Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Roster Thread

[TDK]

This list is entirely wants, and most of this has no basis whatsoever.

Ice Climbers - These two seem like a given considering they were supposed to be in Smash 4. Bonus points is they have yet another stupid way to kill you off a grab.
Captain Toad - Yes, it's another Mario character. Yes, he can't jump. But really, I think he'd make an adorable addition from a very underrated game that'd be a lot of fun to see.
Azura - If there's a new FE Rep it'll probably be Alm, but I would LOVE if Azura made it in (she should've made it into S4 over Corrin imo). For once, having a FE User who isn't a sword wielder would be a nice touch, and Azura's singing and water-based abilities could make for an interesting character that isn't just a stock sword emblem character.
Mimikkyu - Probably not happening, but it's the second most likely new Pokémon behind Decidueye and I think it'd be interesting in how similar or different it'd be from Pikachu.
Ivysaur - My favourite piece of the Pokémon Trainer, I'd love to see her get a shot as a standalone character.
Pichu - See Roserade, except switch out "piece of the Pokémon trainer" for "Melee character". If the game has Rage in it, Pichu would become a very clever risk vs reward character with her self-damaging moves.
Roserade - Two words: Pipe Dream. I would much rather see her than Decidueye even though it's absolutely never going to happen. With the vines in her flowers in her Pokédex entries and a large amount of in-game moves to choose from, she'd be a completely random choice but I'd love it.
Bandana Waddle Dee - LOOK AT HOW CUTE HE IS. Like seriously. He's also one of the few other Kirby characters I could see making it in, especially if Dedede keeps his Gordo toss.
Spring Man/Ribbon Girl/Twintelle/Any ARMS character really - Nintendo's other new IP alongside Splatoon, even though ARMS isn't as popular it'll probably still get a rep. Spring Man/Ribbon Girl as alts of each other are the most likely, but I could see Twintelle making it in since she's a fan favourite.
BOTW Link (Maybe called "Resurrected Link" or "Restored Link"?) - I'm fine with him being an Alt swap but I would love to see a new Link that makes use of the Sheikah slate abilities and other new things in BOTW, like the Paraglider.
Black Shadow - Put him in smash, give him Ganon's current moveset, and give us a proper Ganon. Please.

If it is an entirely new game (I think it'll be a port but), I think the following characters have a fairly high chance of being cut:



Here's some other characters I would not be surprised to see get cut but am not as sure on:

(Only if BOTW Link is his own character)

 

[Jonathan Hooker]

I need King Boo. I will give up all my current main and secondaries for King Boo! I NEED KING BOO!

 

[SpectreJordan]

I have a feeling we’ll be seeing very few cuts, maybe even none, so I just picked my most wanted characters who weren’t in Smash 4. I’d also like to see a character from Fire Emblem Switch & Pokemon Switch, but obviously can’t pick who yet.

 

[SquashiniKun]

Here's my roster i guess

 

[ShortcutButton]

Attempt at realistic roster.

Waluigi - Identifies as Wario series
New Wario Character - Either Ashley or Kat/Ana, but I haven't played so much so it could be anyone from this series.
New Zelda Character - Someone from Botw
Dark Pit - Only there because Sakurai
Bandana Dee - Basically player 4 of the Kirby series
Wolf and ICs - Back
Pokemon - Ordered by dex number (except Pikachu > Charizard)
Decidueye - Pretty common put there. Doubt Gen 8 pokemon makes it cause that game hasnt even been announced yet and they've been working on this game for a while.
Rex - Sakurai apparently loves Xenoblade 2, no one loves Xenoblade X.
Takamaru - Natural progression from sticker to assist trophy to retro cool character. Also was released on 3DS and prolly Switch soon.
Inkling - A character
Spring Man - New game
Lucina - Cut, moved in with marth
Captain Toad - Should be in smash, but I dont think will happen because theres not enough for a moveset.
Other last minute cuts - Dixie Kong (no relevance), Crash and Solaire (both too new to Switch to fit Smash 5 development timeframe), Paper Mario (Doc is actually more iconic at this point)
Ridley - Still too big
Character count - 65, 68 with miis

What do you all think?

 

[The Smash Nerd II.0.]

