Super Smash Bros 4 (Wii U/3DS) Topic

[PsychoIncarnate]

I don't think Nintendo understand how "You might also like" recommendations work

Just because I got Link's Adventure, it doesn't mean I like "Lego Friends"

 

[LiteralGrill]

Ah... my computer is fixed and I'm deep into a stage list discussion... It feels SO good to be back here full time!

On the note of stages, betcha Mario Galaxy is banned for "strange physics". If you don't believe me look at all the other stages banned for similar things. A shame as I can't wait to experiment with the weirdness it will offer.

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

Ah... my computer is fixed and I'm deep into a stage list discussion... It feels SO good to be back here full time!

On the note of stages, betcha Mario Galaxy is banned for "strange physics". If you don't believe me look at all the other stages banned for similar things. A shame as I can't wait to experiment with the weirdness it will offer.

It's not really weird physics. If you hit somebody on the slanted edge, they go diagonal. That's pretty much the only difference of note right now.

It's essentially a completely flat stage (like Bridge of Eldin, for example) that looks curved thanks to the gravity.

 

["Shion"]

I don't think Nintendo understand how "You might also like" recommendations work

Just because I got Link's Adventure, it doesn't mean I like "Lego Friends"

They don't care about what you like. That little program doesn't do what it says, either. They're just marketing their games in any and all ways.

 

[LiteralGrill]

It's not really weird physics. If you hit somebody on the slanted edge, they go diagonal. That's pretty much the only difference of note right now.

It's essentially a completely flat stage (like Bridge of Eldin, for example) that looks curved thanks to the gravity.

I still lack hope. Looking into things some stuff has literally been made up to support some bans for stages so I can't hope too much. I've noticed the "if it's different, ban it" attitude runs deep with many people.

Also as a hunch, I feel like somehow there are going to be ways to abuse the characteristics it offers. Obviously I have nothing real to back that up with though

More then anything though I sit worrying about how to avoid things that made the scene shrink over the years. A lot of that is unavoidable though sadly and no amount of stages will change that.

 

[Pazzo.]

I still lack hope. Looking into things some stuff has literally been made up to support some bans for stages so I can't hope too much. I've noticed the "if it's different, ban it" attitude runs deep with many people.

Also as a hunch, I feel like somehow there are going to be ways to abuse the characteristics it offers. Obviously I have nothing real to back that up with though

More then anything though I sit worrying about how to avoid things that made the scene shrink over the years. A lot of that is unavoidable though sadly and no amount of stages will change that.

I'm sorry, but run me up to speed, how could players exploit the Galaxy Stage? Cause' I'd love to see it in a competitive-type atmosphere.

 

[LiteralGrill]

I'm sorry, but run me up to speed, how could players exploit the Galaxy Stage? Cause' I'd love to see it in a competitive-type atmosphere.

I'm not sure, it's just a gut feeling. If it's in the 3DS version I promise to test it as soon as possible and get back to you.

 

[Pazzo.]

I'm not sure, it's just a gut feeling. If it's in the 3DS version I promise to test it as soon as possible and get back to you.

Alrighty. :D

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

I'm not sure, it's just a gut feeling. If it's in the 3DS version I promise to test it as soon as possible and get back to you.

Which it won't be, since Galaxy was quite obviously a console game.

 

[LiteralGrill]

Which it won't be, since Galaxy was quite obviously a console game.

Shh! Don't ruin his hopes and dreams! D:

 

[Robert of Normandy]

Galaxy looks like it's essentially a flat stage with no pitfalls, so it might have the same walkoff problem that other stages have.

Unless it's spherical, in which case Sakurai will have managed the impressive task of making a completely flat stage with no walkoffs and no pitfalls.

 

[Malion]

it might make straight path projectiles harder to gague than usual. at least in a visual sense... knowing where your blaster shot is going to land won't be immediately obvious.

 

["Shion"]

it might make straight path projectiles harder to gague than usual. at least in a visual sense... knowing where your blaster shot is going to land won't be immediately obvious.

I guess that's what they're going for as far as gimmicks are concerned.

 

[PLATINUM7]

I guess that's what they're going for as far as gimmicks are concerned.

I hope really gimmicky stages are kept to a minimum. It's okay to have some, but not a lot.

 

["Shion"]

I hope really gimmicky stages are kept to a minimum. It's okay to have some, but not a lot.

Yup. They had a little too many in brawl, so I hope they have a few
More tournament legal stages in the new game.

I DO want the music to stay the same... Brawls soundtrack rocked my tit$ off.

 

[Oasis_S]

Nah man, we need more gimmicky stages to drive out the competitive community for good before they ruin the series.

Every stage a new gimmick. That's the way it should be.

 

[PLATINUM7]

Quick question, would you prefer more gimmicky stages in the 3DS version, or the Wii U version?

 

[ChickenWing13]

Yup. They had a little too many in brawl, so I hope they have a few
More tournament legal stages in the new game.

I DO want the music to stay the same... Brawls soundtrack rocked my tit$ off.

In that case SSB4 will make you squeel like a pig.

 

[Malion]

I don't mind gimmicks but I find more and more that people define gimmick as a stage that isn't essentially a retextured battlefield.

moving stages are a hassle, but stages with unique obstacles are pretty cool. Big stages are good too, just don't have them super-zoomed out like new pork city.

