Social Swamp's Social Thread 3 - And now, the end is near, and so I face the final curtain...

[Naoshi]

Or because it's a legitimately high quality series.

This.

Nintendo doesn't need controversy to sell. What a crazy thing to say.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

This.

Nintendo doesn't need controversy to sell. What a crazy thing to say.

'Featuring Animal Crossing Yakuza! Now you play as Tom Nook, and you break everyone's kneecaps!'

I'd buy that tbh

 

[DoodleDuck97]

I'd make the best balance patches ever.

I'd turn Pac-Man into Brawl Meta Knight and make Falcon's jab a one hit KO move.

And you'll like it.

I'd just make Lucas invulnerable.
You go near him.
You implode ala his Project M hidden Taunt.

 

[Wario Bros.]

In other news, Nintendy is gonna have their own Black Friday soon

http://happyholidays.nintendo.com/cyber-deals

 

[aldelaro5]

So, I jsut noticed something that paper amrio supporter might just find funny

this is an excerpt of the paper jam site:

Paper Mario meets Mario and Luigi

Paper Mario™ is jumping off the page and into the quirky adventures of Mario™ and Luigi™! Become a superstar team of Mario Bros. to take on quests, take down enemies, and untangle these two classic universes in this playful new entry in the Mario and Luigi RPG series.

I see 3 trademark, mario luigi and "paper mario", they all clearly refference the character.

If you needed any proof that mario and paper mario are not the same, there you go

Seriously, I now find it silly when people still think they are the same

 

[AreJay25]

In other news, Nintendy is gonna have their own Black Friday soon

http://happyholidays.nintendo.com/cyber-deals

If they have amiibo's on there.

R.I.P.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

hype boiz!
Can't wait till he gets released

 

[Chrono.]

PC modders are already being weird with SFV.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

PC modders are already being weird with SFV.

SFV really IS Jojo!

 

[PK_Wonder]

In other news, Nintendy is gonna have their own Black Friday soon

http://happyholidays.nintendo.com/cyber-deals

That's exciting. There's a few indie games I've been waiting to go on sale, so hopefully they'll be part of this.



http://www.gamespot.com/articles/earthbound-sequel-mother-3-confirmed-for-wii-ubut-/1100-6432254/

I'm sure this was talked about and I missed it, but people should prepare to respectfully campaign heavily on the Miiverse page and social media to get the game localized in 'Murica and Europe. It worked before, and it will again with the right demand, even if it takes six months or a year. Just keep it respectful.

 

[Champ Gold]

In other news, Nintendy is gonna have their own Black Friday soon

http://happyholidays.nintendo.com/cyber-deals

>no information on Amiibos for Little Mac, Robin and Wii Fit Trainer

You see Nintendo, I'm trying to give you my money but you can't help me out.

I guess you don't need my money

 

[Cutie Gwen]

tfw the 50% off doesn't apply to PAL

This is because we're getting so much good **** you guys aren't getting first isn't it?

 

[Wario Bros.]

>no information on Amiibos for Little Mac, Robin and Wii Fit Trainer

You see Nintendo, I'm trying to give you my money but you can't help me out.

I guess you don't need my money

Have you tried Toys 'R' Us for Little Mac? Him, Shulk, Villager, Captain Falcon, & Greninja got restocks there not too long ago.

 

[Das Koopa]

"Futuristic"

Bruh, you've clearly never played Halo. Most of the UNSC's weapons use bullets. Changing that is stepping all over the lore of the franchise and bound to piss off the majority of the fanbase.

This goes back to that whole censorship deal.

Don't.touch.it.

Plus, I doubt M$ would ever allow Chief to get in if Nintendo isn't gonna allow him to have his trademark guns.

Only reason those changes worked for Snake is cause non-lethal runs are encouraged in MGS, and stealth is prefered over confrontation. The entirety of Snake's moveset is Stealth-based, even with the explosives. And the weapons he does get are among the most iconic of the franchise, with the RPG being used in the boss fight against the HIND in MGS1, and at tge end of MGS2, the Nikita being a series staple, and Grenades and C4s being exemplary of syealth-based takedowns.

Taking the BR and SMGs from Chief is like taking away Link's sword and bow.