Inkling - A character

That should say Inkling- Already conformed.

 

[Deleted member]

I'm still waiting for an answer, why were these 2 threads merged considering their topics are completely different?

 

[rockerpikmin]

If Pikmin 4 launches a month before 5mash, and Alph reprises his role, it would be the perfect opportunity to promote him and his series!

 

[Cyn]

Sorry for the mix-up guys. This was accidentally merged with the palette swap thread. I separated the posts that were obviously meant for The Switch Roster Thread. If I missed anything, tag me or one of the section mods with a post link and we will move it here. Again, sorry for the confusion.

 

[-crump-]

How are you guys making those sweet roster images? Is there a template for the images somewhere? I'd love to get invloved but i don't really wanna type out my roster

also, just making sure, these are our predictions for what the roster will look like, not our dream roster, right?

 

[Deleted member]

How are you guys making those sweet roster images? Is there a template for the images somewhere? I'd love to get invloved but i don't really wanna type out my roster

also, just making sure, these are our predictions for what the roster will look like, not our dream roster, right?

It's for both.
As for the program, there you go.

 

[Mogu]

Let me start this by saying I am in the belief that Smash Wii U is being used as the backbone for Smash Switch with them building on top of it. As a result, I do not believe that there will be any cuts, you heard me right. Yes, even the current third party characters stay, even Cloud (Which I REALLY hope I'm right about.)

3/10/2018
So...my current prediction roster. Not exactly dream roster, I'll get to that afterwards.

Blue = return with no changes outside of maybe data.
Red = return with changes in their moveset.
Green = newcomer
Yellow = returning veterans.
10 characters horizontally each row, 7 rows. 69, 71 counting all 3 Mii Fighters. 13 character net gain counting Mii Fighters being 3 characters in 1.

Additions to the current roster:
Captain Toad, King K. Rool, Pokemon newcomer, Metroid newcomer, Wolf, Waddle Dee, Rex (and Pyra), Spring Man, Inklings, Ice Climbers, Rhythm Heaven newcomer, Geno and Heihachi.
I think that Heihachi could instead end up being Travis Touchdown or Crash too so keep that in mind when looking at the above prediction.

Now for my dream roster and this is a doozy:

Same rules apply for blue, red, green and yellow except red is also characters I hope have moveset changes.
5 horizontal rows of 13 characters and one last row of 8. 75 in total. Additions are the following: Waluigi, King K. Rool, Zelda newcomer, Hades, Inklings, Waddle (Bandana) Dee, Wolf, Ridley, Decidueye, Rex (and Pyra), Ice Climbers, Fire Emblem newcomer, Isaac, Spring Man, Rhythm Heaven newcomer, Geno and Snake. Snake is interchangeable with Travis Touchdown or Crash, Waluigi with Paper Mario and Isaac with Muddy Mole or Mike Anderson. Talking about characters being "interchangeable" because I felt anything more than 75 is definitely dreaming too much and that'd make the roster 80 characters in total. No way, I think 75 is already stretching it. lol
I would go more into the character choices for both of these rosters and the why but this post is already getting too large I think. If you're that curious, just message me.

Will update this in the future possibly (and if I remember.)
Edit: Edited in the date for the first prediction. Thanks to Super Flygon for reminding me by putting in a date for their first prediction.

 

[Al-kīmiyā']

Can we get this thread stickied again?

 

[Cyn]

Can we get this thread stickied again?

It already is.....

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Now that the issue is resolved, we will be back to enforcing the "one roster spot per person" rule for this thread. Please refer to the first post for the rules as well as the proper download for the roster maker itself.

(Should go without saying that the Moderation reminding someone of the rules isn't counted towards the one post rule. Otherwise, we couldn't get anything done. I will not be using this post for my roster, mind you).

 

[silvR1995]

Alright kids, feast your eyes on this. This is my predicted character roster for Smash Bros. Switch. (not counting Mii Fighters)







The Substitute dolls represent the following, from upper-left to lower-right:

WarioWare character (most likely to be Ashley, if I'm honest.)
Waluigi
DK character
Breath of the Wild character
Takamaru
Metroid Prime character
FE Switch main character (or a currently existing character, such as Lyn.)
Kirby Star Allies character
Decidueye
Rex
Inkling
Spring Man
Rayman

Possible cuts:

52 veterans + 13 newcomers = 65 characters.

