Super Smash Bros. Unity (Coming Soon...)

[Mr Lange]

We are still working on Sonic, but we will take this into mind.
Personally, I want his look to be somewhat in between Classic and Modern. And the same will go for his moveset.

Eeeeh alright but I'd certainly prefer if he were weighted more in the classic direction.
Couple images for your consideration.

 

[Mega Bidoof]

Eeeeh alright but I'd certainly prefer if he were weighted more in the classic direction.
Couple images for your consideration.

I love this!
We are definitely going to take this into consideration! (And by that I mean we are probably going to do it, I just can't confirm anything yet).

 

[APC99]

Eeeeh alright but I'd certainly prefer if he were weighted more in the classic direction.
Couple images for your consideration.

As the current spriter, those are the exact ideas I had in mind . We'll see what the team says so far.

 

[Mr Lange]

We are still working on Sonic, but we will take this into mind.Actually, it is not very hard to develop. We just create each color black as a separate object, and have certain characters have a different damage effect when colliding with their color block.

They don't even need to be different objects. Just have the block object store a variable that determines the color, and the character it's colliding with checks the block's variable.

 

[Mega Bidoof]

I just wanted to tell everyone that we won't be announcing the last 3 newcomers until we have a trailer.
Which means we need more spriters.

 

[MopedOfJustice]

Completely original sprites.
View attachment 5857
We hope to have a much better looking, professional screenshot soon.

Thanks. Other than Kirby, and Link's hair, this is really, really good!
Is this a Sonic stage?

 

[Mega Bidoof]

Thanks. Other than Kirby, and Link's hair, this is really, really good!
Is this a Sonic stage?

Yes, it is the Death Egg.
I know Link's hair looks a bit weird now, but it look better when he is standing still and it will be waving.

 

[MopedOfJustice]

Yes, it is the Death Egg.
I know Link's hair looks a bit weird now, but it look better when he is standing still and it will be waving.

What about Kirby? I don't mean any offence to the spriter, but that mouth...
Also, since you expressed wanting to redo movesets, could I make some suggestions for Kirby's? Or is it alreaady finalized?

 

[Mega Bidoof]

What about Kirby? I don't mean any offence to the spriter, but that mouth...
Also, since you expressed wanting to redo movesets, could I make some suggestions for Kirby's? Or is it alreaady finalized?

We already have a lot of ideas for Kirby, but feel free to suggest.

 

[MopedOfJustice]

We already have a lot of ideas for Kirby, but feel free to suggest.

Ok,
My big issue with SSB Kirby (besides my signature) is that his entire A moveset is made-up (other than his dash), and is just him kicking like a ballerina.
There are plenty of moves that can be taken from his actual attacks (though many are still kicks).
Some Examples:

Spoiler

F-Smash Force Blast (Fighter Kirby) Essentially Mega Man's F-Smash in 4, with multiple stages of power (Force Blast, Mega Force Blast, and Giga Force Blast)

F-Tilt Smash Punch (Fighter Kirby) This especially makes sense because Fighter Kirby works in a weak move/strong move system, and his jab is Nonstop Vulcan Punch, the weak companion to Smash Punch

D-tilt Slide Attack

Dair Pinpoint Kick (Suplex Kirby)

Fair The kick equivalent of Smash Punch (I forget what the name is)

F-Special (Midair) How it is in Melee

U-Special Make it actually look like the Cutter Blade (use a Super Star Ultra Sprite Rip for reference)

I have a Somewhat Crazy Idea:
Rather than having him only copy the NB of a character, have him copy the B that best represents that character (Link's would probably be UB, for example). Most abilities would stay, but stupib ones like Link's would change to a more appropriate move.

I also have an Absolutely Crazy Idea:
When he uses a move that is specific to a certain ability, make him have the hat of that ability (like Milky-way Wishes), and when he isn't, no hat or the hat of the character he is copying.