EDIT:

Also,

"His guns don't look realistic"

Except for the part that they totally do:

They're based off real weapons. And Chief's armor is being used as a source of inspiration for real combat armor for troops by DARPA. It's futuristic, but it's far from unrealistic. Sci-fi is always grounded in reality.

Maybe the people supporting Master Chief should play the Halo series before saying dumb things.

I have - but it's been a while. So, yes, that was a poor point. You didn't need to be as rude as you were about it, but that seems to be a trait in your posts.

Unsurprisingly, you rail against "PC culture". There's a good point in there, but you're using as an excuse to be rude in otherwise civil conversations. See: Your terrible jab at Gematsu supporters, where you decide you'll just ignore any nuances in their arguments and deride them by comparing their points to a tweet.

Thanks anyway.

 

[A Distant Demon]

yoooo we in there. His giant hair kind of makes it look terrible from being so small though haha

That's exciting. There's a few indie games I've been waiting to go on sale, so hopefully they'll be part of this.



http://www.gamespot.com/articles/earthbound-sequel-mother-3-confirmed-for-wii-ubut-/1100-6432254/

I'm sure this was talked about and I missed it, but people should prepare to respectfully campaign heavily on the Miiverse page and social media to get the game localized in 'Murica and Europe. It worked before, and it will again with the right demand, even if it takes six months or a year. Just keep it respectful.

People on the internet respectful? good luck with that one.

localized Mother 3 would be awesome though,

 

[SuperMii3D]

In other news, Nintendo is gonna have their own Black Friday soon

http://happyholidays.nintendo.com/cyber-deals

Im anxious to see the Eshop deals ;-; Why do we have to wait until he 25th to view them?

 

[LIQUID12A]

So here's a quick question.

Do you think future Smash DLC will be 100% third parties, and why? And would you approve of it?

Just gathering opinions.

 

[DoodleDuck97]

One day we shall look back at this.
And remember how amazing this Roster/ Game was.

What a DLC Line Up though.
Two Melee
Hopefully two Brawl.
Two 3rd Parties

 

[Champ Gold]

Have you tried Toys 'R' Us for Little Mac? Him, Shulk, Villager, Captain Falcon, & Greninja got restocks there not too long ago.

You want me to trust freaking Toys R Us?

Cmon man

Spoiler

If it's more than $12 then I ain't buying

 

[CrusherMania1592]

where are these from?

They're from the materia that's in Cloud's Buster Sword

 

[Deleted member]

Wow... :/

Nice generalizing there.

Except it's not.

Feminism has never been about equal rights. Even though it claims to be about gender rights, it's never bothered with men's rights, and it's never extended it's goals outside of first world "problems."

I judge an ideology based on it's results, not on what it pretends to do. Both feminism and MRA are equally misguided.

Being against an ideology that is clearly self-interested doesn't mean you're against equality, doesn't mean you're sexist and doesn't mean you're bigoted. I look at the facts, not at misinformation and propaganda. "The patriarchy" isn't a thing, and we need to pull our heads out if the sand if we wanna evoke true equality.

 

[Dravidian]

Considering the reasons for censoring a lot of the other content both in this game as well as previous ones is to appeal to a family friendly images, as well as avoid offending an overly sensitive culture that is bound to start controversy over nothing, I feel it's not too farfetched to assume the boobslider bit falls into a similar category.

Oh, it's not farfetched in the least. It's an understandable conclusion. It simply shouldnt be assumed to be true. There are a ton of factors to consider.

Deal is, Nintendo needs to realise controversy is good. That's literally why GTA even sells in the first place.

Controversy can be good. It can also be bad. It depends on the results of the controversy. I mean you consider censorshio controversal, but I doubt you consider it a good thing.

Anyway, I was just spinning PC thinking on itself. Their rationale is "change this cause it's offensive" when in fact, the very act of removing something to appeal to a specific group can be offensive in an of itself.

I completely agree. But sometimes you're screwed either way. And sometimes it's best to not do something in the first place. We wouldnt be having this convo if we didnt have a build-your-hero protagonist. Almost every decision is double edged.

Ofc, you can't expect conformist hipsters and social activists to have much in the way of critical thinking skills. They're just blindly following others to fit in by not fitting in and not really paying attention to the **** they're spewing (this is why feminism fails on so many levels).

