Social Swamp's Social Thread 3 - And now, the end is near, and so I face the final curtain...

[Fenriraga]

I've been really quiet this past week for both work and spending a LOT of time in the lab. I've decided to put Shulk back in my main slot and Cloud on the backburner for awhile.

I love both of these guys but Shulk is just more enjoyable to me and fits my style a bit more. I'd be lying if I didn't say that ZeRo's April Fools joke inspired me a bit as well.

So yeah, Monado Boyz.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I actually looked at the Zelda game that was taken down, it's pretty much a Zelda 1 repaint, which means people might want that instead of the one on the eshop. Though that would imply Zelda 1 was worth that much

Also Ruby confirmed cinnamon roll who doesn't get killed

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

People make rom-hacks and fan-games all the time...Especially for games like Pokemon, more often than not they are available for free online (which I should hope so)...once again people use this as a creative outlet...not to mention for upcoming game designers it's great practice...

As an artist myself I can tell you that a lot of what I draw and paint I have no intention of using or selling in any manner (mainly people I don't think it's good enough) but the point isn't to just sell what you create...Ask any professional chef that puts their heart and soul into any meal they make which gets eaten within minutes of completion...sure they are selling it and making a living off of doing this, but they're not in it for the money or the fame...they are passionate about what they do...

I'm not trying to convince you that either fan creations or original creations are better than the other...heck I'm always in the process of doing my own personal projects...but to say that one is pointless simply because you can't do anything with it is actually kind of insulting to those who actually spend the time to do this...most of the time they are doing these because they enjoy doing it and they love the original source material...I myself sometimes do my own redesigns of certain characters because it's fun, it's good practice, and I love the subject matter...

I just don't fully agree with that.

I couldn't imagine van gogh spending his weekends drawing pikachu, for example.

Making fan art seems to be more an expression of artistic skill than artistic creativity.

The only advantage I see to making fan projects is to attract other people to your work that would normally not be interested just because your making a specific subject they are interested in, than once you have attention making your own projects. It's a tactic I believe a lot of artists use. Showing off your skills in art.

I used to dedicate hours and days in making ideas for a perfect fan game of something.

I felt in the end I was wasting my time because I wasn't really advancing myself in any way

 

[Coricus]

I just don't fully agree with that.

I couldn't imagine van gogh spending his weekends drawing pikachu, for example.

Making fan art seems to be more an expression of artistic skill than artistic creativity.

The only advantage I see to making fan projects is to attract other people to your work that would normally not be interested just because your making a specific subject they are interested in, than once you have attention making your own projects. It's a tactic I believe a lot of artists use. Showing off your skills in art.

I used to dedicate hours and days in making ideas for a perfect fan game of something.

I felt in the end I was wasting my time because I wasn't really advancing myself in any way

They're not doing it as an expression of creativity, they're doing it as an expression of love.

It's not a waste of time because they're doing something that makes them happy.

Not every person who makes fanart has some kind of ulterior motive or wants to have one. They're making fanart because they love the series and want to express their love in a tangible manner.

If you feel that there's just no joy in expressing your affection towards a series in that manner because you can't be rewarded for it, if you feel that it was truly a waste of time for you, then that's your preference. But for many other people it's something that really does make them feel happy.

And the Van Gogh line seems to trail dangerously close to the concept of "True Art," anyway. Saying that you can't see *X* person drawing *Y* is pointless because you can use it to narrow things down to whatever definition of "True Art" you have in mind regardless of the fact that one can literally find artistic fulfillment in anything.

I can't see Leonardo DaVinci drawing the Eiffel Tower, ergo any drawing that contains the Eiffel Tower is not True Art.

And perhaps many of these people don't even care about being "artists." Maybe they have no interest in advancing themselves or making a profit at all and they just want to draw a freaking Pikachu. It's their call whether or not they want to do that, and it's honestly still less of a waste of time than many other things that people spend their time doing.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

They're not doing it as an expression of creativity, they're doing it as an expression of love.

It's not a waste of time because they're doing something that makes them happy.

