Super Smash Bros 4 (Wii U/3DS) Topic

[KingofPhantoms]

It's almost been an hour till the last post. I just saved your lives.

Anyways, who wants the next smash to have all walk off stages? WWHHHOOOO

 

[Johnknight1]

This is now the theme song of a majority of the Sonic Fanbase.

And a majority of the Fire Emblem Fanbase.

You can add the Pokémon fanbase tot his list (in regards to Smash 4).

Actually, aside from the people wanting Fire Emblem characters for Smash and all of the well... followers of a certain rule, the Fire Emblem fanbase is pretty good.

There's always Nana.

Nana: Everyone's fallback wh**r...


...at least when Meta Knight isn't around!!!

 

[BaPr]

Oh god, think of the horror in tournaments if that happened. If this happened, it would show that Sakurai really doesn't want a competitive smash.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

Oh god, think of the horror in tournaments if that happened. If this happened, it would show that Sakurai really doesn't want a competitive smash.

Then all hell would break loose.

Actually, that pretty much would be hell breaking loose.

 

[BaPr]

Then all hell would break loose.

Actually, that pretty much would be hell breaking loose.

Devil confirmed for smash!

 

[Bowserlick]

Pacman specials posted in Pacman thread.

 

[Rebellious Treecko]

Jack Sparrow's stage should be a walk-off stage.

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[KingofPhantoms]

Pacman specials posted in Pacman thread.

You're copying me!

then again I copied Golden first....

Jack Sparrow's stage should be a walk-off stage.

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If you none of you know what his Final Smash should truly be, then I am disappoint.

 

[LaniusShrike]

You're copying me!

then again I copied Golden first....



If you none of you know what his Final Smash should truly be, then I am disappoint.

... He summons the Kraken, jumps inside its mouth, climbs into its brain, and hijacks it to attack the enemy players?!

 

[Johnknight1]

Don't joke, there was a VERY serious group arguing for its legality for quite some time (Rumble Falls). In all reality, it kinda fell under the Mario Bros Phenomena is which it actually IS competitive, but no one would show up if it was legal.

Rumble Falls and Mario Bros. are both terrible stages that don't work competitively, and take away too much of the focus of the game on the stage. You literally have to fight the obstacles and the layout of the stage more than your opponent in competitive play, and that's a fact.

With Rumble Falls you have to deal with the awful layout, the traps, the random speed ups, and all the walk off areas that can lead to gimps. With Mario Bros. with the awful layout, being super prone to camping and stalling, and the enemies just getting in the way of everything.

Anyone arguing for those stages in regional/national/international tournaments is nothing short of a fool, and I highly doubt they have ever entered even a regional tournament. No one is going to put $20 on the line with stages that fight them as well as opponents. Besides, tournaments are finding out who are the best players, not which stages are the biggest douches to players. People play competitive smash to face players, not stages.

I wouldn't be surprised if that Rumble Falls group consisted of the same idiots who run the GameFAQs Smash Boards scene or are a part of SmashChu's anti-competitive cult.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

... He summons the Kraken, jumps inside its mouth, climbs into its brain, and hijacks it to attack the enemy players?!

Nope.

He steals your heart, puts it in a jar and then this happens-

 

[Johnknight1]

Well, would he really bring anything new to the table? As I and several others have said, he doesn't really bring anything interesting unlike Megaman, Sonic, and Snake.

Pacman is one of those characters that everyone knows, but no one really cares about either. His inclusions these days seem rather forced. I mean, if Capcom, the guys that came up with a working Phoenix Wright moveset, had to resort to a Mokujin mecha for Pacman, you know something's up.

Pac-Man has quite a few historic moves plus several platformer-esk moves he could use, but largely, he's a wild card and an empty slate, which IMO is part of the appeal. I mean seriously, Sakurai (with Miyamoto=???) could go any which direction with Pac-Man. With Mega Man... eh... we all pretty much figured it out.

http://nintendoeverything.com/sakur...rsion-look-fine-but-dont-do-the-game-justice/

Games not looking as good in screenshots on the 3DS is something that is pretty much the norm for the 3DS.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

TOPIC STARTING POWERS ACTIVATE!!!!!!

Who are your most wanted newcomers? (only one per series)

 

[Johnknight1]

My most wanted newcomer is Ridley followed closely behind by K. Rool, followed behind by a fair amount by Dixie Kong.

There are a few other reasonably possibly characters I like, but none that I get too excited thinking about being playable.

Ridley, King K Rool, Toad, Ghirahim
Takamaru, Little Mac, Shulk, Isaac
Pac-Man, Layton, Mewtwo, Roy

So, pick one grouping.

Cargo Shipping doesn't fall under Yaoi jurisdiction.

Nothing wrong with hauling a little cargo...

...whatever that is!!!

 

[Shorts]

First group for me of course.

I only did this because I wanted to see if people want to:

Expand current franchises

Add smaller franchises

Add third party / old characters

more.

 

[Fastblade5035]

I only did this because I wanted to see if people want to:

Expand current franchises

Add smaller franchises

Add third party / old characters

more.

I don't care if I'm expanding or reviving, Roy and Ghirahim ain't getting in on my watch. And you know what kind of watch I have.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

I only did this because I wanted to see if people want to:

Expand current franchises

Add smaller franchises

Add third party / old characters

more.

I thought you were just being evil.