I mostly agree. Simply following and spewing what you hear is a bad idea; this is coming from a Christian. But thinking and coming to one's own conclusion doesnt mean that suddenly everyone will agree either. Instead of illogical people arguing and almost never agreeing, you'll have logical people arguing and almost never agreeing.

And to be fair, there's a good bit of both already happening; there's plenty of logical people.

Even going to your example, feminism, there's plenty of logical people. I'll even say that most feminist are logical people supporting a good concept. The only "failing" aspect of feminism is that a vocal minority (i.e. the public voice of feminism) happen to be extremists. Feminism has actually done some good. Now I just wish males didn't get socially and legally screwed over so much....

 

[aldelaro5]

So here's a quick question.

Do you think future Smash DLC will be 100% third parties, and why? And would you approve of it?

Just gathering opinions.

I posted in the wrong thread on this

So, apparently, there's people (at my surprise) that would disagree with this, but I don;t think all the three slots including cloud would be all third party.

I just don;t think it would make much sense. Cloud being in ballot to me make sense, what wouldn’t make sense is systematically choose the ballot to be third party only for ssb4 (and I guess keep the rest for future games). See, there;s some reasons that I just don;t think it could make sense.

First, these 3 slots appeared even before the ballot ended with the first 2 were seen really early (so early that I think you could say they got added as the ballot started or even before). If they intended to only have third party on all ballot slots (because the ballot was certainly planned before), how could they actually know there would be at least 2 good candidate?

Because if you think about it, they have to do the ballot to get reliable data, they won;t assume the data before it comes. That would remove the point of doing a ballot, they really had to do the ballot before knowing this.

Adding a third slot a bit after (although, idk if we can safely say it happened right on the update that it was discovered) raises the suspicions even more. They would have had to know 2 third party was going in the ballot and while the ballot would happen add a third slot OR they intended to have 3 slots which makes even less sense if the third party theory is true and the paragraph I just said before.

Basically, no matter when the third slots was added, it all comes down to they had to know the data before, but this just removes the point of the ballot.

So it had to be decided after the ballot, but then I still have a very weird feeling.

Why exactly would they ever do this on a ballot that actually was meant for any valid character? I mean, they will only keep this data "in case" future game happens, but the reality is no one know if they will exist. Not that they won;t happen, but it;s not decided if there will be one so leaving the entire ballot to be third party with the intend to have the first party get in future game is VERY weird.

Cause that logic would assume they know they are making another game, but isn't sakurai a third party dev? Because once the dlc ends for this game......it just ends, his job would be done. Like seriously, unless he signed another contract (which I REALLY doubt at this point), he wouldn;t know if he would work on future smash game aka why would they split the third party and first party choices NIOW?

Sorry @PushDustIn but after thinking about it, I just have to disagree here, I don;t see how it would make sense.

TL;DR: I do not think it would make sense to be 100% third party

 

[A Distant Demon]

Do you think future Smash DLC will be 100% third parties, and why? And would you approve of it?

No because not having any 1st party newcomers would be crazy

And would you approve of it?

No because not having any 1st party newcomers would be crazy

 

[Naoshi]

I look at the facts

Sure you do.

I no longer wish to speak with you.

 

[Kenith]

I totally am not dropping Lucina from a character from a game I've never played based on one trailer. Nuh uh.

 

[Wario Bros.]

You want me to trust freaking Toys R Us?

Cmon man

Spoiler

If it's more than $12 then I ain't buying

iirc, It's $13.99 (the normal MSRP price of a Smash amiibo)

 

[AncientTobacco]

So here's a quick question.

Do you think future Smash DLC will be 100% third parties, and why? And would you approve of it?

Just gathering opinions.

No and no.

Smash Bros. can still be considered as an all-star collection of Nintendo characters. Just like with Mega Man or any other third-party character, it would have to be a very special situation.

Adding third-party characters should be considered a very special case. In the last game, when we added Sonic and Snake, there were lots of different hoops to jump through as far as getting approvals and making sure all the parties involved were happy with the way things went. You can consider it a very special circumstance for that to happen. Even in cases like adding Pokemon characters, there are a lot of parties involved and there’s a lot of wrangling. It’s much tougher than people can imagine. I know lots of people have requests and their own ideas about third-party characters that would work, but I want people to understand that adding a third-party character like Mega Man is a very special situation.

