Social Swamp's Social Thread 3 - And now, the end is near, and so I face the final curtain...

[A Distant Demon]

"'Anonymous' targets Donald Trump"

Definitely not a news article title i would expect to see.

 

[Kirby Dragons]

'Beat Ganon'

I am now picturing Ganon with sunglasses, headphones and a boom box on one shoulder...

What, you didn't imagine Ganon + Mega Man Beat instead?

 

[Burruni]

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/hulk-hogan-gets-115m-verdict-876768

So Hulk Hogan won his lawsuit against Gawker who has to fork over 115m. Which I find to be karma working out considering the horribly evil things their employees did over the years. Also they owned Kotaku too so they're going to be impacted in some way too.

I think I hear the beginning of the end of Kotaku.

(I really just wanted an excuse to post these)

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I think I hear the beginning of the end of Kotaku.

(I really just wanted an excuse to post these)

"Mmmm...That's a nice scream Jojo"
This is ****ing Kars' taunt pose in Jojo allstar battle

 

[Z25]

Am I the only one losing to Shadow Mewtwo or is it suppose to be that way?

I don't have pokken yet, but I hear it's suppose to be a tough fight.

Considering how much Fates tries to make you feel bad for choosing Nohr, I agree with the changes
If the player makes a decision, it should be up to them to regret it or not

I honestly didn't feel bad for siding with Nohr. Yes there's consequences, but by the end, it all makes sense and the outcome of the war was accepted by everyone. Playing through birthright though is interesting. The only good person I want to make marry corrin is kagero. The others are alright.

And who is naming these characters? Subzuki looks like a girl but isn't, Hinata is guy with a girl's name. I thought Azama was a old lady but apparently not. What is with the Hoshidian style?

Also spoilers for Chapter 9, and 10 and the ending to Conquest:

Spoiler

Do you actually get to use Zola? And it's interesting that takumi was still possessed but is freed by Azura. And that old lady in Chapter 10 is a beast. She murdered all the dark pegasuses!

Ages ago I was interested in the idea of δ Delta Species Pokémon in the main games. But this is a pretty wild theory and the Holon region doesn't completely describe the land of Hawaii.

I know it probably won't happen but I thought it was neat. And the region wouldn't need to be holon.

Easy work around:

Evil team ends up creating Deltas with these magic crystals based on research done in Holon, an ancient region from long ago that first recorded these delta species. Be an interesting way to merge the card game into the real games a bit, like they have been trying with the anime.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Oh yeah Cutie Gwen , I already saw the video, it's a great counter argument video about YW not being a PKMN ripoff.

Glad someone stood for what's right.

 

[Wario Bros.]

Man I've forgotten how strong the "new controller smell" can be and this Pokkén Pro Pad has reminded me so.

 

[Chandeelure]

Hey guys, I have some question.

Can I put Miiverse drawings in my Mario Maker level? How?
Can the other people see them? Can the other people put drawings in them too?

I'm making a level and I would like to decorate it with drawings, and also put some messages (because writing with coins looks weird),

 

[Swamp Sensei]

"'Anonymous' targets Donald Trump"

Definitely not a news article title i would expect to see.

Kind of old actually.

Not sure what they can do against Trump though.

 

[ChikoLad]

Hey guys, I have some question.

Can I put Miiverse drawings in my Mario Maker level? How?
Can the other people see them? Can the other people put drawings in them too?

I'm making a level and I would like to decorate it with drawings, and also put some messages (because writing with coins looks weird),

I know it's definitely possible but I honestly can't remember how. :\

Maybe try going on r/supermariomaker and asking there.

 

[Schnee117]

Kind of old actually.

Not sure what they can do against Trump though.

Release a bunch of personal information and take down his website.
That's really all that comes to mind.
Wonder if they could go further though.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Release a bunch of personal information and take down his website.
That's really all that comes to mind.
Wonder if they could go further though.

Trump doesn't strike me as the guy to keep that kind of stuff online...

Trump is a smart guy.

And that is why he's a problem.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Trump doesn't strike me as the guy to keep that kind of stuff online...

Trump is a smart guy.

And that is why he's a problem.

idk man, I've seen stuff about an actor on a tv show which kids liked being in a gay porn

 

[Swamp Sensei]

idk man, I've seen stuff about an actor on a tv show which kids liked being in a gay porn

I have no way to respond to this.

This is the most sincere WTF in my life.

 

[Deleted member]

I honestly didn't feel bad for siding with Nohr. Yes there's consequences, but by the end, it all makes sense and the outcome of the war was accepted by everyone. Playing through birthright though is interesting. The only good person I want to make marry corrin is kagero. The others are alright.

