Social Swamp's Social Thread 3 - And now, the end is near, and so I face the final curtain...

[A Distant Demon]

Bayonetta 3 would show stuff that implies Dante'd get curbstomped

You can't base an outcome on evidence that doesn't exist :/

 

[ChikoLad]

Never died because I don't suck *bronze overall* Nope, don't suck

That's not what contradiction means, but okay...
Fans can point out 'Hey, no explanation? wtf' but for al we know, Bayonetta 3 would show stuff that implies Dante'd get curbstomped

No, it can be a contradiction of known facts depending on the circumstances. For example, the creator of Superman can't just randomly say "Superman is actually immune to kryptonite" without actually releasing a product that creates that scenario, when all material up to that point says otherwise.

And you don't count unreleased/unfinished products. It's not canon until the game/product is safely completed and out at retail. Until that point, it doesn't exist.

 

[Aetheri]

That episode was a tribute for Monty Oum and Samus had something like that in Haloid so she could Sword fight with Kelly.

I was aware of Monty Oum's Haloid which is why I said everyone...that was forgivable because that short movie was pretty fan-servicey as a whole not to mention it took cues from movies possibly to make the animations a lot easier, which is something Monty Oum has done a lot with his fan-films....but DB doesn't really have an excuse because we're looking at abilities characters use in their games not from fan-fiction...if Samus has a light saber then why are we not getting a Metroid game where Samus runs around in her Zero suit slicing and dicing, instead of her using her next to useless laser? (this actually sounds awesome not gonna lie)

Also, Z targeting gave Link an advantage because lol liberties, Cloud does the same ****ing thing in Dissidia iirc
Zamus' whip is hard to animate, that's why iirc

I guess that makes sense, however...she never used a whip in canon either....it was implemented in Smash just to make her a more balanced fighter...

People keep forgetting her gun is actually almost useless, and just for defense...it's a glorified taser...

 

[Cutie Gwen]

No, it can be a contradiction of known facts depending on the circumstances. For example, the creator of Superman can't just randomly say "Superman is actually immune to kryptonite" without actually releasing a product that creates that scenario, when all material up to that point says otherwise.

And you don't count unreleased/unfinished products. It's not canon until the game/product is safely completed and out at retail. Until that point, it doesn't exist.

That example doesn't work because saying Superman is immune to it CONTRADICTS something established in canon. Dante losing from Bayonetta contradicts NOTHING.
And by that I meant 'For all we know, Bayo 3 could end up doing that'

 

[Schnee117]

I was aware of Monty Oum's Haloid which is why I said everyone...that was forgivable because that short movie was pretty fan-servicey as a whole not to mention it took cues from movies possibly to make the animations a lot easier, which is something Monty Oum has done a lot with his fan-films....but DB doesn't really have an excuse because we're looking at abilities characters use in their games not from fan-fiction...if Samus has a light saber then why are we not getting a Metroid game where Samus runs around in her Zero suit slicing and dicing, instead of her using her next to useless laser? (this actually sounds awesome not gonna lie)

Smus vs Boba remastered was done as a tribute to Monty after he died. The Lightsaber was a little something to reference some of his work and then they had the dance bit at the end. That's the reason why she had it for that battle.

 

[ChikoLad]

That example doesn't work because saying Superman is immune to it CONTRADICTS something established in canon. Dante losing from Bayonetta contradicts NOTHING.
And by that I meant 'For all we know, Bayo 3 could end up doing that'

It can contradict it if it's clear it can't happen given the facts of both franchises.

I'm not saying it is the case here but I could see DB trying to find something that does actually make Kamiya's statement seem less well thought out.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

It can contradict it if it's clear it can't happen given the facts of both franchises.

I'm not saying it is the case here but I could see DB trying to find something that does actually make Kamiya's statement seem less well thought out.

DB thinks it's fair to make liberties. Captain America doesn't have his pistol, Link becomes athletic with Z targeting, Toph suddenly has no problem with controlling large amounts of sand grains, etc.

