Social Swamp's Social Thread 3 - And now, the end is near, and so I face the final curtain...

[Swamp Sensei]

So...

Now that Street Fighter V has been out a while...

Thoughts?

 

[Strider_Bond00J]

So...

Now that Street Fighter V has been out a while...

Thoughts?

The launch of the game is and has been heavily contested. True, the game is out, and people are able to play with it 24/7. Perfect if you want to be the new Daigo Umehara and take on the competitive world through tourneys and EVO. However, for the casual Street Fighter fan, there's not a lot to do in terms of being able to play on your own, such as the arcade, Player VS CPU...

We've got a small roster that we know will get bigger eventually. But while there are a lot of familiar faces that we all want to see - (Q and Remy, pls), I'd personally love to see what new faces could be introduced to the world of Street Fighter. Rashid and F.A.N.G are my personal newcomers so far, but out of 16, there's room for more exploration. Australian fighter or even perhaps trying to slightly revive Darkstalkers with someone like Demitri, Morrigan or Hsien-Ko would be cool. Batsu? One day...

That said - in relation to the actual launch and release, it could have been a lot better. I'll repeat an earlier remark and say that it probably could have done with perhaps another month or two in development so that arcade and PVC could have been added to make it easier for the casual SF fan (which I'd classify myself as) to continue to play. Perhaps adding in Alex and one last newcomer to make it 18 or perhaps 20 would be great for a big budget launch.

Overall, the gameplay itself is solid for PVP, but it's perhaps noteworthy that Capcom wanted this game out sooner rather than later. One would be better off getting it at a much cheaper price, and by then more content would have been added. While I haven't engaged the story personally, there has been mixed reception to the cutscenes - are they rushed; or was Bengus trying a new medium; or both? We've also got a lot to explore in the story, if the story mode so far is just a teaser.

Launch score: Probably between 6.7 to 7.5 in terms of scores, after my personal thoughts and looking at both sides of the arguments for SFV. Hopefully as the year goes on, this score would become something akin to an 7.5 to 8.3 or something.

As for Pokemon Day - the 27th of February (Australian time zone), I just caught Zygarde and Mewtwo in Y and downloaded Yellow. This afternoon I tried to get some Pokemon Badges from Badge Arcade, getting all but Gengar in the first round, but completely failing and getting a rabbit's foot... Then just sit around and laugh at Markiplier's videos on this game called 'Turbo Dismount,' which I'd love to play for myself, seeing all the carnage Marki got up too.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

I realise, Game Freak wants to make sure Pokemon feel like creatures rather than just data packets which is why they go to such lengths to make sure that you can't easily duplicate them. So it makes sense that you can't create restore point and just trade then reload fore easy duplication.

What I don't get is them removing suspension. The Wii was able to do that with NES and SNES games no bother.

 

[Deleted member]

I hate to break it to you.
Raptors have been discovered to have had feathers since Jurrasic Park first came out.

Doesn't mean I'll accept them

So a bunch of actually awful things just fall on me....Actually this entire day has just be awful.Let's just say things in the past started to show up and i kinda have to leave the site for an undetermined amount of time.Guess you cant always run away from problems.I know i was never really someone "of note" in this group but i do see alot of you as friends and i hope some of you do to.But i would like to tell some people in practical for being just well awesome people.

@zoroark25 @Champ Black @AreJay25 @Akxareth @CyberHyperPhoenix and @Zoroarking (m̶y̶ ̶t̶r̶u̶e̶ ̶l̶o̶v̶e̶) for just being some of the nicest people i met online.Your some cool people and i wish you the best in future and i mean that.Sorry if this seems small not good with goodbyes

A Distant Demon @Naoshi @aldelaro5 @HyperIrene @PushDustIn @Kokonoe and @IntelliHeath1 for all the laughs,discussions, and randomness at the discord chat.Really i enjoyed every part it,so thanks for letting me be there.Cant say ill be there as much as i am now but ill try to stop in when i get the chance.

Swamp Sensei even though i dont think we were the bestest friends.Cant say i wont miss you. Opossum for blanchin in a mansion at the gravity falls group.And everyone else i came across in my time here.Really um was a really fun ride.I'lll try to be around during E3 if not.I'll catch you when i can.Thanks!

Aww, you're making me blush
But whatever is happening in your life but I hope thongs turn out okay
Also, remember

Eh.

X,Y, OR,AS are harder when you use the EXP Share like you're supposed to.

And raise twenty guys in one go.

I did that in AS and the game became much more fun.

