Smash 3DS Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS Is Breaking Circle Pads

[Fire Tactician]

"Smash Bros is wrecking people's 3DS..." = "People are wrecking their own 3DS with carelessness"

Glad I could help, I recently bought the Year of Luigi 3DS XL to replace my aging 3DS. Took a while to transfer everything but it all moved over fine. The only thing to know is any pre-loaded games on the system you're moving to(like Mario & Luigi Dream Team in my case) will appear on your account in the shop and require you to re-download them.


:edit: For the record, you could transfer from the DSi to the 3DS as well, so I'm pretty sure the transfer tool will exist as well when the New 3DS comes out.

Oh... my brother recently got an XL and didn't transfer his data because he thought he'd lose Dream Team... oops...

 

[Frenzy]

It just has to last until December, then the smash I actually want to play comes out.

 

[Kalierdarke]

"Smash Bros is wrecking people's 3DS..." = "People are wrecking their own 3DS with carelessness"


Oh... my brother recently got an XL and didn't transfer his data because he thought he'd lose Dream Team... oops...

haha yeah, I was curious about that myself, but I checked the help guild on nintendo's support site.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

If you guys are worried about your Circle Pads breaking, I really recommend you buy a pack of these:

I bought some recently on EBay for about $10, they feel great and the rubber probably won't fall off/tear. (I'm using bottom middle, it really feels like a Gamecube thumbstick!) Just look up 3DS Circlepad cover on Amazon/Ebay and you'll probably find some.

(I don't know if this has been posted already, sorry!)

Hm, thats intresting. How do they go on anyway?

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

People are worrying too much about this, if the circle pad can handle games like Monster Hunter and Kid Icarus, it can handle Smash Bros too.

Oh god I forgot about monster hunter

 

[AntPlus]

You stated that it's not a problem, with the entirety of your reasoning being that you didn't think it was a problem. There is no insult in reiterating the point you made for context.

Your argument came across as shaming those who may have problems, and suggested multiple times that it would need to be entirely their mistakes, going as far as using the term "idiots".

I do not know the extent of this problem, I don't think anyone does, but I have heard about such issues in the past, and there are those only complaining of the issue now. Rather than jumping to victim blaming (which is never the right way to go), my position is that if the console is breaking with what people would consider normal use (what they would consider), then the fault is on Nintendo's part. To my understanding, my local laws have provisions of this as well, and this issue would not be put on the shoulders of the user, as any item that breaks through what any reasonable person could consider normal use, it is considered not fit for purpose.

The problem is that people aren't taking care of the 3DS. If they were then this wouldn't even be a thing. While there are a few people that wound up breaking their pads there are more that haven't broken it. And people are even saying that they've been playing rough or slamming the pad around. Therefore saying that it's Nintendo's fault for not making a pad better suited for this game is pointless if others are openly admitting to doing things that are pretty much wrecking their circle Pads.

 

[av448]

I have been playing the demo since i got the code , and before the demo i was playing Kid Icarus , and before Kid Icarus i was playing Super Street Fighter , and my Circle Pad is intact , it is not Nintendo fault if you play like animals

 

[ShyGuy16]

Well I've never been one to grind down on the thing, but this is good to know all the same. I'll have to call my brothers and let them know about this before they download the demo on Friday. I'm sure that they don't treat their electronics badly, but they're still kids...
Gotta thank SB for keeping us in the know. It'd be awful for someone to break their circle pad on the demo and not get to replace it in time for the actual game.

 

[Mr. Johan]

Electronics break. Can't really be helped.

Just gotta be more careful about gripping it the thing. D-Pad works too, right?

 

[SmashWolf]

Just gotta be more careful about gripping it the thing. D-Pad works too, right?

D-pad is taunt, though it might be customizable.

 

[LinkNIvy]

Again, this is in no way nintendo's fault. It's the exact same thing that happened with people breaking TVs with their Wiimotes when the Wii came out. Circle pads are breaking because people are over stressing them. You can play the game, even competitively, without slamming the pad back and forth. This isn't nintendo's fault, it's user error.

Except there's a wrist strap to easily remedy that problem. I've been playing Smash for since 64 and still can barely tilt properly because I'm not that coordinated. Yeah, it is my problem, but it might cost me a 3DS. My shoulder buttons barely work now. It's not like the 3DS GC adaptor is anything more than a hack for one person, and a new 3DS is way more expensive than a new controller.

I'm more conscious of this stuff now so I'm probably more gentle while using stuff, but I thought I was gentle with electronics before.

 

[mario123007]

The 3DS circle pad might wear off easily, the XL it is okay for now.
Just be nice to your 3ds unless you want to buy the New 3ds.