 

[Schnee117]

Captain America doesn't have his pistol

The thing is Cap rarely ever uses a weapon aside from his Shield. He really only used guns in WW2 and even then his Shield was more prominent.

 

[A Distant Demon]

Dante losing from Bayonetta contradicts NOTHING.

Which is why Death Battle intends to do research to see if this rings true.

If Dante's feats were more impressive than Byonetta's (frankly from what i've heard about her that seems unlikely) then yes it would contradict canon AND word of god.

 

[Aetheri]

Smus vs Boba remastered was done as a tribute to Monty after he died. The Lightsaber was a little something to reference some of his work and then they had the dance bit at the end. That's the reason why she had it for that battle.

Fair enough...

The outcome was literally the exact same as the original anyways, right down to the final blow...though in reality Samus stands no chance against Boba without her Power Suit...

 

[Cutie Gwen]

The thing is Cap rarely ever uses a weapon aside from his Shield. He really only used guns in WW2 and even then his Shield was more prominent.

Yet it's still something he used, if Link gets everything every incarnation of Link could have, then why can't something similar apply here?

 

[ChikoLad]

DB thinks it's fair to make liberties. Captain America doesn't have his pistol, Link becomes athletic with Z targeting, Toph suddenly has no problem with controlling large amounts of sand grains, etc.

.....And?

That doesn't really have anything to do with what I said.

If you're trying to say "LOOK AT ALL OF THESE TIMES DB WAS WRONG THEY CAN'T EVER BE RIGHT"...yeah, that really has no relation to what I'm saying. Plus, while they definitely aren't perfect, they definitely can get some things right.

Again, if you just give a statement with no explanation and it isn't obviously true (i.e. grass is green), then people can potentially find flaws in it. I don't know if that's the case with Kamiya's statement, but I could see DB trying to see if there is something Kamiya might have missed.

 

[Champ Gold]

I like Death Battle but man they have some massive screw ups like Zelda vs Peach, basing Donkey Kong off of the cartoon that Nintendo doesn't even recognize, limiting Cloud's Arsenal and the massive bias in Yang vs Tifa AKA watch our big advertisement for RWBY because ScrewAttack and Rooster Teeth are owned by the same company

 

[Cutie Gwen]

.....And?

That doesn't really have anything to do with what I said.

If you're trying to say "LOOK AT ALL OF THESE TIMES DB WAS WRONG THEY CAN'T EVER BE RIGHT"...yeah, that really has no relation to what I'm saying. Plus, while they definitely aren't perfect, they definitely can get some things right.

Again, if you just give a statement with no explanation and it isn't obviously true (i.e. grass is green), then people can potentially find flaws in it. I don't know if that's the case with Kamiya's statement, but I could see DB trying to see if there is something Kamiya might have missed.

That's...Not what I meant. What I meant was saying DB of all people would be able to see if Word of God is invalid is bull as they love making liberties

 

[Schnee117]

Yet it's still something he used, if Link gets everything every incarnation of Link could have, then why can't something similar apply here?

Bull****.
Link had the Master Sword, Hylian Shield, Pegasus Boots (not in the 3d games), Hero's Bow, Boomerang and Hookshot (Not in every game either).
He didn't use any of the hammers, no slingshot, no Deku Leaf, none of the rods and no capes
They brought up 10 generations of experience which makes some sense due to the reincarnation thing.

 

[Deleted member]

Everybody would lose to Saitama anyway .

Seriously though, Death Battle (and Screw Attack) isn't really that good in my personal view.

 

[BandanaWaddleDee]

Man, this week has been awesome.
I got Fire Emblem Fates Conquest
I have enough money for Birthright
I bought the Mega Man Legacy Collection
Had 5 tests and I did good on all of them.
Pokemon Sun and Moon (Pokemon S&M ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)) were revealed.
And I am currently eating waffles.
Also new avatar for Sonic and Pokemon's anniversary.
Btw I'm back.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

I cant wait for Mighty No. 9 to come out and then a death battle between Mega Man and Beck to be declared. And then, despite Inafune saying Beck would defeat Mega Man, one obscure Manga where Mega Man has a nanobot killing weapon would be dug out and more flamewars.