Not every person who makes fanart has some kind of ulterior motive or wants to have one. They're making fanart because they love the series and want to express their love in a tangible manner.

If you feel that there's just no joy in expressing your affection towards a series in that manner because you can't be rewarded for it, if you feel that it was truly a waste of time for you, then that's your preference. But for many other people it's something that really does make them feel happy.

And the Van Gogh line seems to trail dangerously close to the concept of "True Art," anyway. Saying that you can't see *X* person drawing *Y* is pointless because you can use it to narrow things down to whatever definition of "True Art" you have in mind regardless of the fact that one can literally find artistic fulfillment in anything.

I can't see Leonardo DaVinci drawing the Eiffel Tower, ergo any drawing that contains the Eiffel Tower is not True Art.

And perhaps many of these people don't even care about being "artists." Maybe they have no interest in advancing themselves at all and they just want to draw a freaking Pikachu. It's their call whether or not they want to do that, and it's honestly still less of a waste of time than many other things that people spend their time doing.

I'm not trying to make an argument here, it's just what I believe

It's just what I've decided after years I felt lead to nothing when I feel like I don't have many more years left

Maybe 30, maybe 60...

 

[Aetheri]

I just don't fully agree with that.

I couldn't imagine van gogh spending his weekends drawing pikachu, for example.

Making fan art seems to be more an expression of artistic skill than artistic creativity.

The only advantage I see to making fan projects is to attract other people to your work that would normally not be interested just because your making a specific subject they are interested in, than once you have attention making your own projects. It's a tactic I believe a lot of artists use. Showing off your skills in art.

I used to dedicate hours and days in making ideas for a perfect fan game of something.

I felt in the end I was wasting my time because I wasn't really advancing myself in any way

I have a hard time imaging Van Gogh drawing Pikachu as well but not for the same reasons you are implying...

I'm not going to argue that some people use fan art as a means to gain exposure as their art is more likely to come up in web searches due to having popular key words which are more likely to be used than for something that is lesser known...
It pretty much falls under what people will go for if they want to gain followers/watchers; though I'm not implying it in a negative way considering...
-Fan art
-Nudes/Porn
-Violence/Gore
Personally I have done a bit of all of the above myself (other than porn, though I have drawn my share of nudes, as an artist it's almost a requirement to draw a lot of naked people)...but gaining exposure is good for those who actually want to pursue an actual decent paying job at this particular thing they are passionate about...

Thing is creativity is more than just creating unique designs...When people paint portraits or still-lifes, is it simply just them showing off their skills or are they doing it simply because it's an excuse to paint something? More often than not it's because they love doing it...

If you feel like you're wasting your time doing fan projects then obviously it's not your thing as you're not doing it for the same reasons as others who commit themselves to these projects despite knowing they won't gain anything from it...In which case it is better for you to do something else...

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I have a hard time imaging Van Gogh drawing Pikachu as well but not for the same reasons you are implying...

I'm not going to argue that some people use fan art as a means to gain exposure as their art is more likely to come up in web searches due to having popular key words which are more likely to be used than for something that is lesser known...
It pretty much falls under what people will go for if they want to gain followers/watchers; though I'm not implying it in a negative way considering...
-Fan art
-Nudes/Porn
-Violence/Gore
Personally I have done a bit of all of the above myself (other than porn, though I have drawn my share of nudes, as an artist it's almost a requirement to draw a lot of naked people)...but gaining exposure is good for those who actually want to pursue an actual decent paying job at this particular thing they are passionate about...

Thing is creativity is more than just creating unique designs...When people paint portraits or still-lifes, is it simply just them showing off their skills or are they doing it simply because it's an excuse to paint something? More often than not it's because they love doing it...

If you feel like you're wasting your time doing fan projects then obviously it's not your thing as you're not doing it for the same reasons as others who commit themselves to these projects despite knowing they won't gain anything from it...In which case it is better for you to do something else...