 

[Kalierdarke]

Except there's a wrist strap to easily remedy that problem. I've been playing Smash for since 64 and still can barely tilt properly because I'm not that coordinated. Yeah, it is my problem, but it might cost me a 3DS. My shoulder buttons barely work now. It's not like the 3DS GC adaptor is anything more than a hack for one person, and a new 3DS is way more expensive than a new controller.

I'm more conscious of this stuff now so I'm probably more gentle while using stuff, but I thought I was gentle with electronics before.

I would expect nintendo to release an official circle pad replacement, or even offer free repairs.

Remember Mario party on the 64? they offered a glove to keep you from injuring your hand. then there was the wrist strap replacement. It's really not nintendo's fault, but they do have a history of offering a solution to please their customers.

 

[LinkNIvy]

I would expect nintendo to release an official circle pad replacement, or even offer free repairs.

Remember Mario party on the 64? they offered a glove to keep you from injuring your hand. then there was the wrist strap replacement. It's really not nintendo's fault, but they do have a history of offering a solution to please their customers.

I have a feeling that it is partially with the "quality" of the 3DS's materials. Like, my L button essentially doesn't work, (the R button mostly does) but it's a button that was just held down in RE Revelations, not mashed hard. That wore some of it down at least, and I'm not sure about what the next part did, but I DID walk around everywhere for play coins. With the 3DS in my pocket, the shoulder buttons are still exposed when walking and sitting and are being pressed down a lot,while not even playing. This is also a device being sold for $170 now, so price was something Nintendo had in mind even after the drop from $250. I wouldn't be surprised if the stick is actually a fairly cheap material.

Like, I've never taken a stick out of a socket on any device, but the 3DS is the only device I can think of that has worn down so freaking quickly. I've only been able to use the Link Between Worlds Pegasus Boots like three times because the L button is so unreliable now

 

[EdreesesPieces]

The only time you'd need to smash it hard is to escape a grab. IN the interest of my 3DS at the cost of a few percentag per match (which could be huge) I'm going to only mash the buttons and L/R buttons when I try to break out of grabs.

 

[Itty Bit]

I have been playing the demo since i got the code , and before the demo i was playing Kid Icarus , and before Kid Icarus i was playing Super Street Fighter , and my Circle Pad is intact , it is not Nintendo fault if you play like animals

Actually that's exactly my position right now.
I've got my 3ds a month after it released in the US, so it's been about... 3 years, now? And me and my circle pad have gone through some rough adventures together, be it Street Fighter, to Kid Icarus, to the Smash Demo, and everything still works like a charm.

Nonetheless, I'll still send this PSA to my friends before the game to come out, because I don't exactly know how they handle their circle pads.

 

[Kalierdarke]

I have a feeling that it is partially with the "quality" of the 3DS's materials. Like, my L button essentially doesn't work, (the R button mostly does) but it's a button that was just held down in RE Revelations, not mashed hard. That wore some of it down at least, and I'm not sure about what the next part did, but I DID walk around everywhere for play coins. With the 3DS in my pocket, the shoulder buttons are still exposed when walking and sitting and are being pressed down a lot,while not even playing. This is also a device being sold for $170 now, so price was something Nintendo had in mind even after the drop from $250. I wouldn't be surprised if the stick is actually a fairly cheap material.

Like, I've never taken a stick out of a socket on any device, but the 3DS is the only device I can think of that has worn down so freaking quickly. I've only been able to use the Link Between Worlds Pegasus Boots like three times because the L button is so unreliable now

Everything breaks down after use, the more you use it, the faster it'll break. the way shoulder buttons are made in, well, anything, causes them to tend to break faster than anything else on a controller under "normal" use. The gamecube controller admittedly held up a lot better than most though, but I've seen(personally, friends, other people) many controllers other than gamecube where the shoulder buttons crapped out LONG before anything else on the controller.

And the 3DS dropping in price was because it wasn't selling, that's why people that bought one before the price drop obtained free games, as a thank you for supporting the system. The "quality" of the materials hasn't really changed from when the 3DS was release. if anything, they got better, as my XL holds up much better than my day 1 3DS did.

 

[mightyXtreme]

You guys didn't notice that all the systems shown to have it broken are already worn out all over? This isn't the game's fault in the slightest, and you shouldn't blame a game for something that you do. If the circle pad breaks, it means you were using it too aggressively. The game does not control how hard you press buttons and what not, it your fault and yours alone. This is not nintendo's fault, the game WAS built for the system and they knew something like this would happen eventually, but they can't do anything about it because it's not their system that it's being played on. Do not demand that nintendo replace your system if YOU break it, because it's not their fault. If it's under warrantee, that's perfectly fine but please don't turn this into another Mario Party suing situation.

 

[Dustination]

Hm, thats intresting. How do they go on anyway?

They just slip right over your regular circle pad:

The only downside, unfortunately, is that you're going to have trouble closing the system. You can easily take it off when you need to, though.