 

[Deleted member]

Death Battle is cool because the battles are well animated
Otherwise, it's all a bunch of bad research put together

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Bull****.
Link had the Master Sword, Hylian Shield, Pegasus Boots, Hero's Bow, Boomerang and Hookshot.
He didn't use any of the hammers, no slingshot, no Deku Leaf, none of the rods and no capes
They brought up 10 generations of experience which makes some sense due to the reincarnation thing.

You know what I mean. If 1 Link can have something used by different incarnations, Captain America should damn well be allowed to use something he used in the past, especially as DB do a ****ton of research in some areas, i.e. Raiden VS Wolverine, and Spiderman VS Batman, the that research only did anything in the former

I like Death Battle but man they have some massive screw ups like Zelda vs Peach, basing Donkey Kong off of the cartoon that Nintendo doesn't even recognize, limiting Cloud's Arsenal and the massive bias in Yang vs Tifa AKA watch our big advertisement for RWBY because ScrewAttack and Rooster Teeth are owned by the same company

In DK vs Knuckles, they also based him off of the Boom incarnation. And to be fair, Yang's semblance is an outright counter to Tifa, though statistically, I think Tifa would sooner win

 

[ChikoLad]

That's...Not what I meant. What I meant was saying DB of all people would be able to see if Word of God is invalid is bull as they love making liberties

Yeah no that still comes across as more or less the same thing as what I felt you were saying.

You're saying they are incapable of finding holes in Word of God just because they take some liberties. That isn't exactly true at all. Not everything they have done has taken liberties, and even if it did, they most likely do it for cinematic effect anyway (remember, this is just a silly show made by some silly nerds, nothing to get serious about - they are pretty clear about how they make their own rules and scenarios that influence the outcome of these fights). It doesn't cancel out their ability to focus squarely on what's canon. I'm sure they can do that for the franchises they are truly knowledgeable in.

Whether or not that applies to DMC and Bayonetta, remains to be seen.

 

[Wolfie557]

I hope Bayonetta wins.

I feel her games are the best of thier genre. Plus her abilities are amazing.

She has enough power to

Spoiler

make a huuuuugggeeee goddess hurl across the entire solar system and into the sun.

After the other tweets I thought it would be someone from Zelda so um I was disapointed by it had to be Dante Vs Bayonetta.

This better be a very close yet fair fight with no Peach vs Zelda bull.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Bored
http://strawpoll.me/6946225
DeeSee or Mahvel?

 

[BluePikmin11]

http://gonintendo.com/stories/253000-rumor-the-motherload-of-nx-rumors-surface-hardware-ability-s
At this rate, the NX is bound to be entirely leaked. o____o

 

[A Distant Demon]

http://gonintendo.com/stories/253000-rumor-the-motherload-of-nx-rumors-surface-hardware-ability-s
At this rate, the NX is bound to be entirely leaked. o____o

What the hell?

The info comes from Geno

Dude we get it, you didn't get into smash. But this is taking it too far.


EDIT
Thi ssounds nice too
"- one 3rd Party dev says 'It’s the easiest device we’ve ever developed for. You just take your code, compile it and it works.' "

Although that is probably too good to be true.

 

[Wolfie557]

OMG ITS BEAUTIFUL IM SO HYPED.
Just watched the actual video.
I hope that Gomorahh tease Does NOT mean Dante escapes just in time and kills Bayo while she nake'd. That's dumb.

Hoping for Witch Time action too!