Also: Make Gooey playable at some point.

 

[MopedOfJustice]

I am posting this separately because it is completely unrelated, but:
Going character-by-character, there are only a few design issues/oddities:

Kirby has a ridiculous smile, unlike anything he has ever even been shown to be physically capable of. As a rule, Kirby's facial expression is blank in his idle stance, in every Kirby game, most spin-offs included.

Captain Falcon looks scrawny, especially his thighs. He also has Spiderman eyes. Just try trimming it a little.

Link is good, and the hair thing was addressed, but the shield gives the impression of being an upside-down teardrop shape. Which Link is this based on?

Mario is perfect. ggnore

I'm not saying any of them are bad. They aren't. I just figure you want to make it the best you can possibly make it. I also recognize that some of this may be intentional, hence "oddities."

Are the sprites just going to flip when they face the other way, or are there two different versions?

 

[Mega Bidoof]

I am posting this separately because it is completely unrelated, but:
Going character-by-character, there are only a few design issues/oddities:

Kirby has a ridiculous smile, unlike anything he has ever even been shown to be physically capable of. As a rule, Kirby's facial expression is blank in his idle stance, in every Kirby game, most spin-offs included.

Captain Falcon looks scrawny, especially his thighs. He also has Spiderman eyes. Just try trimming it a little.

Link is good, and the hair thing was addressed, but the shield gives the impression of being an upside-down teardrop shape. Which Link is this based on?

Mario is perfect. ggnore

I'm not saying any of them are bad. They aren't. I just figure you want to make it the best you can possibly make it. I also recognize that some of this may be intentional, hence "oddities."

Are the sprites just going to flip when they face the other way, or are there two different versions?

Most of the decisions are on purpose.
It's supposed to be a cool and cartoony style, so Captain Falcon is fine.

I do agree on Kirby's smile, we will fix that.

We are not sure what exact design Link is. He is kind of a general Link.

 

[MopedOfJustice]

Most of the decisions are on purpose.
It's supposed to be a cool and cartoony style, so Captain Falcon is fine.

I do agree on Kirby's smile, we will fix that.

We are not sure what exact design Link is. He is kind of a general Link.

I would suggest adding some chain mail. It'll break-up the white, which really just looks like filler. Most Adult Links have it. Well, SS and TP do.
About CF, I get that it's a different style (the shading is awesome btw), but his legs really souldn't be straight lines. He doesn't need to be bulky, just a little bit of a bulge, a line-segment of pixels, would help.

What did you think of the Kirby moveset suggestions? "Taken into consideration?"

 

[PigmaskColonel]

I have a few questions:
1. Will Porky Minch be included in the roster?
2. Will this game be available on Mac computers?

 

[Mega Bidoof]

I have a few questions:
1. Will Porky Minch be included in the roster?
2. Will this game be available on Mac computers?

1. Maybe eventually, maybe not

2. We are planning so.

 

[PigmaskColonel]

1. Maybe eventually, maybe not

2. We are planning so.

Thanks!

 

[MopedOfJustice]

1. Maybe eventually, maybe not

2. We are planning so.

And Gooey?

 

[Mega Bidoof]

And Gooey?

....maybe.
And I say that with less confidence than Porky.

Only because of this.
Crusade already has Gooey as a character. And I guess I never formally announced this before, but Affinity's main goal character wise is uniqueness. And while Gooey is unique, Crusade already used that.
Though we will have some similar characters than Crusade, since there are certain choices that are very popular among the Smash community, such as Little Mac while we announced for example.

Also, I just want to say that if anyone knows any spriters at all, please tell me. We want to start releasing versions of the game, but to do that we need full sprite sheets of characters, which we can't make without spriters. So please tell us if anyone knows any.

 

[MopedOfJustice]

Crusade also did Porky.
The reason I ask for a Gooey is because he can be done so much better than how he was in Crusade.