You are certainly passionate to fight against my reasoning in drawing my own creatures instead of pokemon when I was 10

I'm not sure why my opinion should offend you when I'm not forcing it upon anyone else

 

[Coricus]

I'm not trying to make an argument here, it's just what I believe

It's just what I've decided after years I felt lead to nothing when I feel like I don't have many more years left

Maybe 30, maybe 60...

I feel myself rushing to the grave as well.

I'm almost surely far younger than you, but here is what I see:

Nothing on this earth has ever or will ever be worth anyone's time.

99.99% of the people on the planet will never be remembered after their deaths aside from some footnote in a geneology paper, and 99.99% of the people left after that will only be remembered by the tiniest of niches of human society.

You will be no more remembered for making a wobbly Pikachu than for a magnificent picture of whatever novel you wrote that immediately went to rot on a bookshelf because your work being original doesn't mean anyone on the planet actually cares about it. Unless you quit your artistic job, get into global politics, and proceed to develop enough influence that you could shift the nature of the human race itself to the point where you will either be seen as a saint or the Devil himself, no one will remember you in 100 years.

No one.

You are certainly passionate to fight against my reasoning in drawing my own creatures instead of pokemon when I was 10

I'm not sure why my opinion should offend you when I'm not forcing it upon anyone else

Because when disdain is felt so strongly from your text towards something someone holds great value towards, it feels like a violation of that person's joy towards it. And that feeling is amplified when they've heard them same thing before.

This is a world where people read books, watch films and TV shows, listen to music, and do a whole lot of other things that in the grand scheme of things are nothing more than a colossal waste of time. It's a bit irritating that the things one enjoys doing happen to be the few tiny flakes of that grand mountain of uselessness that get singled out as being "useless."

The disdain feels like a judgement of anyone who partakes in that form of entertainment, regardless of whether it was intended as such. You are partaking in a worthless activity, ergo you yourself are worth less as a human being.

 

[Deleted member]

I got PSYCHIC! What Pokémon type are you? https://t.co/j6yo3k43kG #Pokemon20

— Pre-order Metroid Prime 4: Beyond (@FinalSmashGamer) April 5, 2016

My second favorite type, neat.
Go try the Pokémon Quiz here too, it's pretty funny.

 

[Aetheri]

You are certainly passionate to fight against my reasoning in drawing my own creatures instead of pokemon when I was 10

I'm not sure why my opinion should offend you when I'm not forcing it upon anyone else

Your reasoning was basically this 'fan creations are pointless and I gain nothing from doing it' and I was making my statements as to why I believe that isn't the case...If it's still how you really feel about it then of course don't do it...

But what I believe is creation, in any capacity; fan-made or original, shouldn't be about what you gain from it...

I'm only passionate about it because it's something I very greatly relate to...but your opinion is still your opinion...I do not take offense so easily...I was merely giving you my point of view on the matter...

 

[Substitution]

Eh... Talking from the sidelines for a sec:

I'll be honest, sometimes an art piece is just that. Art. I don't look at most of what I create and think: "Yeah, I could put this in something." or "Yeah, I can see this getting popular."
I create because I like the medium. That's about it.


And when it comes to why fans in general do it, I think a lot of why people do it is less showing how much they adore a franchise or how they can get popular riding off the coattails and more it's entertaining. I like to draw, this show/movie/game/balsamic vinegar is something I enjoy, why not make something with it?
Sure this blanket doesn't fit everyone, but I don't think most do it with some hidden intent in mind.

I mean look at the Substitute down below that follows almost every one of my rambles. Really I didn't need to create it, and for the longest time I didn't; most of the time it was some glitch I found in a video game. But I thought it'd be fun to make a little sprite and went from there.

And heck that's how a lot of art is created. From smaller fan pictures to original, larger works.


Honestly I find fan art to also be a decent warm-up exercise. You have the references you need, it's (hopefully) not a subject you despise, and you can go from there to get started on the real projects.



Though once again it's just how I'm seeing this from the sidelines. I don't intend on picking any fights.