 

[Deleted member]

**** Chapter 24
**** flying units
And **** Hinoka
The last stretch of chapters don't give you a single chance to rest

 

[Schnee117]

http://gonintendo.com/stories/253000-rumor-the-motherload-of-nx-rumors-surface-hardware-ability-s
At this rate, the NX is bound to be entirely leaked. o____o

closest in terms of “power” to the Xbox One

And let the internet over-react in 3...2...1...

And **** Hinoka

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

 

[Deleted member]

EDIT: sorry, double post. Pls delete

 

[BluePikmin11]

According to NeoGaf, the source is never correct, so I guess the rumor is fake.

 

[Champ Gold]

http://gonintendo.com/stories/253000-rumor-the-motherload-of-nx-rumors-surface-hardware-ability-s
At this rate, the NX is bound to be entirely leaked. o____o

>System is easy to port over games


Hot damn, that means I can get all fighters, sports games and whatever Platinum makes on there with little to no porting issue.

This is damn perfect but hat NintendoOS scares the hell out of me

 

[Cutie Gwen]

http://nintendoeverything.com/sakurai-on-smash-bros-wii-u3ds-dlc-stages-and-mii-fighter-outfits/2/
Oi @PushDustIn does this match your translation? Because if so, they're being ***** to SG again

 

[Wolfie557]

Guys. I think I know why Bayonetta will loose.

She got sunburnt. Like that's some major tan right there.

 

[AwesomeAussie27]

How to spy a Dragon Ball Z fanboy

"Screwattack screwed over Goku and Buu. Therefore, Cartoon Fight Club does better research into their fights."

Perfect. :^)

 

[Cutie Gwen]

How to spy a Dragon Ball Z fanboy

"Screwattack screwed over Goku and Buu. Therefore, Cartoon Fight Club does better research into their fights."

Perfect. :^)

Who are Cartoon Fight Club and what have they done that's worse?

 

[Curious Villager]

I just caught Mew in Pokemon Yellow, I wonder if it can be transferred over to Pokemon Sun and Moon....

 

[AwesomeAussie27]

Who are Cartoon Fight Club and what have they done that's worse?

Cartoon Fight Club is more of series done by one teen with minimal experience with great animation. But the amount of research he puts into some characters are good (if not better than) as Death Battle. He has a knack for some strange match ups and landing dancing in his fights. Though the only downside is that some of them can be extremely one sided at times like Bill Cipher vs. anyone or the Meme related fights. The main charm come storm the fact that he allow fans to vote for a rematch with a different turnabout when things get tough.

 

[ChikoLad]

Who are Cartoon Fight Club and what have they done that's worse?

I watched their Rosalina VS Silver the Hedgehog fight and that was all I needed to see to know they are pure crap.

>Completely undersells Rosalina and she basically doesn't get to do anything
>Completely oversells Silver to make it seem one-sided
>Can't even get basic details like Rosalina's age and stuff right
>This animation tho

Also why do they spend more time punching and kicking rather than using their powers? Especially Rosalina, it's just so random.

Here's the video anyway. It's stupid and I hate it but people might get a laugh out of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpwt8FjfcWI

 

[Bananija]

Cartoon Fight Club is more of series done by one teen with minimal experience with great animation. But the amount of research he puts into some characters are good (if not better than) as Death Battle. He has a knack for some strange match ups and landing dancing in his fights. Though the only downside is that some of them can be extremely one sided at times like Bill Cipher vs. anyone or the Meme related fights. The main charm come storm the fact that he allow fans to vote for a rematch with a different turnabout when things get tough.

>Go on the channel
>Found this thing :

Why? Why did anyone thought this was a good idea? Because that guy is a genius!

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

I'll just be honest, Cartoon Fight Club is only good when it comes to the lolsy meme fights. His other match ups aren't too bad, but they rely too much on randomness that distracts from the fight or forces gross out gags (Sans vs Bill's Weirdmageddon will give me nightmares for weeks).

His Mario, Sonic, Gravity Falls, anime, manga, and FNAF fights are great. But the others are pretty forgettable IMO.