Emblem Lord
The Legendary Lord
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Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo HD REMIX
- Thread starter Grunt
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Dreadz18x
Smash Ace
XBL : Rudebwoy64
get at me.
get at me.
Mith_
Smash Champion
I'm glad they made Gief's throws easier :D That 270 was too hard to pull of. (I play ST with a ps2 controller, that may have something to do with it ha ha.)
Gory snake
Smash Journeyman
XBL Gamertag: GorySnake.
I use a variety of characters, but I'd say my main would be E. Honda. Jab Headbutt and tick Ochio's are beastly!
And by the way, this game is the sex
I use a variety of characters, but I'd say my main would be E. Honda. Jab Headbutt and tick Ochio's are beastly!
And by the way, this game is the sex
SirroMinus1
SiNiStEr MiNiStEr
Xbl
Z3RO K1d
Z3RO K1d
Miztik
Smash Master
playing this pumped me up so much for street fighter 4
cant wait
cant wait
metaXzero
Smash Champion
So how was Sagat in this game. Still as spammy?
OneWingSephiroth
Smash Journeyman
HD Sagat can still barrage you with Tiger Shots, it's just that his he gained 4 frames more recovery (almost similar to his HF version), and his hit boxes on his arms are like N. Sagat's so it's easier to punish it now. However, be careful, a well played HD Sagat can and will bring the ****. So he's still a very strong character in this game, however he's just not O. Sagat good in this game. He's still at the absolute "worse" Upper-Tier in this game, so he's still a contender, HD:Remix is really balanced, almost "near" Hyper Fighting level of balance.
His Tiger Knee's hurt in here though.
His Tiger Knee's hurt in here though.
metaXzero
Smash Champion
I just remembered. Their were claims that despite all the nerfs, Akuma was still ban-material. Is that true?
Mith_
Smash Champion
Shouldn't be really. I thought they balanced him out in every other game he was in?
KosukeKGA
Smash Champion
<.< Could someone explain to me what exactly a Reversal is?
Sadly, it is. (Sort of.)
But there is good news.
http://www.capcom-unity.com/jimmyrey/blog/2009/01/28/patch_for_sf_hd_remix_is_in_the_works
Hopefully Akuma will be tweaked a little in this patch.
Minato
穏やかじゃない
I can't really explain it well in my own words, so I'm going to just paste what the SRK wiki says.
A reversal is defined as any time you go from a non-neutral state directly into a move (normal, special, super, or throw), without ever going to neutral state. A non-neutral state is any state that your opponent inflicts on you: block stun, hit stun, getting up after being knocked down, dizzy, or being knocked out of the air.
Easiest example: your opponent knocks you down, and as you're getting up, you time a DP perfectly so that it comes out on the first frame possible. You never go to neutral state - you go directly from getting up animation to DP animation. You get a reversal message, and 1000 points! (Note that you only get a reversal message for specials and supers.)
You can always do a reversal, no matter what your opponent is doing. Even if your opponent is doing a meaty attack to you as you land or as you get up, you can still reversal. Because throws are zero-frame (read: they have no start-up), a reversal throw will beat a meaty. Reversal throws can be used to escape things such as Boxer's [throw, walk under, meaty cr.Forward, throw] loop. (Throw him as you land, while he is trying to do the meaty cr.Forward.)
And there you have it.
Dreadz18x
Smash Ace
akuma's no longer ban material
we should have a SWF HD Remix Tourney
we should have a SWF HD Remix Tourney
Minato
穏やかじゃない
That sounds good. Too bad the games on two consoles, though. Plus I suck on the 360 controller.
I'm still waiting until the TE stick is released.
Dreadz18x
Smash Ace
i main vega so i dont really mind the 360 controller but a 2 console tourney could work....
SirroMinus1
SiNiStEr MiNiStEr
i find it disrespectful when people don't attack when they dazed there opponent.
Grunt
Smash Master
Post it on Sirlin so people actually get the joke at the end.
Minato
穏やかじゃない
LOL
Now I know the key to beating Ryu with Guile. This'll surely improve my mindgames.
Mith_
Smash Champion
that was lol vulcan.
Mith_
Smash Champion
Grunt
Smash Master
EDIT:
I saw that a long time ago.