And who is naming these characters? Subzuki looks like a girl but isn't, Hinata is guy with a girl's name. I thought Azama was a old lady but apparently not. What is with the Hoshidian style?

Also spoilers for Chapter 9, and 10 and the ending to Conquest:

Spoiler

Do you actually get to use Zola? And it's interesting that takumi was still possessed but is freed by Azura. And that old lady in Chapter 10 is a beast. She murdered all the dark pegasuses!

That's my point, Corrin constantly has second thoughts about siding with Nohr when almost no players would do that
It is a huge disconnect that really pisses me off

Subaki is literally a gender bent Cordelia from Awakening
His daughter is named Caeldori and you can pretty much guess how she looks by the name
I'm pretty sure Hinata is a gender neutral name, otherwise there is no reason for him to be named like that
Azama is clearly a guy though, wtf
Also, I love how Kagero has jiggle physics, not even Camilla has it

Spoiler

No, you never get to use Zola
I kinda like the characterization they give to him in BR though, and I was disappointed he was just in one chapter in Conquest

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I have no way to respond to this.

This is the most sincere WTF in my life.

What makes it funnier/WTF-ier is how in an anniversary, they made alternative dimensions of said series. This actor was the only one from the modern era to reprise his role, even in the video games. Original, beloved cast? Nah, too much money. The one who was in a gay porn? 10/10 must hire. Later in the franchise, an actress quit for reasons unclarified, though apparently she was suffering major harassment from the staff, she was a major character, but still left, and retired from the entertainment industry recently iirc. The most recent case was that an actress had leaked nudes, which also confirmed she had cosmetic surgeries,

 

[Burruni]

That's my point, Corrin constantly has second thoughts about siding with Nohr when almost no players would do that
It is a huge disconnect that really pisses me off

Subaki is literally a gender bent Cordelia from Awakening
His daughter is named Caeldori and you can pretty much guess how she looks by the name
I'm pretty sure Hinata is a gender neutral name, otherwise there is no reason for him to be named like that
Azama is clearly a guy though, wtf
Also, I love how Kagero has jiggle physics, not even Camilla has it

Spoiler

No, you never get to use Zola
I kinda like the characterization they give to him in BR though, and I was disappointed he was just in one chapter in Conquest

Kagero's are in a simple cloth.
Camilla's is reinforced.
The question is why doesn't Orochi

 

[Deleted member]

Apparently they referenced Smash Bros in Pokkén:

Look at the bottom right.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Kagero's are in a simple cloth.
Camilla's is reinforced.
The question is why doesn't Orochi

Orochi just glued chopped melons on her flat chest, that's why

 

[Burruni]

"Mmmm...That's a nice scream Jojo"
This is ****ing Kars' taunt pose in Jojo allstar battle

And Disgaea had an entire skill dedicated to be a Michael Jackson reference of the Zombie line since Disgaea 3.
Japan is odd in their choices of american references.

 

[Deleted member]

Kagero's are in a simple cloth.
Camilla's is reinforced.
The question is why doesn't Orochi

I mean, they have done so much fanservice without good reason so I'm kinda surprised
Like, have you seen female Nohr Noble's model?

Orochi just glued chopped melons on her flat chest, that's why

Is this salt I taste?

 

[Deleted member]

And Disgaea had an entire skill dedicated to be a Michael Jackson reference of the Zombie line since Disgaea 3.
Japan is odd in their choices of american references.

I think Jojo ranks high in that regard of out-of-the-blue references to western media.
There's an episode of JJBA (the episode is called "Justice, Part 1") in which Polnareff literally references Tom and Jerry.

He specifically says "He looks like the Cartoon cheese you'd see in Tom & Jerry"! He could have said Swiss cheese, but nope, he called it "Cartoon cheese from Tom & Jerry".The episode later references James Bond and The Beatles, just to top it off.


Oh, and then there's stuff like this in the manga:

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I mean, they have done so much fanservice without good reason so I'm kinda surprised
Like, have you seen female Nohr Noble's model?

Is this salt I taste?

How about you read my soul?

Spoiler

 

[Burruni]

I think Jojo ranks high in that regard of out-of-the-blue references to western media.
There's an episode of JJBA (the episode is called "Justice, Part 1") in which Polnareff literally references Tom and Jerry.

He specifically says "He looks like the Cartoon cheese you'd see in Tom & Jerry"! He could have said Swiss cheese, but nope, he called it "Cartoon cheese from Tom & Jerry".The episode later references James Bond and The Beatles, just to top it off.


Oh, and then there's stuff like this in the manga:

I mean.
It's not like almost every stand ever after Part 3 was named after a western band or song.