Same
I played Y for the first time without it and it just felt like standard stuff honestly

Fire Emblem Question: Can the 5 hits of Astra Crit and/or proc offensive skills like Luna or Sol?

As said before, no
But all of them can crit and in Fates, all of them will count as a hit for the Defense Stance meter

 

[Frostwraith]

@Awesomedude4444 is leaving?

Well, best of luck in your life and hopefully everything gets resolved.

Also...

 

[Wolfie557]

The Warlight (online multiplayer Risk game) theme is actually REALLY good for a browser/android game.

edit:skip the wierd start...

 

[powerprotoman]

hello darkness my old friend ive come to you to talk again

 

[Bedoop]

hello darkness my old friend ive come to you to talk again

Not Dorf Patrol
0/10

 

[Cutie Gwen]

hello darkness my old friend ive come to you to talk again

*Dante*
RIP the outcome, Kamiya said enough

 

[Burruni]

As Ryugie stated, this one's already set.

By the word of the creator of both.

This is a 100-0 Match Up in Bayonetta's favor.

 

[Schnee117]

As Ryugie stated, this one's already set.

By the word of the creator of both.

This is a 100-0 Match Up in Bayonetta's favor.

Least the match'll look cool and actually be a fight instead of being a dull case of a Zelda character being curb stomped.

 

[Burruni]

Least the match'll look cool and actually be a fight instead of being a dull case of a Zelda character being curb stomped.

Yo I still stand by my idea of a full DBZ arc of vs
Actual Bayonetta vs Ganondorf
Flight Mode vs Beast Ganon
Madama Butterfly vs OoT Ganon

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Least the match'll look cool and actually be a fight instead of being a dull case of a Zelda character being curb stomped.

They used Zelda's Smash incarnation in Peach VS Zelda iirc, Zelda ALWAYS loses then

 

[Bedoop]

Plus if you watch the trailer for that Death Battle
We see Hair Demon Avocado "E for Everyone" Gomora Final Smash guy about to have some Din Dins
When Dante is completely off-guard
So if that isn't how DMC Man died, then I just don't know anymore

 

[Schnee117]

Yo I still stand by my idea of a full DBZ arc of vs
Actual Bayonetta vs Ganondorf
Flight Mode vs Beast Ganon
Madama Butterfly vs OoT Ganon

I see that as only being dull.
Dante would actually make the fight fun to watch instead of a snooze fest because Zelda characters are pathetic in comparison to Bayonetta.

They used Zelda's Smash incarnation in Peach VS Zelda iirc, Zelda ALWAYS loses then

Zelda CHARACTER

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I see that as only being dull.
Dante would actually make the fight fun to watch instead of a snooze fest because Zelda characters are pathetic in comparison to Bayonetta.



Zelda CHARACTER

I know, but I took it as an opportunity to talk about that BS round

 

[Bedoop]

They used Zelda's Smash incarnation in Peach VS Zelda iirc, Zelda ALWAYS loses then

They give Zelda what she has in Smash and only what she has in Smash
Meanwhile they give Peach;

• Smash
• Mario RPG
• Strikers Charged
• Because of her Pure Heart, complete immunity to Zelda's most powerful move

Among Others

DoIsenseflavoritism?
Possibly.

 

[Roaring Salsa]

Plus if you watch the trailer for that Death Battle
We see Hair Demon Avocado "E for Everyone" Gomora Final Smash guy about to have some Din Dins
When Dante is completely off-guard
So if that isn't how DMC Man died, then I just don't know anymore

A boss in DMC4 actually did that same thing to Dante and then he just opened the monster's mouth really easily

It'll be a great fight, but as always I expect salt

 

[Burruni]

I mean...
There's the Yang vs Tifa Death Battle.
Which from the start I said
"This should be incredibly one sided and just be an excuse to have the team try to do an HD recreation of the Knights of the Round animation."

 

[Cutie Gwen]

They give Zelda what she has in Smash and only what she has in Smash
Meanwhile they give Peach;

• Smash
• Mario RPG
• Strikers Charged
• Because of her Pure Heart, complete immunity to Zelda's most powerful move

Among Others

DoIsenseflavoritism?
Possibly.