 

[Morbi]

Honestly, I have had no problems with this despite the notion that I was worried about it prior to launch.

 

[Reila]

If you guys are worried about your Circle Pads breaking, I really recommend you buy a pack of these:

I bought some recently on EBay for about $10, they feel great and the rubber probably won't fall off/tear. (I'm using bottom middle, it really feels like a Gamecube thumbstick!) Just look up 3DS Circlepad cover on Amazon/Ebay and you'll probably find some.

(I don't know if this has been posted already, sorry!)

Cool, thanks for the tip. I suppose it makes the circle pad feel less slippery too? I will see if I can buy one.

Fixed that for you.

You didn't fix anything.

 

[RNH]

The 3DS circle pad might wear off easily, the XL it is okay for now.
Just be nice to your 3ds unless you want to buy the New 3ds.

You don't have to buy a new 3DS if it does happen lol. Pop in back on or give it a dab with super glue, not that hard.

 

[Kalierdarke]

You don't have to buy a new 3DS if it does happen lol. Pop in back on or give it a dab with super glue, not that hard.

I believe they was talking about the New 3DS system itself with the "Unless you want to buy -the- New 3DS"

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

It's sad to hear reports of Circle Pads breaking, simply because of them being abused too much.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

It's sad to hear reports of Circle Pads breaking, simply because of them being abused too much.

It legit makes me sad to see a 3DS that is scared from abuse. you spent 100-200 For the 3DS and your doing to let the screen get super dirty. at least treat it like its your child

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

They just slip right over your regular circle pad:

The only downside, unfortunately, is that you're going to have trouble closing the system. You can easily take it off when you need to, though.

oooooooh k I think I saw someone talk about those before, I may invest it getting those, only problem is I'll have a hard time buying from online. stupid Moral issues

 

[XDaDePsak]

As everyone has already mentioned, you can just buy a replacement circle pad stick for $1.99

Can this thread die already?

 

[Dustination]

Cool, thanks for the tip. I suppose it makes the circle pad feel less slippery too? I will see if I can buy one.

Definitely, yeah.

 

[Poisonbeat]

They just slip right over your regular circle pad:

The only downside, unfortunately, is that you're going to have trouble closing the system. You can easily take it off when you need to, though.

Wow, that looks good, what is the name of the article?

 

[mario123007]

You don't have to buy a new 3DS if it does happen lol. Pop in back on or give it a dab with super glue, not that hard.

It will make your circle pad hard to move once it dries...............

 

[Dan]

Yeah you actually can't use the D-Pad for movement:

The control customisation screen involves you dragging the commands into the slots you want. As you can see, movement is not one of the options. The only control option that you can map to more than one button is "Jump".

Are these changes usable in the online modes?

 

[PeterJude]

The problem is that people aren't taking care of the 3DS. If they were then this wouldn't even be a thing. While there are a few people that wound up breaking their pads there are more that haven't broken it. And people are even saying that they've been playing rough or slamming the pad around. Therefore saying that it's Nintendo's fault for not making a pad better suited for this game is pointless if others are openly admitting to doing things that are pretty much wrecking their circle Pads.

Just because it's a minority that have suffered the problem doesn't mean that it's their fault that it's happening. A minority suffered many of the Xbox 360's little disasters (well, the overall release failrate was around 51%, but I'm talking the more spectacular problems), but that doesn't mean it their fault that it occurred.

The funny part is this assumption people are making is the a 'deadman's assumption', that it's not a problem until it happens to them, at which time you may end up being one of the most vocal people complaining, because you seem to come from a base of "I do things right, therefore there's no way there could be a problem". The biggest problem with this though, is if you are a true believer in a sense, and believe it to be your fault if it does break in normal use, and end up blaming yourself. The overall effect is this comes down to victim blaming. Just because they are the minority, just because you aren't having a problem (keep in mind I'm not having a problem either at this time) doesn't mean that there isn't one. Until we have more information, blaming the people who have having the problem, is in effect victim blaming and shaming, which is terrible in any context.

So basically, and this is coming from someone who takes ridiculously good care of my game consoles (pathologically good would be the right term, but that's a very long story), and to be honest I doubt that I'll ever have a problem with this. But if this many people are having problems, then the simple point is that it's clear that those sticks are a bit too fragile for gaming in the way people are accustomed too, and thankfully for my fellow Australians, the way our consumer laws read they should be able to get any problems fixed if such problems occur, because it seems to be a case of it not being fit for purpose.

 

[NefariousShyGuy]

As everyone has already mentioned, you can just buy a replacement circle pad stick for $1.99

Can this thread die already?

I'm not going to spend $1.99 plus shipping as a fee for every time that I break my circle pad. The point of this thread is to help people from preventing this mistake so they don't to need waste money and time getting a replacement.