Edit: Hell, the musical references with Jo-Jo go back to Part 1.
Robert. Edward. O. Speedwagon.

 

[Deleted member]

*browsing Fates character TV Tropes page*

Spoiler

"Mundane Utility: Word Of God in an interview states that he[Leo] uses Brynhildr to grow tomatoes for himself and for others (they're also his favorite food, as noted above)."
Haha, you and your tomato feti--

"While it's quite funny to think about, it also serves to remind of the sad reality that Nohr's lands are too infertile to produce crops, tomatoes included"
Oh...

 

[Cutie Gwen]

*browsing Fates character TV Tropes page*

Spoiler

"Mundane Utility: Word Of God in an interview states that he[Leo] uses Brynhildr to grow tomatoes for himself and for others (they're also his favorite food, as noted above)."
Haha, you and your tomato feti--

"While it's quite funny to think about, it also serves to remind of the sad reality that Nohr's lands are too infertile to produce crops, tomatoes included"
Oh...

...How is it mundane then? If anything, it's one of the most useful things in this scenario

 

[Z25]

That's my point, Corrin constantly has second thoughts about siding with Nohr when almost no players would do that
It is a huge disconnect that really pisses me off

Subaki is literally a gender bent Cordelia from Awakening
His daughter is named Caeldori and you can pretty much guess how she looks by the name
I'm pretty sure Hinata is a gender neutral name, otherwise there is no reason for him to be named like that
Azama is clearly a guy though, wtf
Also, I love how Kagero has jiggle physics, not even Camilla has it

Spoiler

No, you never get to use Zola
I kinda like the characterization they give to him in BR though, and I was disappointed he was just in one chapter in Conquest

See I never played FE till Fates Really. I know a decent amount of characters though. I did play awakening up until the chapter at the Colosseum. I played it because my older brother had downloaded it onto his DS and wanted me to try the series. Said DS got lost and I never brought awakening. I will eventually though. Anyway
The gender bent thing is something they sort of made up as references I guess. which isn't to bad, the characters are still cool.
And I don't know on Hinata, when I saw the name, I could only think of Naruto lol.
I honestly couldn't tell Azama's gender xD.

Kangero is pretty nice for that, personality, and fighting wise. Her and felica are shruiken masters this run.
Oh and

Spoiler: Chapter 12 Birthright

Just did the intro here, R.I.P. Zola. I liked his character, it was interesting to portray him as someone who struggles with Loyalty.

Apparently they referenced Smash Bros in Pokkén:

Look at the bottom right.

Captain Falcon for Pokken?

 

[Deleted member]

...How is it mundane then? If anything, it's one of the most useful things in this scenario

"Awesomeness put to mundane use"
Growing tomatoes is something mundane, as in, normal for us, not something like the fantastical use of killing people with trees or shooting people with sword beams

 

[Cutie Gwen]

"Awesomeness put to mundane use"
Growing tomatoes is something mundane, as in, normal for us, not something like the fantastical use of killing people with trees or shooting people with sword beams

For US, yes, but for Nohr, it's a necessity

 

[Deleted member]

"'Anonymous' targets Donald Trump"

Definitely not a news article title i would expect to see.

I feel the opposite, honestly. That sounds like the most generic news article of 2016.

Trumps been everywhere and Anonymous has been targeting plenty of troublemakers as of late.

But, I'd like to see them try. As much as I dislike Trump(Mainly because of his attitude and ego, some of the stuff that he wants isn't so bad. Well.... Not stuff like building a wall anyway.), the way his run has gone, it seems to be true.... You can't stump the trump.

 

[Deleted member]

For US, yes, but for Nohr, it's a necessity

But the trope is from our perspective too

 

[ChikoLad]

So while I have been loving Pokkén's mechanics from my playtime with it, in a discussion trying to defend the game on another forum, I did agree with the nay-sayer to the game on one aspect, and I wanted to see what other people think. Here's my interpretation of said issue.

That being said, I don't think the mechanics are perfect. I have a pretty big issue with it actually.

My main issue with the mechanics is that, while I do acknowledge that Phase Shifting is partly a combo breaker mechanic, there is a problem with that - Phase Shifting is controlled by the player already in the advantage. This means that, if a player learned what moves comboed into each other well without causing a Phase Shift, they could feasibly pull off extremely long combos in Duel Phase (the main phase for combos) that deal a ton of damage and don't cause a shift to the Field Phase, and the player being attacked can do absolutely NOTHING about it (counters only work when you are out of hit stun and anticipating an attack, they don't break you out of hitstun). This means the competitive meta for this game is going to be dominated by whichever character can combo the best without causing Phase Shifts, and I can see that getting stale REAAAL fast. In my own playtime, I discovered that Pikachu's uppercut move in the Duel Phase, combos into itself FOUR TIMES, about SIX TIMES if you can drag them into the wall in the process. This does not cause a Phase Shift at any point since the move isn't one that causes shifts, and is as simple as repeatedly pressing Forward + Y in a rhythm, and the opponent caught in this can't do a damn thing to escape.