 

[Coricus]

I got PSYCHIC! What Pokémon type are you? https://t.co/j6yo3k43kG #Pokemon20

— Pre-order Metroid Prime 4: Beyond (@FinalSmashGamer) April 5, 2016

My second favorite type, neat.
Go try the Pokémon Quiz here too, it's pretty funny.

I. . .also got Psychic.

Huh.

 

[Aetheri]

All this talk of fan-projects reminds me of the Zelda project I've been meaning to tackle which basically involves me doing a bunch of redesigns of a little bit of everything from the Zelda series...

 

[ChikoLad]

For me personally, I do fan projects because it is the best way for me to learn new techniques and improve my workflow in various programs.

Of course I partly just like making certain ideas with characters I like, especially when I believe they won't be done officially.

 

[FalKoopa]

I had a rather extensive Pokémon like world I had made in my free time.
I started it back in 2004, when I was introduced to Pokémon for the first time, and I maintained it until around 2010. As I grew older and I learnt about new things, I kept adding them to the world.

• Originally I just started out with a world with 180 mons in 51 families. Except that they could talk and had human-level intelligence.
• I later on added humans, elves and dwarves as additional races co-existing with the mons.
• As I learnt about geography, I divided the world into 6 countries and gave them physical features.
• I learnt about history, and gave each country its own history and included rebellions and such and the number of countries grew to twelve.
• I learnt about political sciences, and I gave each country its own system of government - monarchies, dictatorships, democracies, etc, and its own flag.
• I even created royal dynasties and political parties for the monarchies and democracies respectively.
• I later on divided each country into provinces and named each of them.
• I learnt economics, and gave each country a resource they specialised in (which could be anything from tin to strawberry juice), as well as each country's main trading partner.
• I took an interest in languages, and gave each country their own language (mostly English, Japanese or Hindi based), complete with scripts I made up myself.
• I even gave each country its weapons (their own designs of lances and swords) and war machines - everything from horses, elephants, trucks, tanks and even trains.
• And to top it off, there was a sister planet with its own set of creatures.

It's kind of insane how much I was into world-building back then. It's a fond memory, and despite having stopped 6 years ago, I remember it vividly.

 

[Coricus]

I had a rather extensive Pokémon like world I had made in my free time.
I started it back in 2004, when I was introduced to Pokémon for the first tim, and I maintained it until around 2010. As I grew older and I learnt about new things, I kept adding them to the world.

• Originally I just started out with a world with 180 mons in 51 families. Except that they could talk and had human-level intelligence.
• I later on added humans, elves and dwarves as additonal races co-existing with the mons.
• As I learnt abour geography, I divided the world into 6 countries and gave them physical features.
• I learnt about history, and gave each country its own history and included rebellions and such and the number of countries grew to twelve.
• I learnt about political sciences, and I gave each country its own system of government - monarchies, dictatorships, democracies, etc.
• I even created royal dynasties and political parties for the monarchies and democracies respectively.
• I later on divided each country into provinces and named each of them.
• I learnt economics, and gave each country a resource they specialised in (which could be anything from tin to strawberry juice), as well as each country's main trading partner.
• I took an interest in languages, and gave each country their own language (mostly English, Japanese or Hindi based), complete witch scripts I made up myself.
• I even gave each country its weapons (their own designs of lances and swords) and war machines - everything from horses, elephants, trucks, tanks and even trains.
• And to top it off, there was a sister planet with its own set of creatures.

It was kind of insane how much I was into world-building back then. It's a fond memory, and despite having stopped 6 years ago, I remember it vividly.

I remember when I had a little world that I hung onto for the longest time and then gave it up only to still remember it fondly.

I never actually fleshed it out like you, it was just a vague idea of what the place was like that I would go to in my mind rather often, but it was always there.

Lately I've decided that I want it back.

And I want to have that experience of building my own world.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

There is this study that people treat others in WoW better if their avatar is more attractive

Using a player controlling a blood elf character and a player using an orc character as an example.

But, from my experience in WoW that was not the case.