EDIT: Wait, missed the "DLC" part. Well, my answer is still the same, though it's not as definite.

 

[Bedoop]

My god, the Bunny Employee deserves a raise ASAP
The final day of the Mario & Friends set is goin' on in the Badge Center and I ****ed up trying to get Luigi and Yoshi with the 1 free play I had and it was so close too
But the Bunny gave me 1 more Free Play for no good reason and I got 'em
Bless Mr. Bunny and his moe-face soul

 

[KenboCalrissian]

We might get some good balance patches if they were allowed to speak up a bit on how to fix some stuff.

But it's not broken...?

 

[Kenith]

Except it's not.

Feminism has never been about equal rights. Even though it claims to be about gender rights, it's never bothered with men's rights, and it's never extended it's goals outside of first world "problems."

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I judge an ideology based on it's results, not on what it pretends to do. Both feminism and MRA are equally misguided.

Being against an ideology that is clearly self-interested doesn't mean you're against equality, doesn't mean you're sexist and doesn't mean you're bigoted. I look at the facts, not at misinformation and propaganda. "The patriarchy" isn't a thing, and we need to pull our heads out if the sand if we wanna evoke true equality.

Since you love long debates about SJWs and sexism so much, why don't you go hang out in this thread:
http://smashboards.com/threads/sexi...al-and-character-design.422551/#post-20404436

I'm sure they'd be more willing to entertain this than we are.

 

[Deleted member]

Or because it's a legitimately high quality series.

You don't understand how marketing works.

"Doesn't matter what people say about you so long as they're talking about you."

Controversy always gets people talking, and always sparks human curiousity. More controversy = more sales, this is a fact.

 

[Ivander]

That reminds me.

I hope Nomura draws the newcomer art for him, I know everyone is kinda sick of him and his anime artstyle but [shrug emoji].

I actually really liked the artwork he did for Dissidia, especially Garland who didn't have any real Amano concept art of his normal form and Nomura had to mostly do from scratch. I think he's usually crapped on because the designs he does nowadays aren't exactly original or inspiring. But I think he did the Dissidia artwork very well and that the meld between his artwork and Amano's artwork was nicely done. And like I said, I really like his design for Garland. If he does do a poster for Smash Bros. and it's anything close to his Dissidia, than I'm A-okay.

 

[epicmartin7]

hype boiz!
Can't wait till he gets released

Sorry from the late response, where did you guys get the stock icon from? Is it fan made at all?

 

[A Distant Demon]

Sorry from the late response, where did you guys get the stock icon from? Is it fan made at all?

:4 cloud:

I totally am not dropping Lucina from a character from a game I've never played based on one trailer. Nuh uh.

And im definitely not dropping a character from my favorite game ever for a game ive never played.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Since you love long debates about SJWs and sexism so much, why don't you go hang out in this thread:
http://smashboards.com/threads/sexi...al-and-character-design.422551/#post-20404436

I'm sure they'd be more willing to entertain this than we are.

This site is infected too?!?! RIP net life

 

[Das Koopa]

You don't understand how marketing works.

"Doesn't matter what people say about you so long as they're talking about you."

Controversy always gets people talking, and always sparks human curiousity. More controversy = more sales, this is a fact.

That's why Hatred is the top selling game of all time

 

[Arcanir]

You don't understand how marketing works.

"Doesn't matter what people say about you so long as they're talking about you."

Controversy always gets people talking, and always sparks human curiousity. More controversy = more sales, this is a fact.

Controversy is not always a good thing, especially if you just go for it just for the sake of it. Yeah, you want people to talk about you and sometimes it is a good thing to push what's accepted, but it's not always and sometimes what is controversial is what leads to your product bombing. For example, that's one of the reasons why Metroid Other M is one of the least successful games in the franchise and Nintendo considered it a failure, the controversy and bad word of mouth caused people to stay away from it.

Edit: Greninja'd on that point.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

That's why Hatred is the top selling game of all time

Hatred confirmed GOTY

 

[Deleted member]

So i decided to go back and see Cloud's day on RTC just for memories and "fun", here's the link if anyone wants to see it. (warning, includes salt). This happaned waaaaaay back, i think it was even before we saw the first trailer (i could be wrong though).