Now, my reasoning for each removal.

Spoiler: :4drmario: "Dr. Mario"

Spoiler: :4feroy: "Roy"

Spoiler: :4lucina: "Lucina"

Spoiler: :4wiifit: "Wii Fit Trainer"

Spoiler: :4cloud: "Cloud"

 

[TheBazry64]

https://imgur.com/a/aC8Ao
75 characters with Lucina, Roy and Dr.Mario being cut.
Green = Alts, Bottom = characters i considered to include but did not make it.
Newcomers:
Cpt. Toad - I feel like he is a shoe in, given the ports of Treasure Tracker and his role in Oddyssey.
Waluigi - I feel like Mario will get 2 Newcomers since it is Nintendos biggest franchise and he is more likely than Daisy
King K Rool - Massive popularity and lack of DK characters
Dixie Kong - Is relevant as DKCTF also gets a port. Also more likely than Cranky and Funky
Ganon - Wild guess as i am sure Zelda gets at least one Newcomer. And after all he is the main villain of BoTW
Revali - Another wild guess, could also be Mipha or any other Zelda character but i feel like he is more popular
2 Fire Emblem characters - At least one of the new game with the other one propably being Corrin
Waddle Dee - Also popular and Sakurai likes Kirby obviously
Pokemon Rep. - Most likely Decidueye
Metroid rep - 100% sure about that given Metroid 2 and MP4. Could be Ridley, Dark Samus, or Sylux
Hades - Main Villain of Sakurais franchise likelier than Medusa or Viridi
Animal Crossing Rep. - Could be anyone but AC is such a big franchise that i feel like it might happen
Spring Man - New IP that needs promotion
Exite Biker - Iconic Retro character
Balloon Fighter -" "
Isaac - Just a guess
Bomberman - Did well on the switch and has a long history with Nintendo
Rayman - Kingdom battle is a thing and he is 10 times bettter than the Rabbids

Makes 19 newcomers + Wolf and Ice Climbers returning.

I could imagine that there will be just 70 characters. In that case the 2nd Zelda Newcomer, The Animal Crossing Character, Hades, 1 Retro character and Waddle Dee/Isaac would not make it.

 

[kylexv]

EDIT (Sept 14, 2018, mere hours before the box reared its ugly mug) (FINAL PREDICTION):

Updated after Isabelle's reveal. Literally my previous roster, but with Skull Kid, Isaac, Impa, and Dixie Kong removed.


Previous prediction rosters can be found below:

Spoiler: Past Versions

 

[Zzuxon]

Notes: I wanted to include Toon Link, Greninja, ZSS and Palutena, but I had a 67 character limit, so they had to go. They'd be DLC though.

If I were unable to secure the license to Banjo and Kazooie, they would probably be replaced with Rayman.

 

[ErenJager]

Here's mine

Brought back every Vet. I guess Young Link could get an original moveset based off his masks.
Newcomers; KKR, Inkling, Ridley, Geno, Bomberman, Paper Mario

--EDIT--
Just for fun..

Spoiler: Ultra Roster

 

[splat]

OLD VERSION

Spoiler

NEW VERSION

 

[Loungemen]

hoh it's that time of year again huh

Newcomers: Paper Mario, Dixie Kong, Wild Link, Ridley, Lyn, Waddle Dee, Decidueye, Rex, Inkling, Spring Man, Crash

Alternatively: Swap Paper Mario for Captain Toad, Dixie Kong for K. Rool, Wild Link with another Zelda character, Lyn for Lucina, Decidueye for Mimikyu, and Crash for another 3rd party character

Unlockable: Paper Mario, Mr. Game & Watch, Ganondorf, Ridley, Roy, Wolf, Mewtwo, Duck Hunt, R.O.B., Bayonetta

and once again Kirby's in the middle

 

