Social Swamp's Social Thread 3 - And now, the end is near, and so I face the final curtain...

[Coricus]

I feel like the 3DS/Wii U should've been handled differently...

some features were left out of the Wii U because of the 3DS's limitations and likely because of the extra time needed to port shared content, Ice Climbers for example, Break the Targets I felt was left out due to time as it requires time to create a separate stage for each character...

The 3DS version I felt should've been a stand alone Smash game, didn't need to have 50+ fighters but at least it wouldn't seem like it held back another version of the game, which could handle more than it could...

during the ESRB leak I always thought that some characters like Duck Hunt and Bowser Jr. would've been 3DS exclusive while more characters, including the Ice Climbers, would've been added to the Wii U since content in every other aspect of the game wasn't fully shared between the two...and the more simplified single player would've been a better fit for a handheld...

I love that it's on a handheld but after getting the Wii U version I rarely ever play the 3DS unless I go out an about, but since I'm usually busy doing something or driving I don't really get much of an opportunity to actually play it, and while at home I have the Gamepad, soo...

Honestly the idea of exclusive characters just bothers me a lot. I mean, if a character was kept out of a weaker version because only the stronger version could handle them then maaaaayyyyybe I would understand, but actively keeping characters in separate versions just for the sake of having marketing bait just utterly rustles my jimmies. Imagine if your most wanted and your second most wanted ended up on separate versions, or your main and your most used secondary. It just creates a whole lot of issues.

And I don't really see how creating two completely different versions of the game saves time. It sounds like it would just waste a whole lot more of it.

 

[Depressed Gengar]

All honesty I probably would have stuck with the 3DS and never would have bothered with the Wii U if I was in charge of Smash 4's development. A portable Smash game sounds far more interesting and refreshing for the series than an HD one. Plus development would be a hell of a lot less expensive if work was only done on one console, especially if said console was the 3DS.
Of course, that's not the only difference I'd do with Smash 4's development, but that's a story for another day.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Next years poll I'm going to post the poll only on SSF2-specific places, I don't think I can handle this much rigging. So if you're legitimately an SSF2 fan/player, go to the Mcleodgaming Forums next time.

 

[Champ Gold]

I can play Smash on 3DS while in a airplane

I can't do that with the Wii U. So it wasn't a mistake

 

[Frostwraith]

during the ESRB leak I always thought that some characters like Duck Hunt and Bowser Jr. would've been 3DS exclusive while more characters, including the Ice Climbers, would've been added to the Wii U since content in every other aspect of the game wasn't fully shared between the two...and the more simplified single player would've been a better fit for a handheld...

While you make some good points, allow me to address this part of your post:

1. Nintendo and Sakurai have always emphasized that the roster would be identical in both versions, ever since the game's first trailer back in 2013.

2. Sakurai did emphasize that the Wii U version would be more multiplayer-oriented, whereas the 3DS one would be tailored for single-player/individual experiences. Most of Wii U's single-player modes feature co-op options, sometimes up to 4 players, a step up from Brawl, which only allowed co-op for 2 players. 3DS's multiplayer options are much more limited compared to the Wii U version's, only having Smash mode and co-op for two players solely for Multi-Man and All-Star.

 

[NintenZ]

I'm perfectly fine with a handheld Smash game, I'm just concerned about things like local play, hardware limitations, and developmental problems... Otherwise I'm just fine with it...

I can play Smash on 3DS while in a airplane

I can't do that with the Wii U. So it wasn't a mistake

Yeah my wording was a bit... Off... It's been edited since...

2. Sakurai did emphasize that the Wii U version would be more multiplayer-oriented, whereas the 3DS one would be tailored for single-player/individual experiences. Most of Wii U's single-player modes feature co-op options, sometimes up to 4 players, a step up from Brawl, which only allowed co-op for 2 players. 3DS's multiplayer options are much more limited compared to the Wii U version's, only having Smash mode and co-op for two players solely for Multi-Man and All-Star.

Oh it was meant for single player... Well then I take back everything I said about it... Obviously there's an appeal for both...

 

[Metal Shop X]

Here are the poll results for SSF2's Character Poll after a month of votes: @McLeodGaming @IamMuah #SSF2 The top 20:

In a alternate world, maybe, just maybe, Count Bleck would have been at the top of this poll. And it would have been a better choice than Daisy.
...
But in another timeline....

 

[NintenZ]

In a alternate world, maybe, just maybe, Count Bleck would have been at the top of this poll. And it would have been a better choice than Daisy.
...
But in another timeline....

Honestly... Almost any choice is better then Daisy...