 

[Mega Bidoof]

Crusade also did Porky.
The reason I ask for a Gooey is because he can be done so much better than how he was in Crusade.

He will be considered.
But as for Porky, what makes him different as that he can be done is MANY different ways.
Spider-Mech, Bed-Mech, and even my & Giygas idea.

 

[MopedOfJustice]

He will be considered.
But as for Porky, what makes him different as that he can be done is MANY different ways.
Spider-Mech, Bed-Mech, and even my & Giygas idea.

Not sure about Giygas, but Spider Mech sounds awesome.

I might know a guy who can do the art for stages. You'd need to add the boxes, but still.

Is the game going to be true to the pixelated style in terms of movement. That is to say, characters cannot move half-a-pixel, right?
I hate it when games do that.

 

[Mega Bidoof]

Edit: If you wanted satic stages, I might know a guy who could draw them. You'd need to add hitboxes and so forth,

Not sure about Giygas, but Spider Mech sounds awesome.

I might know a guy who can do the art for stages. You'd need to add the boxes, but still.

Is the game going to be true to the pixelated style in terms of movement. That is to say, characters cannot move half-a-pixel, right?
I hate it when games do that.

What do you mean by satic stages?

Can you please tell me this guy's Smashboards/email/whatever?

Also, we will be staying true to pixelated style movements.

 

[MopedOfJustice]

What do you mean by satic stages?

Can you please tell me this guy's Smashboards/email/whatever?

Also, we will be staying true to pixelated style movements.

Sorry, wrote it in a hurry. I didn't even notice the quote freak-out.
I meant to say static.

Edit: Also, glad to hear about the artistic integrity.
There should be a Contra stage

 

[SuperBrawler]

We are redoing everyone's moveset.

Crusade also did Porky.
The reason I ask for a Gooey is because he can be done so much better than how he was in Crusade.

The thing is, we really have a big roster.

 

[PigmaskColonel]

I have a little experience with sprites, but not enough to be a spriter. I've recreated several sprites from games and ripped a few on the Spriters Resource, but not enough experience to make my own.

 

[Mega Bidoof]

I have a little experience with sprites, but not enough to be a spriter. I've recreated several sprites from games and ripped a few on the Spriters Resource, but not enough experience to make my own.

Sorry, we are making completely original sprites, and not ripping.

 

[MopedOfJustice]

Sorry, we are making completely original sprites, and not ripping.

Would it be acceptable to rip for stages and then go back over them later?
EDIT: Dammit CrashBoards

 

[Mega Bidoof]

Would it be acceptable to rip for stages and then go back over them later?
EDIT: Dammit CrashBoards

For stages we will probably rip and then edit it.

 

[MopedOfJustice]

You're gonna make a cameo, right?
#AlakaDoof4SSBA

 

[Mega Bidoof]

You're gonna make a cameo, right?
#AlakaDoof4SSBA

I hope.
I didnt get this approved by the others, but I want Bidoof to be an incredibly OP Pokéball.

 

[PigmaskColonel]

Sorry, we are making completely original sprites, and not ripping.

Oh, OK. I was just thinking about that since Crusade had reused several sprites for certain characters.

I really hope Fawful is at least an AT in Affinity...

 

[Mega Bidoof]

Oh, OK. I was just thinking about that since Crusade had reused several sprites for certain characters.

I really hope Fawful is at least an AT in Affinity...

I am not confirming anything about assists OR Fawful yet. But all I'll say is that after you said you want him to be AT LEAST an assist, I have chortles.

When people are hoping or speculating characters, they seem to forget that I am making it.
I can put it whoever I want.
And my most wanted characters are in my sig.

 

[MopedOfJustice]

I am not confirming anything about assists OR Fawful yet. But all I'll say is that after you said you want him to be AT LEAST an assist, I have chortles.

When people are hoping or speculating characters, they seem to forget that I am making it.
I can put it whoever I want.
And my most wanted characters are in my sig.