[fogbadge]

made a mostly ideal roster for myself, had to restrain myself when it came to certain series otherwise id have just ended up making a hyrule warriors roster

newcomers (top to bottom, left to right):
toad
cranky kong
yarn yoshi
impa
linkle (hyrule warriors)
metroid (why not)
andy (advance wars)
wonder red (the wonderful 101)
bandana waddle dee
alph (pikmin 3)
mimikyu
poipole (us&um)
sora
tiki
rowan and lianna (fire emblem warriors) (i think theyd be alts of each other)
ninten (mother)
professor layton
inklings
tempo (harmoknight)
snip and clip (snipperclips)
ashley mizuki robins (another code)
spring man
nate (yo-kai watch)
rex (xenoblade 2)
matthew (golden sun dark dawn)
hana/sakura samurai
chibi-robo
chorus kids (rhythm paradise)
mallo (pullblox)
qbby (boxboy)
urban champion
ballon fighter

cuts:
bowser jr, nothing against him just tried to restrain myself a bit
dr mario, the are better choices for both mario characters and roster padding
falco, im a bit sick of him at this point
greninja, nothing against him just other pokemon id rather have
mewtwo, ive never liked mewtwo
robin, lucina, roy, ike, corrin, to many fire emblem characters swapped them out for ones i prefer
pittoo, not a fan
little mac, dont care for punch out
pac-man, hes fun to play as but im not a fan
ryu, hes a cool inclusion but i not bothered
cloud, its awesome having a final fantasy character but im not fond of him

zero suit samus is back as a transform

 

[Super Flygon]

Current Prediction- Prediction #7- November 1, 2018 (Post November Smash Direct)
Full Roster (including DLC) by official Smash numbering

Full Roster (including DLC) by official Smash numbering with the stacked setting on

82 characters (we are basically confirmed to have 82 anyways, so don't expect that number to change).

Yellow is DLC.

Spoiler: Changes

Spoiler: Prediction #6- September 15, 2018 (Post September Direct)

Spoiler: Prediction #5- August 20, 2018 (Post August Smash Ultimate Direct) Ver. 3

Spoiler: Prediction #4- August 12, 2018 (Post August Smash Ultimate Direct) Ver. 2

Spoiler: Prediction #3- August 8, 2018 (Post August Smash Ultimate Direct) Ver. 1

Spoiler: Prediction #2- June 15, 2018 (Post E3 Direct)

Spoiler: Prediction #1- March 11, 2018 (Post March Direct)

 

[Reality_Ciak]

old

Spoiler

"Rift"

Spoiler

The New Dream

Echoes not stacked. (Kind of ugly how they get separated but I mean look at Smash 4's roster)

Stork (Yoshi Echo), Black Shadow (Captain Falcon Echo) as alternatives to Medusa and Octolings.

 

[Opossum]

Okay, figured I'd make mine. Don't have access to the Roster Maker because I'm on mobile, but here we go. Prediction time.


(Captain Toad)(Dixie Kong)
(Mipha)(Takamaru)
(Decidueye)
(Celica)(Isabelle)(Rex and Pyra)
(Chorus Kids)(Inkling)(Spring Man)
(Additional Third Party)(Additional Third Party)

Newcomer List:
Captain Toad
Dixie Kong
Mipha
Takamaru
Decidueye (or a Gen VIII Pokémon...we don't know when the roster was decided)
Celica (or the FE16 Protagonist...we don't know when the roster was decided)
Isabelle
Rex and Pyra
Chorus Kids
Inkling *Confirmed*
Spring Man
Miis (reworked to be based on games like Wii Sports Resort, Tomodachi Life, and Miitopia)

Plus Two of the Following:
Crash Bandicoot
Rayman
Rabbids
Shovel Knight


Cuts: Dr. Mario, Roy, Dark Pit, Lucas, Mii Brawler, Mii Swordfighter, Mii Gunner

For a total of 66 characters.

Final Pre-E3 Edit:

Here's my "If Vergeben is right" roster:

This is pre-DLC, so Spring Man, Crash, and Rex & Pyra aren't included.

 

[Esquelen]

 

[Deleted member]

Pre-E3 prediction with reasoning (spoiler'd):

No cuts, 15 newcomers in the base roster, 3 returning veterans, and 5 DLC fighters (81 characters total). Based off of Vergeben's leaks. Funky Kong, Lyn, Rex & Pyra, Spring Man, and Crash are DLC. At first it seems like a lot of characters but if there aren't any cuts this likely started off as an enhanced port, so there would be more time to work on newcomers.