I remember Blood Elf players being treated like noobs because they "didn't really belong with the horde"

 

[Deleted member]

You've been in a coma for...9 hours. #HighQualityVideoGameRIP pic.twitter.com/Na7IhA1HMm

— The Joke-Explainer™ 7000 (@GiIvaSunner) April 7, 2016

GilvaSunner's YouTube channel has been terminated...

EDIT :

Only discovered it this morning.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Believe it or not, I like relatively close to an asylum

In fact, my high school was within walking distance of it.

I just found out the reason I've been hearing helicopters constantly tonight is that an insane violent killer has escaped from that asylum tonight

Edit:

2 people

 

[Kurri ★]

You've been in a coma for...9 hours. #HighQualityVideoGameRIP pic.twitter.com/Na7IhA1HMm

— The Joke-Explainer™ 7000 (@GiIvaSunner) April 7, 2016

GilvaSunner's YouTube channel has been terminated...

EDIT :

Only discovered it this morning.

GilvaSunner may be dead, but BrawlBRSTMs3 shall take their place

Long live high quality rips

 

[CyberHyperPhoenix]

There's so much potential in Miitomo

Hopefully Nintendo doesn't forget about Latin America

N I C K Y U N G B O Y S

I love Miitomo so much

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

People these days seem to think "People with advantages" should cut back so other people have a chance.

That's the wrong attitude. It's survival of the fittest. Those other people are your competition. You need all the advantages you can get to succeed, and damn if those other people will take any advantages they can get as well, including you cutting back

 

[FalKoopa]

People these days seem to think "People with advantages" should cut back so other people have a chance.

That's the wrong attitude. It's survival of the fittest. Those other people are your competition. You need all the advantages you can get to succeed, and damn if those other people will take any advantages they can get as well, including you cutting back

I'd like to think that humans have outgrown that phase. You don't really have to be the "fittest" to survive out there.

In an ideal world, you should be succeeding on your merits alone. That's why things like affirmative action exist, to create a level playing field. (How good it is at creating a level field is another matter.)

A survival of the fittest attitude can be a great motivator to make you put in the effort to succeed, but too much of it is detrimental to your overall happiness.

That's just my take on it. I'm not really aiming for the top of the social ladder, just up to the point where I can live a satisfactory quality of life.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I'd like to think that humans have outgrown that phase. You don't really have to be the "fittest" to survive out there.

In an ideal world, you should be succeeding on your merits alone. That's why things like affirmative action exist, to create a level playing field. (How good it is at creating a level field is another matter.)

A survival of the fittest attitude can be a great motivator to make you put in the effort to succeed, but too much of it is detrimental to your overall happiness.

That's just my take on it. I'm not really aiming for the top of the social ladder, just up to the point where I can live a satisfactory quality of life.

I'm referring to things like that article that "Parents shouldn't read bed time stories to their children because it creates an unfair advantage to children that don't get read bed time stories"

 

[Deleted member]

I'm referring to things like that article that "Parents shouldn't read bed time stories to their children because it creates an unfair advantage to children that don't get read bed time stories"

Children shouldn't be fed because there are still countries where they starve to death

 

[DoodleDuck97]

Guys I never got around to asking about this but what is the QR Link up in our profile section for?
Been curious for a while now.

Anybody want some amiibo diorama's?

Well Nintendo of Japan has started making them
https://www.nintendo.co.jp/amiibo/diorama/index.html#kirby\

I wonder if the wet will get them.

Just when you think your money is safe from Amiibo buying.
Curse you Japan and your amazing products.

 

[ChikoLad]

I don't know where this discussion is coming from, but...

I feel like it has to be a balance.

"Survival of the fittest" and "Equal opportunity" are both just ideals. They are both ideas that sound like fantastic systems on paper. It would be great if all I had to do to succeed was work harder than everybody else, and be the very best (like no one ever was) at everything. It'd also be great if I had as much of a shot at success as everyone else, regardless of my background or how much work I put in.