My Body is Ready for most of those.
Still needs Gooey

Edit: There should be a SmashBoards stage.
If there is, make sure there is a little green moped (probably getting violently dismantled by OverSwarm via aluminum baseball bat).

Edit 2: Give it a chance of being CrashBoards instead, with burning clouds in the sky and random tripping.

Edit 3: Another cameo could be a Pokemon DPP satge, that's just outside of the introductory town, and crawling with Bidoofs.

 

[PigmaskColonel]

I am not confirming anything about assists OR Fawful yet. But all I'll say is that after you said you want him to be AT LEAST an assist, I have chortles.

When people are hoping or speculating characters, they seem to forget that I am making it.
I can put it whoever I want.
And my most wanted characters are in my sig.

That's why I said it.

Also, where did you get that Porky model in your sig? Was it an edited Mecha-Porky from Brawl?

 

[Mega Bidoof]

That's why I said it.

Also, where did you get that Porky model in your sig? Was it an edited Mecha-Porky from Brawl?

I just searched "Porky Brawl Hack" and then that was the first thing in Google Images.

 

[PigmaskColonel]

I just searched "Porky Brawl Hack" and then that was the first thing in Google Images.

Thanks! I've been looking for a pic of a Porky model from Brawl for ages now...

 

[APC99]

Bidoof, you're revealing too much! Soon, ey'll know everything! Be mysterious, vague, like I.

I am posting this separately because it is completely unrelated, but:
Going character-by-character, there are only a few design issues/oddities:

Kirby has a ridiculous smile, unlike anything he has ever even been shown to be physically capable of. As a rule, Kirby's facial expression is blank in his idle stance, in every Kirby game, most spin-offs included.

Captain Falcon looks scrawny, especially his thighs. He also has Spiderman eyes. Just try trimming it a little.

Link is good, and the hair thing was addressed, but the shield gives the impression of being an upside-down teardrop shape. Which Link is this based on?

Mario is perfect. ggnore

I'm not saying any of them are bad. They aren't. I just figure you want to make it the best you can possibly make it. I also recognize that some of this may be intentional, hence "oddities."

Are the sprites just going to flip when they face the other way, or are there two different versions?

I will change Kirby's face, I'm not sure why I made him smile.

As Bidoof stated, Captain Falcon's designed to look like he popped out of a comic book. Ironically, the skinny thighs then seem more powerful in action than in still life.

Link was mostly based off Ocarina of Time, but I did add a bit of Twilight Princess into the mix. His shield looks flat at the moment, but I can fix that quickly. His hair looks better in action as well.


But otherwise, I'm doing fairly well designing characters. Most of the veterans are done by Bidoof, Louie G. and I, and we only have a few left to sprite before we begin work on a trailer. So, I'll see you guys later, I've got quite a bit of work to do!

 

[SuperBrawler]

I'm doing recolours because I never learned to sprite .

 

[APC99]

I'm doing recolours because I never learned to sprite .

You're quite a bit of help though. Well, off to finish my work!

 

[Mega Bidoof]

Bidoof, you're revealing too much! Soon, ey'll know everything! Be mysterious, vague, like I.



I will change Kirby's face, I'm not sure why I made him smile.

As Bidoof stated, Captain Falcon's designed to look like he popped out of a comic book. Ironically, the skinny thighs then seem more powerful in action than in still life.

Link was mostly based off Ocarina of Time, but I did add a bit of Twilight Princess into the mix. His shield looks flat at the moment, but I can fix that quickly. His hair looks better in action as well.


But otherwise, I'm doing fairly well designing characters. Most of the veterans are done by Bidoof, Louie G. and I, and we only have a few left to sprite before we begin work on a trailer. So, I'll see you guys later, I've got quite a bit of work to do!

Don't worry about my hinting of characters.
If we tell people that their favorite character may be in, they will say updated on the project and check on here to see if we revealed them.