Btw, Simon should be using his He-Man design and some of the other characters should be using more recent designs like in BOTW or Star Fox Zero, but the icons I have for those are either ugly or nonexistent. And for reference, it's Midna & Wolf Link, not just Midna.

Spoiler: Reasoning

And the old stuff:

Spoiler: Realistic roster I'd like to see (Original Post)

Spoiler: Prediction (3/12/18)

 

[DJ3DS]

Here's mine. It's a mixture of my personal hopes together with some of the other new characters I could realistically see happening. 63 total characters; not going higher than that because I am thinking of the real estate on the CSS.

INK ARM

KKR PGN SYL NFE NPO CRB
BND XC2 TKM RND

Key:

ARM = Arms character. I'd personally go for Spring-Man, with Ribbon Girl as an alt.
BND = Bandana Dee
CRB = Crash Bandicoot. Woah!
INK = Inkling
NFE = New Fire Emblem character. Categorically don't care which, never played any of the games.
NPC = New Pokemon character. Not too fussed.
PGN = Pig Ganon. The classic version of Ganon using his trident.
RND = Random button
SYL = Sylux, from Prime Hunters and (hopefully) the upcoming Prime 4.
TKM = Takamaru
XC2 = Xenoblade Chronicles 2 character. Haven't payed it so don't know any of them.

Cuts:
- Now a Pit alt
- Now a Mario alt
- Now a Marth alt
- Gone completely.
- the newcomer I expect most to be cut.

 

[Al-kīmiyā']

made a mostly ideal roster for myself, had to restrain myself when it came to certain series otherwise id have just ended up making a hyrule warriors roster

Would you mind listing your newcomers and cuts? I don't recognize all of these characters.

 

[Zold]

I made an account just because I like to see these lists, so I made my own as well. I kind of mixed between what I would like to see and what I think is somewhat likely.

Newcomers:
Captain Toad
Waluigi
Ribbon Girl
Inkling (Girl and Boy)
Lana (Hyrule Warriors)
Meowth (Possibly with Alolan-forme skin)
Decidueye
Bandana Waddle Dee
Pyra (Xenoblade 2)
Isabella
Tails
Rayman
Rabbid
Bomberman
Shovel Knight
Sora (Possibly with Roxas, Ventus, Vanitas and arguebly Xion skins)
Crash

Cuts:
Dr. Mario (arguebly a Mario skin?)
Lucina (could be a Marth skin)
Dark Pit (could be a Pit skin)

 

[fogbadge]

Would you mind listing your newcomers and cuts? I don't recognize all of these characters.

thats understandable i have got one the most obscure characters in nintendo history there

ill edit it

 

[Z1GMA]

Comebacks: Wolf, Snake, Ice Climbers
Newcomers: Ridley, K Rool, Waluigi, Inceneroar, Sami, Scorpion, Endou, Banjo Kazooie, Black Shadow
Cuts: Lucina, Dr Mario, Dark Pit, Miis

 

[CodeBlue_]

My roster version 1: 03/12/18

First five rows: Veterans + Confirmed characters
*Green Background - confirmed
*Blue background - pretty much in
*Yellow background - Unlikely to be cut, but more likely than others

Next four rows: Potential newcomers
Row 1: Most likely to get in. I expect these characters to be in without much doubt.
Row 2: Likely, but a little less so. I feel these characters should be on Sakurai's radar but who knows whether he finds them worthy.
Row 3: Fairly unlikely. These are a pool of potential characters that would work for Smash but I'm not really confident will actually get in. I have no clue what third party character we are getting, so I put likely ones here.
Row 4: Pipe dream. These are others characters I find interesting, but would probably not be on Sakurai's radar.

 

[Yoshi-Thomas]

Prediction roster 20/04/2018

Blue = Veterans.
Yellow = Potential cuts.
Red = Newcomers (one per column).
Green = Returning.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

(Man this brings back memories...)