 

[LiteralGrill]

Nah man, we need more gimmicky stages to drive out the competitive community for good before they ruin the series.

Every stage a new gimmick. That's the way it should be.

I missed you.

 

[The Original Robot boy]

Well im still waiting for my fav psy character

 

[Oasis_S]

Quick question, would you prefer more gimmicky stages in the 3DS version, or the Wii U version?

Each version should have more gimmicks than the other.

 

[PLATINUM7]

Each version should have more gimmicks than the other.

Stop it, you're hurting my brain.

 

[Malion]

face raiders stage with your face as an obstacle. and the background if your house.

 

[ChickenWing13]

Quick question, would you prefer more gimmicky stages in the 3DS version, or the Wii U version?

Since I'd have less of a problem smashing my 3DS screen rather than my 55" smart tv due to gimmicks I'd have to go with the 3DS.

Problem solved

 

[Moon Monkey]

Lets find ways to utterly destroy the Super Mario Galaxy stage's chances of being a competitive stage! ​

• Rosalina will appear in the background and flick her wand and the planet will begin to rotate.
  • Kinda like everyone's favorite stage:[collapse=Final Destination]
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• Bowser's Airship will bombard the stage with bombs!
• Bowser Jr. will occasionally float by in is clown-copter waving his paint brush creating paint puddles where everyone can trip!

 

[FinalStarmen]

Quick question, would you prefer more gimmicky stages in the 3DS version, or the Wii U version?

I'd prefer an equal balance in between both the home and handheld versions of this game, in that they at least share a good amount of non-gimmicky stages for the competitive environment. For example, it would be incredibly unfair for competitive owners of the 3DS version to be stuck with an over-abundance gimmicky stages, while the Wii U would have a greater range of selections for tournament-legal stages. I'd say for Masahiro Sakurai to attempt a balance for both versions as a means of appeasement.

 

[Jaedrik]

Ah... my computer is fixed and I'm deep into a stage list discussion... It feels SO good to be back here full time!
On the note of stages, betcha Mario Galaxy is banned for "strange physics". If you don't believe me look at all the other stages banned for similar things. A shame as I can't wait to experiment with the weirdness it will offer.

'Tis a sad thing indeed. Glad to have you back, sir!

 

[kikaru]

• Rosalina will appear in the background and flick her wand and the planet will begin to rotate.

They might as well package the game with the throne from Fresh Prince.

 

[Fastblade5035]

I'm pretty sure the Mario Galaxy stage will be round. The whole starship, but shrunk down. In that sense, I think it'll be similar to Temple in size, more or less.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

I'd prefer an equal balance in between both the home and handheld versions of this game, in that they at least share a good amount of non-gimmicky stages for the competitive environment. For example, it would be incredibly unfair for competitive owners of the 3DS version to be stuck with an over-abundance gimmicky stages, while the Wii U would have a greater range of selections for tournament-legal stages. I'd say for Masahiro Sakurai to attempt a balance for both versions as a means of appeasement.

Exactly this. I think we should have them in a similar sense to Melee. A seriously good mix of gimmick and non-gimmick.

There is nothing wrong with gimmick stages existing at all. But you need some easier to fight on stages as well. Smash 64 also wasn't that bad about this. Brawl had a super tiny list of easy to fight on stages compared to gimmicky ones. Brawl is about 64's ratio, though.

I mean, I don't want nothing but Final Destination/Battlefield/Smashville either. But I'd like something akin to Hyrule Castle, where its hazard isn't very heavy at all. It's a good one, but doesn't severely change games up. It's easy to avoid, too. Compared to Sector Z where its hazard can seriously change a game up and it's much harder to avoid in comparison. It's easy to see as well, but has a lot more power behind each hit than HC's Tornado... I think. And even then, Sector Z is still a good stage.

The only stage in 64 I think is really bad for competition is Mushroom Kingdom, and that's it. The rest aren't overwhelming at all. I can understand Planet Zebes being off due to the lava, mind you. And Saffron City's Pokemon can be problemsome, and obviously Ness shouldn't be forced on the stage. But the rest? Nah, not bad at all.

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

I'm pretty sure the Mario Galaxy stage will be round. The whole starship, but shrunk down. In that sense, I think it'll be similar to Temple in size, more or less.

But Starship Mario is a background element.

 

[Moon Monkey]

They might as well package the game with the throne from Fresh Prince.

And the game gets a special pre-order bonus of a google translate version of the theme song that only plays on this level and the *Spoilers* HD version of Brinstar depths

 

[Fastblade5035]

But Starship Mario is a background element.

My bad. In that case, planet.
(I only saw the pictures twice.)

 

[TheWhiteBowser]

They might as well package the game with the throne from Fresh Prince.

Will Smith confirmed for smash 4

 

[Oasis_S]

Will Smith confirmed for smash 4

Thanks to Miis.

 

[Moon Monkey]

Will Smith confirmed for smash 4

I want an Uncle Phil alt costume of Doc Louis!

 

[TheWhiteBowser]

Thanks to Miis.

 

[ChickenWing13]

Will Smith is excited to be a part of Sm4sh!

 

[8-peacock-8]

Smash confirmed 4 vita gaiz!!1!!!!11

https://twitter.com/Sora_Sakurai/status/401734295879827456