It was barely warranted back then, but more Akuma's have been winning since, and his advantages are much more clear.
I saw that a long time ago.
It was barely warranted back then, but more Akuma's have been winning since, and his advantages are much more clear.
OneWingSephiroth
Smash Journeyman
Banning him ='s NO.
If we went throughout CvS2 fighting against Blanka...and seriously...Blanka had like NO bad match ups in there. I swear, he either broke even or else, had an advantage or completely dominated in that game. Another game as well that needs to be mentioned was Tekken 4...Jin dominated that game with more fury and fear then what Gouki has done so far in HD:Remix. There where matches in Tekken 4, to where I saw Jin players do absolutely nothing but 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, and occasional JFLS for good measure, anyone who was 10-framers and who wasn't called Steve Fox (you had to be a **** good Steve Fox player at that) had almost no answer to it.
How about SFIII:NG...what about Ibuki...Infinity anyone??? That girl dominated that game with an absolute iron fist, and completely mopped the floor with the competition, nobody could combo to her potential, nobody could do stun damage potential to her lvl with that consistency and nobody else had an infinity that was so easy to do as well.
What about CE. Bison...unlike Gouki, Bison could kill you with one connected attack Low poke, scissor kick what not, he dizzy and re-dizzy combos that where super easy and super effecient to do...just imagine your winning the round...and Bison lands one connected scissor kick or low poke, lol, ocved, you lost the round. CE. Bison's options were more potent and dangerous then anything Gouki has shown in HD:Remix to this very point. Gouki in HD to me is simply a very powerful character when used right, I only know a select few who can play Gouki to his potential (damdai for one), however even Damdai doesn't blow out solid players in this game, he really has to work his Gouki to win, and yes, he loses even when playing as Gouki.
I have never, ever understood the ban Gouki even at srk.com, simply because Gouki hasn't stopped other characters from winning tournaments, and Gouki isn't so over the top that he has made everyone else unplayable to this point, I mean, I don't see consistently 8+ top seeded Gouki's placing in tournaments, I may see one Gouki player winning a tournament, or within the Top 3, but not multiple. I have however back in the CE days, seen multiple CE. Bisons taking the Top 8, and without a doubt, I have seen multiple Jin's take the Top 8 during Tekken 4...in fact, in one Evo tournament, like 5 out of the top 8 finishers where Jin...and the Top 3 where all Jin players.
As I said, I've always been scratching my head on this notion, because there have been characters who have been just as powerful as Gouki in their respective game, and in some cases, even more powerful, and yet they where never ever banned. The only thing on Gouki that really needs to be modified a bit would be his Raging Demon...since the invincibility on it is too good, other then that, I don't mind the rest.
If we went throughout CvS2 fighting against Blanka...and seriously...Blanka had like NO bad match ups in there. I swear, he either broke even or else, had an advantage or completely dominated in that game. Another game as well that needs to be mentioned was Tekken 4...Jin dominated that game with more fury and fear then what Gouki has done so far in HD:Remix. There where matches in Tekken 4, to where I saw Jin players do absolutely nothing but 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, and occasional JFLS for good measure, anyone who was 10-framers and who wasn't called Steve Fox (you had to be a **** good Steve Fox player at that) had almost no answer to it.
How about SFIII:NG...what about Ibuki...Infinity anyone??? That girl dominated that game with an absolute iron fist, and completely mopped the floor with the competition, nobody could combo to her potential, nobody could do stun damage potential to her lvl with that consistency and nobody else had an infinity that was so easy to do as well.
What about CE. Bison...unlike Gouki, Bison could kill you with one connected attack Low poke, scissor kick what not, he dizzy and re-dizzy combos that where super easy and super effecient to do...just imagine your winning the round...and Bison lands one connected scissor kick or low poke, lol, ocved, you lost the round. CE. Bison's options were more potent and dangerous then anything Gouki has shown in HD:Remix to this very point. Gouki in HD to me is simply a very powerful character when used right, I only know a select few who can play Gouki to his potential (damdai for one), however even Damdai doesn't blow out solid players in this game, he really has to work his Gouki to win, and yes, he loses even when playing as Gouki.