However, as I said before, both of these are just ideals. Believing in either to an extreme just doesn't work and they are not fully compatible with our society, or even with human nature. We can't have a world that is fully "equal opportunity" because humans are competitive by nature and will always want to prove themselves and be better at something than somebody else. But "survival of the fittest" doesn't work either because there will always be people who are naturally better than you at certain things. They will effortlessly perform with perfection at something with little practice. Meanwhile, you could try to grow a talent for years and never even come close to as good. Also, being too extreme into either ideal, can easily cause conflict and wars, if taken on a large scale, so it's naturally destructive to our society to be too extreme towards either ideal.

That's my two cents on the matter. As simply and as briefly as I can think to put it.

 

[FalKoopa]

I'm referring to things like that article that "Parents shouldn't read bed time stories to their children because it creates an unfair advantage to children that don't get read bed time stories"

Link? Sounds interesting.

Anyway, let's take it seriously for a bit. The argument is rotten at the core. It basically says that "If I can't have it, no one should have it." That's toxic.

 

[Zzuxon]

Equality is neither attainable nor desirable. Free people are not equal, and equal people are not free.

 

[aldelaro5]

GilvaSunner may be dead, but BrawlBRSTMs3 shall take their place

Long live high quality rips

Actually, I don`t like brawlbrstm because first, 192kbps and second, omg they HAD to upload compressed music originally like omg some of them are awfull.

I was hearing a super metroid track where it was int he water area, I don't remmeber the name, but point is, that track has a lot of highs and the stereo imaging makes it very echo feeling.

Well on brstm, I felt someone was yelling with a high pitch voice way too close to my ears while my wav rip......simply came close to, but it was JUST right.

And that one time when I heard gluchy gluch (might have messed upt he name) from pm64 and hearing clear static at the beginning in the background.

Basically, I don't like it and it annoys me when I don't have the choice to

 

[PushDustIn]

I don't know where this discussion is coming from, but...

I feel like it has to be a balance.

"Survival of the fittest" and "Equal opportunity" are both just ideals. They are both ideas that sound like fantastic systems on paper. It would be great if all I had to do to succeed was work harder than everybody else, and be the very best (like no one ever was) at everything. It'd also be great if I had as much of a shot at success as everyone else, regardless of my background or how much work I put in.

However, as I said before, both of these are just ideals. Believing in either to an extreme just doesn't work and they are not fully compatible with our society, or even with human nature. We can't have a world that is fully "equal opportunity" because humans are competitive by nature and will always want to prove themselves and be better at something than somebody else. But "survival of the fittest" doesn't work either because there will always be people who are naturally better than you at certain things. They will effortlessly perform with perfection at something with little practice. Meanwhile, you could try to grow a talent for years and never even come close to as good. Also, being too extreme into either ideal, can easily cause conflict and wars, if taken on a large scale, so it's naturally destructive to our society to be too extreme towards either ideal.

That's my two cents on the matter. As simply and as briefly as I can think to put it.

Equality is never attainable, but it can get better. I got screwed on the cost of college because my family wasn't poor enough for me to qualify for additional financial aid (even though I was the one paying for it), and my parents werent rich enough to actually pay for my college. So now I have 80,000 USD left in loans, and I'm almost 5 years in paying them with monthly payments of 920 USD a month. I have another 10 years to go before I'll finish paying them off. That system is sooo messed up in America. I went to an expensive school...but they 100% met my financial aid requirements so it ended up being 17-23,000 a year.

At the same time, perfect equality is never going to be attainable. People have bias, people have their quirks. People will like or hate you for sometimes reasons outside of your control (you will remind them of someone)...people learn things differently. I can explain the same thing to two people in the same way but they will walk away with something different. The human mind is too complex to make everyone the same, or to reach perfrct quality. But there are areas that can be improved.

Now I'm kind of ranting so I'm going to click post before I go off on another tangent.

 

[Zzuxon]

Equality is never attainable, but it can get better. I got screwed on the cost of college because my family wasn't poor enough for me to qualify for additional financial aid (even though I was the one paying for it), and my parents werent rich enough to actually pay for my college. So now I have 80,000 USD left in loans, and I'm almost 5 years in paying them with monthly payments of 920 USD a month. I have another 10 years to go before I'll finish paying them off. That system is sooo messed up in America. I went to an expensive school...but they 100% met my financial aid requirements so it ended up being 17-23,000 a year.