 

[Metal Shop X]

Honestly... Almost any choice is better then Daisy...

Atleast Count Bleck would have been a Mario character that make more sense, (Wtih Fawful, Waluigi and Dimentio.) than Daisy.
In fact, Popple would have been a better character than Daisy if we only count Mario games.
#Popple4Smash

 

[NintenZ]

Atleast Count Bleck would have been a Mario character that make more sense, (Wtih Fawful, Waluigi and Dimentio.) than Daisy.
In fact, Popple would have been a better character than Daisy if we only count Mario games.
#Popple4Smash

Goombella would be a better choice for a Mario character then Daisy... No seriously...

 

[Metal Shop X]

Goombella would be a better choice for a Mario character then Daisy... No seriously...

Even Tippi would have been a better character than Daisy!
Yeah! I say it! Freaking Tippi, i'm 200.00% serious.

 

[Con0rrrr]

I'm gonna take a wild guess at who was involved with Daisy vote manipulation....

 

[A Distant Demon]

Goombella would be a better choice for a Mario character then Daisy... No seriously...

1. Hyperbole are fun
2. For someone who is acti g like they hate daisy you sure do spend a lot of time in the daisy thread

 

[Frostwraith]

I present you proof that the Wii U version is made with local multiplayer in mind a lot more than the 3DS version.

Local multiplayer options for the Wii U version:
- Smash
- Special Smash
- 8-Player Smash
- Smash Tour
- Classic (2-player co-op)
- All-Star (2-player co-op)
- Event Matches (2-player co-op)
- Multi-Man Smash (up to 4-player co-op)
- Home-Run Contest (2-player co-op, up to 4 players competitive)
- Target Blast (2 player co-op)
- Two players can play online locally
- Training has the option to have the AI players be controlled by other players

Local multiplayer options for the 3DS version:
- Smash
- Smash Run
- All-Star (up to 2 players)
- Multi-Man Smash (up to 2 players)

No contest.

 

[Solfiner]

#Torrential Downpour is even more gold now that we know Fates' sales numbers!

"Nuh uh, it wasn't a boycott, it was an awareness call!1!"

Yeah, okay.

 

[Aetheri]

Honestly the idea of exclusive characters just bothers me a lot. I mean, if a character was kept out of a weaker version because only the stronger version could handle them then maaaaayyyyybe I would understand, but actively keeping characters in separate versions just for the sake of having marketing bait just utterly rustles my jimmies. Imagine if your most wanted and your second most wanted ended up on separate versions, or your main and your most used secondary. It just creates a whole lot of issues.

And I don't really see how creating two completely different versions of the game saves time. It sounds like it would just waste a whole lot more of it.

I don't particularly like it either...that's just what I thought was going to happen initially...but once again I want to stress how I thought the 3DS should've been handled differently than just a handheld port of the Wii U (well actually vice versa since the 3DS came first)...I felt like too many compromises were made to accommodate both systems...

 

[NintenZ]

1. Hyperbole are fun
2. For someone who is acti g like they hate daisy you sure do spend a lot of time in the daisy thread

I like her fanbase... And I don't hate the character, I just don't want her in Smash because of a thing that I'm not really aloud to talk about...

You know exactly what I'm referring to.

 

[Frostwraith]

#Torrential Downpour is even more gold now that we know Fates' sales numbers!

"Nuh uh, it wasn't a boycott, it was an awareness call!1!"



Yeah, okay.

Because petting anime girls is clearly cultural exchange, right?

 

[Swamp Sensei]

I like her fanbase... And I don't hate the character, I just don't want her in Smash because of a thing that I'm not really aloud to talk about...

You know exactly what I'm referring to.

I think you just want validation, dude.

 

[Bedoop]

Here are the poll results for SSF2's Character Poll after a month of votes: @McLeodGaming @IamMuah #SSF2 The top 20:

@memoryman3 is there something you would like to tell the Classroom?

 

[Rebellious Treecko]

The Pokemon direct will feature Pichu as the true last DLC fighter for Smash Bros 4.

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[Deleted member]

Someone did it, alright, moving on

Spoiler

I like her fanbase... And I don't hate the character, I just don't want her in Smash because of a thing that I'm not really aloud to talk about...

You know exactly what I'm referring to.

Not wanting a character because of someone is one of the most childish things I've ever heard
It's fine if you don't want them but have an actual reason instead of it being because someone annoyed you

 

[Frostwraith]

The Pokemon direct will feature Pichu as the true last DLC fighter for Smash Bros 4.

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I wouldn't even be mad, to be honest.