I have never, ever understood the ban Gouki even at srk.com, simply because Gouki hasn't stopped other characters from winning tournaments, and Gouki isn't so over the top that he has made everyone else unplayable to this point, I mean, I don't see consistently 8+ top seeded Gouki's placing in tournaments, I may see one Gouki player winning a tournament, or within the Top 3, but not multiple. I have however back in the CE days, seen multiple CE. Bisons taking the Top 8, and without a doubt, I have seen multiple Jin's take the Top 8 during Tekken 4...in fact, in one Evo tournament, like 5 out of the top 8 finishers where Jin...and the Top 3 where all Jin players.
As I said, I've always been scratching my head on this notion, because there have been characters who have been just as powerful as Gouki in their respective game, and in some cases, even more powerful, and yet they where never ever banned. The only thing on Gouki that really needs to be modified a bit would be his Raging Demon...since the invincibility on it is too good, other then that, I don't mind the rest.
OneWingSephiroth
Smash Journeyman
Lol, if it did, I would be shocked that it did turn out perfectly, I mean, as balanced as HD:Remix is, the game still doesn't have a hand on balance in comparison to Hyper Fighting. HD Gouki isn't that bad, and to be serious, many character match ups against O. Sagat in Vanilla ST were 10x worse then what is happening against characters facing a good Gouki player in HD.
Mith_
Smash Champion
Well I don't have as much experience with this as OWS does seeing as I just started playing 2d fighters this year, so I wouldn't know anything about tourney rankings and what not.
But from what I've seen in vids it just looks like he is unbeatable. That Air Fireball crossup is too good.
And I know this excuse is very very unvalid, but CPU akuma likes to ride me like a 50 cent pony machine.
But from what I've seen in vids it just looks like he is unbeatable. That Air Fireball crossup is too good.
And I know this excuse is very very unvalid, but CPU akuma likes to ride me like a 50 cent pony machine.
OneWingSephiroth
Smash Journeyman
He's not that bad, believe me, I've seen Sirlin play against Damdai who has one of the best Gouki's around in the US, and the two were fighting nearly dead even against one another. His got some very powerful options, however they are no different then the powerful options that someone like CvS2 Blanka had. Some options that CvS2 Blanka had where absolutely ridiculous, and in some cases even more stupid then what Gouki has in HD.
O. Sagat match ups back in Vanilla ST were even worse then Gouki's match ups, because there were characters who had absolutely nothing that they could possibly do up against Low Tigers, and Tiger Uppercut rinse and repeat tactics.
The reason why I say he's not that overpowered, is because we aren't seeing a magnitude of Gouki players that can play Gouki to his insane potential, and more importantly, we don't see a host of them winning tournaments. It's not to say that Gouki isn't strong, however he is indeed very powerful, but again, he doesn't need to be removed from the game.
HD:Remix hasn't devalued since he's been tournament competitive, and if that remains from here on out, then he deserves to be left in.
Gory snake
Smash Journeyman
I dont mind playing against Akuma's mainly because they're all terrible, I've yet to play a really good Akuma.
One thing I hate about the HD Remix community, TOO MANY KENS. 90% of all my matches are Kens. I wouldn't mind if they were good, but they're all bad and they all do the same ****, jab shoryuken to start every round, always attempt to cross up with j. toward and make some combo up afterwards but fail and random hurricane kicks. It feels like Im always playing the same guy.
And the lag, gotta hate the lag.
One thing I hate about the HD Remix community, TOO MANY KENS. 90% of all my matches are Kens. I wouldn't mind if they were good, but they're all bad and they all do the same ****, jab shoryuken to start every round, always attempt to cross up with j. toward and make some combo up afterwards but fail and random hurricane kicks. It feels like Im always playing the same guy.
And the lag, gotta hate the lag.
Minato
穏やかじゃない
Once scrubs realize how to do a shoryuken, they abuse it.
But yeah, I hear you. Way too many Kens online last time I played. I've only gone against one really good Ken. He had like a 60 win streak going on.
Mith_
Smash Champion
I need to practice execution. I hate doing a fireball or a crouching punch instead of a dragon punch when somebody jumps in lol.
stranga
Smash Journeyman
That used to happen to me a lot, until I switched to vega and now everybody thinks I'm a scub because all I do is jump of the wall.
Mith_
Smash Champion
Your AV is complete and utter win.