Y'know, with Zelda, DB shows favoritism regardless. Link: Given a huge ass bunch of his best equipment. Cloud? One of his weakest weapons in the game

 

[Bedoop]

Honestly the most "Fair" Death Battle was Goomba VS Koopa
Not only because it's 2 low-down minions so it's probably as fair as you can get
*Cough* Kirby VS Buu was probably the least fair *Cough*
But they also actually took the liberty of HELPING one another when they're about to get shot by Bullet Bills instead of fighting over who gets to NOT be the Meat Shield

Plus they both died in the end because their Minion Stupidity
So that's pretty cool

 

[Schnee117]

Honestly the most "Fair" Death Battle was Goomba VS Koopa
Not only because it's 2 low-down minions so it's probably as fair as you can get
*Cough* Kirby VS Buu was probably the least fair *Cough*
But they also actually took the liberty of HELPING one another when they're about to get shot by Bullet Bills instead of fighting over who gets to NOT be the Meat Shield

Plus they both died in the end because their Minion Stupidity
So that's pretty cool

That's a funny way of saying Segata Sanshiro vs Chuck Norris

 

[A Distant Demon]

A reminder i need to play batonetta AND a reminder i need to play from the devil may cry series in the same fight

Death Battle please ;_;

 

[ChikoLad]

If Kamiya has said that Bayonetta would win, I'm going to assume:

A) Dante will win in DB because they feel they have found a flaw in Kamiya's reasoning (and before anyone says "WORD OF GOD IS ABSOLUTE", that doesn't count if one can find a logic hole because some creators are a bit silly sometimes, lol).

B) They will acknowledge Kamiya's statement as true but will find a really situational scenario where Dante wins.

C) Neither of the above, but Dante still wins because lol Death Battle.

D) Bayonetta wins.

E) They both decide to stop fighting, acknowledge each other's strength, and do the business instead because both are sex symbols of their respective sex.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

If Kamiya has said that Bayonetta would win, I'm going to assume:

A) Dante will win in DB because they feel they have found a flaw in Kamiya's reasoning (and before anyone says "WORD OF GOD IS ABSOLUTE", that doesn't count if one can find a logic hole because some creators are a bit silly sometimes, lol).

B) They will acknowledge Kamiya's statement as true but will find a really situational scenario where Dante wins.

C) Neither of the above, but Dante still wins because lol Death Battle.

D) Bayonetta wins.

E) They both decide to stop fighting, acknowledge each other's strength, and do the business instead because both are sex symbols of their respective sex.

How can word of god be invalid?

 

[Substitution]

How can word of god be invalid?

Well, everyone has a different interpretation of how this fight will end up. And Kamiya too is just a spectator much like the rest of us.

The only one who has any "real" power over this are the Death Battle team themselves. They alone hold who's gonna win.

 

[A Distant Demon]

How can word of god be invalid?

People call sakurai a liar all the time

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Well, everyone has a different interpretation of how this fight will end up. And Kamiya too is just a spectator much like the rest of us.

The only one who has any "real" power over this are the Death Battle team themselves. They alone hold who's gonna win.

But when you are heavily involved with BOTH characters, then you have the outcome, DB is filled with bias aswell if the salt in literally every episode ever is any indication

 

[Aetheri]

Its funny in regards to death battle regarding Link and Zelda...
-should've lost (as much as I like Link he won't be able to beat Cloud...Link's only chance I feel is as the Fierce Deity even then though)
-Zelda does little to no actual fighting in any of the games outside of Smash (which uses abilities that someone else uses) and Hyrule Warriors (which wasn't even out at the time of her DB)...so there's no actual way to tell how powerful she really is...
In other words we need an actual Zelda game where Zelda is the main protagonist for once...Peach got several playable roles outside of spin-offs as a result she had a lot more to work with...

Also vs Master Cheif when? A match-up people care more about than Boba Fett and Doomguy...And if they're going to do Batman twice so why not?...both of these characters won their first DB's so they could even follow DB cannon if they wanted...

And why does everyone keep giving a light saber?

 

[Schnee117]

But when you are heavily involved with BOTH characters, then you have the outcome, DB is filled with bias aswell if the salt in literally every episode ever is any indication

The salt is literally people that can't handle the character they want to win losing.
See: Both Superman vs Goku fights.

And why does everyone keep giving a light saber?

That episode was a tribute for Monty Oum and Samus had something like that in Haloid so she could Sword fight with Kelly.

 

[Substitution]

But when you are heavily involved with BOTH characters, then you have the outcome, DB is filled with bias aswell if the salt in literally every episode ever is any indication

Still, a lot can change with a second opinion. Hell even a creator can forget a few things every now and then that they pick up.

