

 

[Opossum]

Disney Infinity is a double-edge sword. One one hand, it's a great creation tool and the playsets are great time-killers.

On the other hand, you're paying a radical amount for figurines and power discs.



From my memory, I believe he has a Super Jump? Looking it up, he's got one level of Super Jump, but also regenerates health (?), reflects projectiles, and has a parry attack. Definite upgrade from 2.0 Cap. I do wish they'd upgrade some of the 1.0 / 2.0 characters to fit the 3.0 formula, though. Phineas and Jack Skellington are so bare bones they've become boring.

Whoa whoa whoa
He gets Health Regeneration? That's amazing. Definitely getting him now. Sorry, Old Cap.

And yeah, I definitely agree. With the ones I have, there are some gripes. I don't get why Rapunzel and Captain Jack Sparrow can't air juggle when the generic versions of their weapons can (I know it has to do with their block breaker, but I mean...come on), why they didn't give Ralph a wall crawl ability when he climbs and wrecks buildings for a living, or why Woody didn't get a lasso move added as a force-pull type move.

Though some 1.0 characters can still hold their own pretty well. Rapunzel in particular, really. She's a tank. Health regeneration alongside a powerful, multi-hit, ranged frying pan attack? Awesome stuff. Jack Sparrow with an upgraded flintlock's also really good, while Ralph is really good against huge enemies like Tank Omnidroids where attack accuracy matters less. Sorcerer Mickey's also still pretty fun.

 

[Deleted member]

Good reviewers:
-SomeCallMeJohnny
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Seriously, the guy is the only person I've seen who is completely objective on his reviews, and when he does give his opinion, he lets that clear and that it might be different for other people

 

[Champ Gold]

That was Gamespot I think.
IGN gave DK:TF a 9 and praised it for "Clever level designs"

Spoiler

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IGN LOVES 2D platformers. It's why Sonic 4: Episode 1 got at one point higher scores than Generations and Colors and they really like the handheld games too.

They get clouded with nostalgia and bias.

 

[A Distant Demon]

Though from what the reviews are saying, Tom Holland is looking to be the new definitive Peter and Spider-Man.

This is amazing news for someone who has loved Spider Man since childhood.

 

[Substitution]

They put that line there in and are trying to be taken seriously. It's like the infamous 'who will I have ice cream with?' line in KH358. They WANT you to take it seriously, but make it absolutely laughable. Likewise, 'too much water' could be a valid complaint with ORAS as the late game is filled with it, limiting your team options to types that can handle it

Oh sure it's laughable and extremely immature.
If you looked at nothing else of the article.

It'd be like if I said "I hate Smashboards" without anything else attached to it. Well how else am I going to look at it?

Once again, it's not like the line isn't good by any means, but it's not as whiny as the lack of context makes it. I mean at least then you know the reasons why.