I’ll post an image roster later, but here’s my ideal roster (newcomers italicized, bold is a previously cut veteran)

Mario: Mario, Luigi, Peach, Bowser, Rosalina & Luma, Bowser Jr.

Zelda: Link, Zelda, Toon Link, Sheik, Ganondorf, BOTW Link (assuming he’s a separate character from normal Link), undecided extra Zelda rep

Metroid: Samus, Zero Suit

Dr. Mario: Dr. Mario (receives slight modifications to moveset and play style)

Yoshi: Yoshi

Wario: Wario

Donkey Kong: Donkey Kong, Diddy Kong (haven’t decided if I’ll have a DK newcomer yet, may edit later)

Pokémon: Pikachu, Charizard, Jigglypuff, Lucario, Greninja, Mewtwo, Decidueye

ROB: ROB

EarthBound: Ness, Lucas

Punch Out: Little Mac

Kid Icarus: Pit, Palutena, Dark Pit (receives HEAVY modifications to moveset and play style)

Third party: Mega Man, Sonic, Pac Man, Ryu, Cloud, Bayonetta, Solid Snake, Rayman, Crash Bandicoot (maybe? Undecided on Crash)

Ice Climbers: Ice Climbers

Star Fox: Fox, Falco, Wolf

Pikmin: Olimar

Splatoon: Inkling (confirmed)

ARMS: random character (most likely Spring Man or Twintelle)

Kirby: Kirby, Meta Knight, King Dedede, Bandana Waddle Dee

Fire Emblem: Marth, Ike, Roy, Robin, Lucina (slightly modified; will use crossbow in some moves), Corrin

F-Zero: Captain Falcon, Black Shadow (undecided)

Xenoblade: Shulk, Mecha-Fiora, Elma, Rex & Pyra (Rex and Pyra have an IC like thing going on)

Animal Crossing: Villager

Duck Hunt: Duck Hunt

Game and Watch: Mr. Game and Watch

Mii: Mii Swordsman, Brawler, Gunner, TBD fourth Mii class

Wii Fit: Wii Fit Trainer

Rhythm Heaven: either Marshal or Chorus Kids

Any other potential newcomers: TBD

 

[MrRoidley]

EDIT 2: Made my final (?) roster
it's my wishlist with some prediction thrown in it:

ADDITIONS:
Newcomers:

• Skull Kid: is in mostly bc I want him but I think the odds are in his favor (Young Link's missing FS, Moon AT, etc)
• Incineroar: Only in bc of Vergeben. While I'm cautious in believing him, and he never explicitly confirmed Incineroar, that could very well be the case
• Elma: She only got in bc I wanted to make a full rectangle roster (I think we only have three newcomers left). I really want her, but out of all the newcomers I think she's the less likely (but I have hopes for her regardless)
• Geno: I want him + immensely popular + Vergeben. I'm banking on him being the last reveal

Echoes:

• Yarn Yoshi (Yoshi) and Black Shadow (Captain Falcon): I strongly believe that, in the "everyone is here" vibe, Smash team may try and finally bump the sole franchises from SSB64 with only one character to two (plus I want them a lot shhhh)
• Shadow: After the August Direct, I banked on two characters being shoo-ins. One of them already got in, Isabelle. The other is Shadow
• Ken: You have this fancy new name for clones and you don't put the OG clone in fighting games????? I only don't call him a shoo-in bc there's zero evidence for him, but the gut feeling is gigantic

Spoiler: OLD

 

[CaptainAmerica]

So, now that we've got a lot more things confirmed, I've updated my dream roster. Newcomers are outlined in Green.

Echo characters: Daisy, Lucina, Dark Pit, Tails, Isabelle
New Characters: Inkling, Ridley, King K. Rool, Dixie Kong, Urbosa, Dovahkiin, Simon Belmont

Spoiler: Previous Post

 

[ThatShadowLink]

It's that time again eh? Here's my wanted roster that I spent way too long making in Photoshop:

Spoiler: Explanations

 

[Loungemen]

Update and final roster predictions

Spoiler: New Characters

Spoiler: Alternate Characters

Spoiler: DLC Characters

I know Ridley's not going to be in it, but I can at least hope, right? I'll swap him for Excite Biker if I have to