But that's just me.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Its funny in regards to death battle regarding Link and Zelda...
-should've lost (as much as I like Link he won't be able to beat Cloud...Link's only chance I feel is as the Fierce Deity even then though)
-Zelda does little to no actual fighting in any of the games outside of Smash (which uses abilities that someone else uses) and Hyrule Warriors (which wasn't even out at the time of her DB)...so there's no actual way to tell how powerful she really is...
In other words we need an actual Zelda game where Zelda is the main protagonist for once...Peach got several playable roles outside of spin-offs as a result she had a lot more to work with...

Also vs Master Cheif when? A match-up people care more about than Boba Fett and Doomguy...And if they're going to do Batman twice so why not?...both of these characters won their first DB's so they could even follow DB cannon if they wanted...

And why does everyone keep giving a light saber?

Also, Z targeting gave Link an advantage because lol liberties, Cloud does the same ****ing thing in Dissidia iirc
Zamus' whip is hard to animate, that's why iirc

 

[ChikoLad]

How can word of god be invalid?

When it contradicts the logic presented in their own creation.

It's why plot holes are thing.

A creator can theoretically just charge ahead with whatever BS idea they want, even if it doesn't make sense, but this usually results in people hating their creation or feeling it's devalued because rather than writing something interesting and explaining it thoroughly, your creation is boiled down to what you say regardless of reasoning. It makes the audience get detached.

I mean, sure, if a creator makes an ass pull, then it's canon, but people will still call it out and it spoils the integrity of the story.

With something like Kamiya saying "who would win" between his two characters, well, if he literally just said "Bayonetta would win" and nothing else, than that still leaves room for people to prove him wrong if that statement has holes in it.

Now I'm not saying Kamiya is wrong - I don't care much for either character currently and don't completely know what they can do - but I was just saying I could see DB trying to prove Kamiya's statement wrong with the info in his own games, if they read the statement, and if they feel they have found a solid reason.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

When it contradicts the logic presented in their own creation.

It's why plot holes are thing.

A creator can theoretically just charge ahead with whatever BS idea they want, even if it doesn't make sense, but this usually results in people hating their creation or feeling it's devalued because rather than writing something interesting and explaining it thoroughly, your creation is boiled down to what you say regardless of reasoning. It makes the audience get detached.

I mean, sure, if a creator makes an *** pull, then it's canon, but people will still call it out and it spoils the integrity of the story.

With something like Kamiya saying "who would win" between his two characters, well, if he literally just said "Bayonetta would win" and nothing else, than that still leaves room for people to prove him wrong if that statement has holes in it.

Now I'm not saying Kamiya is wrong - I don't care much for either character currently and don't completely know what they can do - but I was just saying I could see DB trying to prove Kamiya's statement wrong with the info in his own games, if they read the statement, and if they feel they have found a solid reason.

But saying 'X would beat Y' wouldn't leave contradictions... Sure, Dante can get stabbed on a daily basis, but Bayonetta survived being in the ****ing sun. I think you're moreso looking at bad writing if anything

 

[Schnee117]

Bayonetta survived being in the ****ing sun.

Yet you die if she touches the lava/magma in Bayonetta.

 

[ChikoLad]

But saying 'X would beat Y' wouldn't leave contradictions... Sure, Dante can get stabbed on a daily basis, but Bayonetta survived being in the ****ing sun. I think you're moreso looking at bad writing if anything

But it can leave contradictions. It's a statement without reasoning.

In this particular instance, it may not be the case, but in general, if you just say "X beats Y" and nothing else, no explanation given, then if that statement wasn't thought out properly or the creator forgot some kind of detail when saying it, then fans can easily point that out.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Yet you die if she touches the lava in Bayonetta.

She doesn't really die, moreso 'Ow, can't get out, Witch magic to teleport out'

 

[Schnee117]

She doesn't really die, moreso 'Ow, can't get out, Witch magic to teleport out'

Yeah no you actually do die if you touch it when it's chasing you in the town.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Yeah no you actually do die if you touch it when it's chasing you in the town.

Never died because I don't suck *bronze overall* Nope, don't suck

But it can leave contradictions. It's a statement without reasoning.

In this particular instance, it may not be the case, but in general, if you just say "X beats Y" and nothing else, no explanation given, then if that statement wasn't thought out properly or the creator forgot some kind of detail when saying it, then fans can easily point that out.

That's not what contradiction means, but okay...
Fans can point out 'Hey, no explanation? wtf' but for al we know, Bayonetta 3 would show stuff that implies Dante'd get curbstomped

 

[Roaring Salsa]

Kamiya mentioned he wants to do a DMC x Bayonetta game, so that could possibly answer many questions if it's ever done