 

[XDaDePsak]

I'm not going to spend $1.99 plus shipping as a fee for every time that I break my circle pad. The point of this thread is to help people from preventing this mistake so they don't to need waste money and time getting a replacement.

How often to you plan on breaking it, exactly?

 

[AntPlus]

Just because it's a minority that have suffered the problem doesn't mean that it's their fault that it's happening. A minority suffered many of the Xbox 360's little disasters (well, the overall release failrate was around 51%, but I'm talking the more spectacular problems), but that doesn't mean it their fault that it occurred.

The funny part is this assumption people are making is the a 'deadman's assumption', that it's not a problem until it happens to them, at which time you may end up being one of the most vocal people complaining, because you seem to come from a base of "I do things right, therefore there's no way there could be a problem". The biggest problem with this though, is if you are a true believer in a sense, and believe it to be your fault if it does break in normal use, and end up blaming yourself. The overall effect is this comes down to victim blaming. Just because they are the minority, just because you aren't having a problem (keep in mind I'm not having a problem either at this time) doesn't mean that there isn't one. Until we have more information, blaming the people who have having the problem, is in effect victim blaming and shaming, which is terrible in any context.

So basically, and this is coming from someone who takes ridiculously good care of my game consoles (pathologically good would be the right term, but that's a very long story), and to be honest I doubt that I'll ever have a problem with this. But if this many people are having problems, then the simple point is that it's clear that those sticks are a bit too fragile for gaming in the way people are accustomed too, and thankfully for my fellow Australians, the way our consumer laws read they should be able to get any problems fixed if such problems occur, because it seems to be a case of it not being fit for purpose.

Going to keep this short and sweet.

So with your 'deadman's assumption' theory I can say this. I have broken a 3DS circle pad playing Kid Iccurus Uprising because I was slamming the thing around like it was nothing and putting more pressure then needed and then it snapped and so I bought a new one. So I know what I'm talking about when it comes to the circle pad's durability. And another point to what you stated and I quote "it's not a problem until it happens to them." So if you take such good care of your things how is it that you're so sure that the 3DS' circle pad is 'too flimsy' when you have yet to go though it yourself without actually knowing how much pressure is needed for the pad to break.

 

[NefariousShyGuy]

How often to you plan on breaking it, exactly?

Never.

Anyway, I don't see why you're so eager on posting that $1.99 link whenever a broken circle pad is bought up in the boards. I've seen that same post like, three times now.

Certainly buying a replacement is an option if you accidentally break the circle pad, but that constant link posting basically means you encourage people to not be careful with their 3DS's and buy replacements instead. Some people prefer keeping their 3DS in one piece without buying replacements ya know.

 

[PKNinja95]

What the ****?!

They straight up murdered there 3DS

 

[PeterJude]

Going to keep this short and sweet.

So with your 'deadman's assumption' theory I can say this. I have broken a 3DS circle pad playing Kid Iccurus Uprising because I was slamming the thing around like it was nothing and putting more pressure then needed and then it snapped and so I bought a new one. So I know what I'm talking about when it comes to the circle pad's durability. And another point to what you stated and I quote "it's not a problem until it happens to them." So if you take such good care of your things how is it that you're so sure that the 3DS' circle pad is 'too flimsy' when you have yet to go though it yourself without actually knowing how much pressure is needed for the pad to break.

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No, no you don't know what you're talking about anymore than anyone else here. You have however demonstrated you are part of the sad group that blames themselves for a design flaw, and it sounds like in response to a faulty product, you went and gave the company at fault even more money for it.

I'm not saying I'm certain it's too flimsy, but rather there seems to be a large enough number of people having problems now, and in the past, that there does seem to be an issue. That's what's being discussed here. If it can break from play, it's faulty, so unless there is a huge subgroup who are actually getting a tool and breaking it off, then there seems to be an issue.

I don't know, it might just be the American "screw you, got mine" attitude coming out on here, I'm not sure, but where I come from the expectation is that a product can survive what it's designed to be used for, and we have laws protecting our consumers in such a case that they don't.

 

[Wyntir]

Warranty - no problem

Lay away - no problem

 

[aldelaro5]

Just for those who has this issues: if you've played melee before, the inputs in this game are more sensitive and you have more liberty to not move the stick that much quick.

What I mean is in melee, as you press A, you had to push it quite fast where the stick would hit the edge as your thumb pressed the A button.

In 3ds, you could gently pull the stick so that it feels like normal movement and push A and as long as you were holding all the way, it works as a smash.

So, if you got used to melee inputs, that may have been the problem and you would have to get used to the 3ds circle pad.

I had this issue until I knew about that and I was not aware I got this habits since melee, had the same in brawl, but it looks like this game will break it.

It's possible to avoid the break of the cover, but you can always put the cover back and just continue to use it.