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Social Swamp's Social Thread 3 - And now, the end is near, and so I face the final curtain...

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Kurri ★

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sonicbrawler182 said:
I pretty much agree with the whole thing being said about minority characters.

The only thing I have to add, and it's not necessarily related to minority characters, is that yeah, speculation/headcanons can be a bad thing when done wrong. I've seen it happen plenty of times, where "headcanons" become too accepted when they aren't actually true, and the general perception of the character becomes warped as a result.

As I've said before, a headcanon is not a headcanon if it isn't well backed up by official material, and if it's been flat out said it can't be the case by an official source (like the creator of the character). "Samus is trans" isn't and cannot be a headcanon because nothing about her character suggests it, and it's already been flat out said that it can't be the case by someone deeply involved with the character's portrayal. If you seriously believe Samus is trans and want to stick with that regardless of official material, then you have a fanon - essentially a made up version of what the character is.

People seem to not understand this distinction and get upset when you tell them they can't headcanon something, thinking it's mean, but it's not. You can't just make up anything you want about a character and call it a headcanon. That's just how it is. If people understood this, far less characters would be misunderstood and misrepresented in fan-art and what not.
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What are you talking about? Headcanon is legit just another word for fanon. They're one and the same.
 
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The word head canon means

It's canon only in the head of that person

Otherwise it'd just be straight up canon

Edit: Actually there might be a difference between headcanon and fanon

I believe headcanon can be something that only an individual believes

But fanon is what a community of people believe

Both without specific sources from the creator to back them up
 
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Kurri ★ said:
What are you talking about? Headcanon is legit just another word for fanon. They're one and the same.
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No they aren't, there is a reason the two different words exist.

Fanon is something that's made up with no relation to official canon, and isn't supported by it. It's like a "fan-made canon". Hence the name being a play on the words "fan" and "canon". Fan fiction counts as fanon, for example.

Headcanon is an idea a single person may have, but it's based on official canon (usually to fill in some sort of hole they feel exists in a characterisation). It's not official, but it's derived from official material in a direct manner. Depending on how solid the headcanon is and how it is spread, it can become widely accepted in the fandom. Headcanon also tends to become official canon at some point, often times in on going stories.
 
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PsychoIncarnate said:
Did you update the game?

The update adds the feature to speed up the enemy turn

The original game without the update doesn't. It was that slow

That's part of the reason it got bad reviews
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Oh no I didn't realise that. I'll check.

I also wish there was an overhead map, but that's kinda why it's unique. If I get the fast forward patch I'll probably enjoy it much more.
 
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sonicbrawler182 said:
No they aren't, there is a reason the two different words exist.

Fanon is something that's made up with no relation to official canon, and isn't supported by it. It's like a "fan-made canon". Hence the name being a play on the words "fan" and "canon". Fan fiction counts as fanon, for example.

Headcanon is an idea a single person may have, but it's based on official canon (usually to fill in some sort of hole they feel exists in a characterisation). It's not official, but it's derived from official material in a direct manner. Depending on how solid the headcanon is and how it is spread, it can become widely accepted in the fandom. Headcanon also tends to become official canon at some point, often times in on going stories.
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I really don't believe there's a difference, but I don't really care to argue over semantics.
 
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Blegh, I wish it wasn't a Pokemon Direct. It think they should have saved that for later.

We desperately need news for games like Star Fox.

But I'll watch anyway, since it might have stuff on Pokken and Detective Pikachu.
 
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kylexv said:
Pokemon Direct on Friday!
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Surprisingly Early for a Direct...too bad its STILL happening while I work...

inb4 announcement of Danny Devito to voice Detective Pikachu upon localization...
 
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For a 5 minute direct can we even call it a direct anymore or is it just a trailer? :p

I just hope this doesnt become the norm. :lol:
 
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Fumi-Chan! said:
Interesting, a Pokemon Direct, will it be that Pokemon Rainbow leaks have been showing recently?


Maybe, depends on the situation really TBH.
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I mean if they want to push Yo-Kai Watch I think a direct would be a smart thing to do.
 
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At 5 minutes what's it gonna be?

"Pokemon Z, Houndooms! We Out!" *mic drop*
 
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Here's the direct for reference.
I was thinking that if Ninty wants to push it, a direct would be a smart thing to do.
 
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Nintenzilla said:
That's really short, what could they possibly confirm in that amount of time?
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31 Seconds long
Completely out of nowhere
Hoenn Confirmed


If they can generate hype in 31 seconds
I think 5 minutes is good
 
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Let me point out that 5 minutes is a fair amount of time for 2 or even three trailers...

Pokken fighter reveals were only about a minute long...not saying we will get a new fighter announced or not....but if they reveal a 2 or 3 minute trailer for Pokemon Z/XY2/AZ/Rainbow/XYZ/ or whatever... they can still include other news...

regardless if we'll get a new fighter or not I think we will be getting some pokken news as well...
 
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