I think there is a relatively simple fix for this, though I doubt it will be added. The Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm games (the Field Phase in Pokkén Tournament is directly inspired by how the NUNS games play) have a "Substitution Jutsu" mechanic that allows a character being caught in a combo, to easily escape said combo at the press of a button. However, this uses up a limited resource (varies from game to game, some games had a gauge specifically for it, others had it so that it depleted a chunk of your Chakra gauge, which is used for special moves normally). The fact you need a resource to perform this technique, means you couldn't spam it, and in some cases, it was wiser to be conservative and not use it on every single combo you are caught in, but to eat combos early on so you still have a chance to use your specials, and only use this technique when you were desperate.

I think Pokkén could easily adopt a similar mechanic. I think you should be able to use a derivative of counter moves while being caught in a combo, that makes your opponent that's attacking you flinch, stopping their combo, and then pushes you back away from them. Doing this simply returns both players to neutral and doesn't do any damage, so the player that was performing the combo never gets screwed over. And so it isn't spammable, using this technique costs a good chunk of your Synergy Gauge, meaning using it too much punishes you in that your opponent is going to reach Burst Mode before you do, and of course, you need a minimal amount of Synergy to perform this combo breaker in the first place.

Overall though, I guess we'll have to see how the meta truly develops.

 

[Deleted member]

(varies from game to game, some games had a gauge specifically for it, others had it so that it depleted a chunk of your Chakra gauge, which is used for special moves normally).

All games use chakra for it, from Generations onward, they just added the gauge but it still costs chakra
Before, you had to time it correctly(which I honestly liked mord as how the gauge fills up is really inconsistent)

But on the topic of Pokken, is there really no way to escape out of combos?

 

[Cutie Gwen]

All games use chakra for it, from Generations onward, they just added the gauge but it still costs chakra
Before, you had to time it correctly(which I honestly liked mord as how the gauge fills up is really inconsistent)

But on the topic of Pokken, is there really no way to escape out of combos?

...Why do you know this much about Naruto?

Counter attacks seem to be the only thing, but they can't be done too quickly from what I saw. They'll definitely patch something

 

[Deleted member]

...Why do you know this much about Naruto?

Counter attacks seem to be the only thing, but they can't be done too quickly from what I saw. They'll definitely patch something

Because I like the Storm games and it makes me remember how it was good before it became ****
Seriously though, Part 1 was great and Shippuden did well until the Pain Arc

 

[ChikoLad]

All games use chakra for it, from Generations onward, they just added the gauge but it still costs chakra
Before, you had to time it correctly(which I honestly liked mord as how the gauge fills up is really inconsistent)

But on the topic of Pokken, is there really no way to escape out of combos?

Nope. Like I said, this game's combo breaking mechanic is in the hands of the player performing the combo. I'm sure I don't even need to explain how that is a huge oversight.

...Why do you know this much about Naruto?

Counter attacks seem to be the only thing, but they can't be done too quickly from what I saw. They'll definitely patch something

Counters don't break combos. They work like a typical counter in Smash. You can use it when you are anticipating an attack, but you can't use it when you are already in hitstun.

Difference is, in Smash, sometimes you fly too far and can recover from tumble, and try to retaliate against your opponent. In Pokkén, you can't do absolutely anything until you are out of hitstun, which only happens when you crumple on the ground (where you are intangible for a brief moment and can roll away). If you are kept in the air, there is nothing you can do unless your opponent initiates a Phase Shift.

 

[Ura]

Everything in Naurto Shippuden irked me after the first 2 arcs. Especially that last Arc in the series.

 

[Deleted member]

I remember once upon a time when i actually liked Naruto, and i saw potential in that series.

Then the series took........a turn for the worst in my opinion.

 

[ChikoLad]

I enjoy aspects of Naruto and I don't enjoy other aspects.

I won't praise it as the best thing ever but I also won't be a pretentious snob and pretend I'm better than you if you are a huge fan, like a lot of the anime fandom does.

 

[Deleted member]

My opinion on Naruto: I've never read or watched it.

Just like every other anime, since I lack anytime..... Well..... Except for one I just watched the first episode for last night.... Which was the weirdest anime I've ever seen.... So I just had to watch at least one episode.