(At least, people would stop complaining about Pokémon having as many characters as FE...)

 

[Chandeelure]

The Pokemon direct will feature Pichu as the true last DLC fighter for Smash Bros 4.

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That would be awesome.

Pichu > Wolf

 

[A Distant Demon]

@memoryman3 is there something you would like to tell the Classroom?

People who are super banned can't tell much.

 

[NintenZ]

Not wanting a character because of someone is one of the most childish things I've ever heard
It's fine if you don't want them but have an actual reason instead of it being because someone annoyed you

Well that's a bit conclusive...

I didn't even say the reason for why I didn't want her, only that I wasn't aloud to talk about it.

I can say what it is, I'm pretty sure I won't get into that much trouble.

 

[Coricus]

The Pokemon direct will feature Pichu as the true last DLC fighter for Smash Bros 4.

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Well, if you look at the new Nintendo President's credentials, it DOES land squarely into Pichu bias territory. . .

 

[FalKoopa]

As someone who likes Daisy, hearing the mindless hate gets old really fast. Why is it a cool thing to do, exactly?

 

[Bedoop]

People who are super banned can't tell much.

Wait, really?
This, I did not know.

The Pokemon direct will feature Pichu as the true last DLC fighter for Smash Bros 4.

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I'd buy it.

 

[Metal Shop X]

The Pokemon direct will feature Pichu as the true last DLC fighter for Smash Bros 4.

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You know, after all Sakurai have done with this game. It wouldn't even surprise me and i won't be even mad.
Really, it would just be normal to me.
(Even tough i would prefer Grovyle from Pokemon Dungeon Mystery)

 

[Deleted member]

Well that's a bit conclusive...

I didn't even say the reason for why I didn't want her, only that I wasn't aloud to talk about it.

I can say what it is, I'm pretty sure I won't get into that much trouble.

We aren't allowed to talk about banned users and you brought said user up last time there was a Daisy discussion
So stop denying it unless you can prove me wrong

The Pokemon direct will feature Pichu as the true last DLC fighter for Smash Bros 4.

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It would be funny because all those crazy theories would be correct with the exception of which character it is

 

[BluePikmin11]

You can check the full results here:
http://www.poll-maker.com/poll545852x6A62F6A9-23

 

[Bedoop]

As someone who likes Daisy, hearing the mindless hate gets old really fast. Why is it a cool thing to do, exactly?

I freaking love Daisy for more reasons than I can count on my fingers
But seeing Daisy with Double the votes of #2 is just
"Off"
Per se.

 

[NintenZ]

We aren't allowed to talk about banned users and you brought said user up last time there was a Daisy discussion
So stop denying it unless you can prove me wrong

Alright then, yes, one of the reasons was because he was bothering me about her, and even made alt accounts just so that he could ask me, but I have other reasons, like how I don't think she's worthy compared to other Mario characters, or doesn't really have enough to stand out from Peach.

There are multiple reasons a person can think something.

And I don't hate Daisy, I just don't think she should be in Smash before other Mario characters...

 

[Coricus]

As someone who likes Daisy, hearing the mindless hate gets old really fast. Why is it a cool thing to do, exactly?

I don't know, but as a Tails fan, I can pretty much sum up my opinion with a single meme.

Spoiler

Once people get a fandom stereotype into their heads, they never stop being jerks. Ever.

 

[A Distant Demon]

Why is it a cool thing to do, exactly?

Hating things on the internet is always cool. It's just the way the world works.

Why Daisy specifically? Probably memes. I'm sure there is another reason but my Memory is a bit foggy.

 

[Chandeelure]

I've noticed that hating K.Rool is starting to become a meme too.

Just like Ridley.

 

[Deleted member]

http://www.siliconera.com/2016/02/24/etrian-odyssey-v-listed-3ds-title-survey-atlus/
Oh look
At this rate, maybe they will release a trailer by the end of the year
Just maybe

like how I don't think she's worthy compared to other Mario characters, or doesn't really have enough to stand out from Peach.

Wait, this a reason you don't like her?
How does not wanting her in Smash=not liking the character?

 

[NintenZ]

Wait, this a reason you don't like her?
How does not wanting her in Smash=not liking the character?

For the last time, I don't hate her, I just don't think she's good enough for Smash...

 

[A Distant Demon]

I've noticed that hating K.Rool is starting to become a meme too.

Just like Ridley.

You mean King R Kool?

Wolf is a bit of a joke too with the "shoo-in" stuff.

I'm a Ridley fan and I know how it feels. . . so I wouldn't wish such a fate to any other fanbase.