At the same time, perfect equality is never going to be attainable. People have bias, people have their quirks. People will like or hate you for sometimes reasons outside of your control (you will remind them of someone)...people learn things differently. I can explain the same thing to two people in the same way but they will walk away with something different. The human mind is too complex to make everyone the same, or to reach perfrct quality. But there are areas that can be improved.

Now I'm kind of ranting so I'm going to click post before I go off on another tangent.

College is so expensive because of governments attempt to create "equality" through subsidies. When government is offering that much money to people, colleges realize that they can raise prices without losing customers. To do otherwise would just be leaving money on the table.
No other industry gets more expensive without a change in quality over time, that isn't how markets work. Except the education market, which has been twisted and tortured by government meddling, creating the kind of problem they wanted to solve. Which is typical of this sort of thing, I think.

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

Equality is never attainable, but it can get better. I got screwed on the cost of college because my family wasn't poor enough for me to qualify for additional financial aid (even though I was the one paying for it), and my parents werent rich enough to actually pay for my college. So now I have 80,000 USD left in loans, and I'm almost 5 years in paying them with monthly payments of 920 USD a month. I have another 10 years to go before I'll finish paying them off. That system is sooo messed up in America. I went to an expensive school...but they 100% met my financial aid requirements so it ended up being 17-23,000 a year.

At the same time, perfect equality is never going to be attainable. People have bias, people have their quirks. People will like or hate you for sometimes reasons outside of your control (you will remind them of someone)...people learn things differently. I can explain the same thing to two people in the same way but they will walk away with something different. The human mind is too complex to make everyone the same, or to reach perfrct quality. But there are areas that can be improved.

Now I'm kind of ranting so I'm going to click post before I go off on another tangent.

In other words, this is bigger than your typical First World Problems.

Meanwhile things like gas and bills are still high as ever for most people as a result of the economy. Who's to say things will be different when Trump wins the election? We all know that he won't be losing any time soon.

 

[Zzuxon]

In other words, this is bigger than your typical First World Problems.

Meanwhile things like gas and bills are still high as ever for most people as a result of the economy. Who's to say things will be different when Trump wins the election? We all know that he won't be losing any time soon.

I don't think Trump is electable in the general election.
My only hope is that Cruz can win the primary. He's the only candidate currently running that I don't hate. I wish that Kasich would just drop out, then Cruz would have a shot.

 

[Pazzo.]

Survival of the Fittest is an old idea.

Really, it's Survival of the Adaptable.

We wouldn't have inferiority if nature "dictates" that only the strong live, rather, those who can roll with the punches last longer.

 

[ChikoLad]

I went and made my pledge since they put up a new reward tier that best fitted me.

I only have one person to go with me so far but I think I could get another.

If anybody else happens to be going, let me know if you wanna meet up.

 

[CrusherMania1592]

Am I the only one here who is not comfortable with Camilla's character? She reminds me of my mother with the over-protectiveness, it's disturbing

So guys, what do you think gonna happen with the amiibos that are co---

Anybody want some amiibo diorama's?

Well Nintendo of Japan has started making them
https://www.nintendo.co.jp/amiibo/diorama/index.html#kirby\

I wonder if the wet will get them.

I don't think I'm even gonna pass on this lmao

 

[Pazzo.]

Camila means well, but I think the overprotectiveness is built into as a dual-edged aspect of the character, loyal to a creepy fault.

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

So I've decided to count the number of states dominated by each of the candidates (Democrat and Reblican) with some interesting results.

Trump's got a whooping 18 states under his belt compared to Cruz's 10. Clinton has her hefty 18 states with Sanders closing in with his 15. While things may seem close, both Trump and Hilary beat their competition with more deligate support. This is going to be one of the closest presidential races in a while.

 

[ChikoLad]

These teases never stop do they?

Though I'm not sure if this page is official. I know PSN has a Costa Rica based website though.

Blegh.