 

[Johnknight1]

@ shortie
Truth be told, a mix of those three "rosters" would be best.

Preferably an old character (Mewtwo), 2 new gigantic franchise characters (Ridley and K. Rool), 2 smaller franchise characters (Shulk, Little Mac), and a bunch of less than expected characters would be the best way to go, along with maybe a new 3rd party character.

BTW, you left off any "less than expected" potential newcomers shortie. I assume you did that to not detract from your goal of said "poll." Would I be correct=???

All I saw was a moving train in the trailer, did I miss something? It looks like CP material possibly as of now.

No, the Spirit Tracks Spirit Train looks it will be almost universally banned material.
[collapse="Here is why the Spirit Tracks Spirit Train will inevitably be close to or actually universally banned at tournaments..."]
-It is a walk off stage, which is almost certainly a damning factor. If there will be chain grab or (near) inescapable vertical combos in Smash 3DS, it will be banned. Seeing as how every smash game beforehand has had one or both of these things, you can expect these things to return again, which thus means for that point alone you can expect this stage to be banned at almost every tournament and every regional/national/international tournament fairly early on.
-The stage doesn't have that Delfino Plaza/Mute City/Rainbow Cruise controlled look, and it looks like it has camping at specific spots.
-The wall will inevitably be a combo heavy spot, and with that roof above it, there could be something like the "fight pit" on the bottom of Hyrule Castle, which of course would be very bad for competitive high-level tournaments.
-The roofs are also pretty bad, again, because now with roof teching, and they can lead to even more of a "fight pit" element than was ever achievable in Melee.[/collapse]

 

[Swamp Sensei]

No, the Spirit Tracks Spirit Train looks it will be almost universally banned material.
[collapse="Here is why the Spirit Tracks Spirit Train will inevitably be close to or actually universally banned at tournaments..."]
-It is a walk off stage, which is almost certainly a damning factor. If there will be chain grab or (near) inescapable vertical combos in Smash 3DS, it will be banned. Seeing as how every smash game beforehand has had one or both of these things, you can expect these things to return again, which thus means for that point alone you can expect this stage to be banned at almost every tournament and every regional/national/international tournament fairly early on.
-The stage doesn't have that Delfino Plaza/Mute City/Rainbow Cruise controlled look, and it looks like it has camping at specific spots.
-The wall will inevitably be a combo heavy spot, and with that roof above it, there could be something like the "fight pit" on the bottom of Hyrule Castle, which of course would be very bad for competitive high-level tournaments.
-The roofs are also pretty bad, again, because now with roof teching, and they can lead to even more of a "fight pit" element than was ever achievable in Melee.[/collapse]

Not to mention that the train might be able to run people over. Killing them like Pirate Ship.

 

[Rebellious Treecko]

TOPIC STARTING POWERS ACTIVATE!!!!!!

Who are your most wanted newcomers? (only one per series)

Mario: Toad (or Bowser Jr/Waluigi)

Mario spin-offs: Paper Mario (or Fawful)

DK: K. Rool

Yoshi: Kamek (or Baby Bros)

Wario: Captain Syrup

Zelda: ???

Pokemon: N Harmonia (with Reshiram, Zekrom, and Zoroark; fights alongside his Pokemon like the Ice Climbers but can switch them out like Pokemon Trainer)

Pokemon spin-offs: Grovyle (PMD2)

Kirby: Gooey

Fire Emblem: Chrom (or Medeus/Micaiah/Robin)

Metroid: Ridley

Mother: Porky Minch

F-Zero: Samurai Goroh (or Black Shadow/Deathborn)

Star Fox: Krystal (or Slippy/Leon/Panther/Andross)

Pikmin: Louie

Kid Icarus: ???

Startropics: Mike Jones

Nazo no Murasame-jō: Takamaru

Punch-Out!!!: Little Mac

Duck Hunt: Duck Hunter (a.k.a, The Damn Dog or "Mr. Peepers")

Xenoblade: Scaled down Bionis Shulk

Golden Sun: Isaac

WTF: Flipnote Frog

Third Party: Sora

Not to mention that the train might be able to run people over. Killing them like Pirate Ship.

I actually encountered a glitch once where my character stayed stuck underneath the pirate ship taking damage instead of being KOd. I wish I could do that again.
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[Johnknight1]

Not to mention that the train might be able to run people over. Killing them like Pirate Ship.

If you're dumb enough to get hit by the train (unless it's like teams and you are getting 2 vs. 1'd) in a tournament, then you deserve to die... unless apparently being able to fight on top of the train is a thing, in which case, that would create even more camping and stalling and even planking issues, which is of itself a gigantic reason to ban this stage.

Still, even though the stage looks tournament-banned, at least it looks fun, unlike the original side scrolling "racing" stage, Big Blue.

I don't care if I'm expanding or reviving, Roy and Ghirahim ain't getting in on my watch. And you know what kind of watch I have.

But, but, but...

...my moveset idea for Roy based off his appearance in Fire Emblem: Sword of the Seals/The Binding Blade is very unique and would be really flashy and cool.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

Not to mention that the train might be able to run people over. Killing them like Pirate Ship.

Yikes, didn't think about that.

Why is it that stages from the Toon styled Zelda games like to run people over so much?

 

[Fastblade5035]

But, but, but...

...my moveset idea for Roy based off his appearance in Fire Emblem: Sword of the Seals/The Binding Blade is very unique and would be really flashy and cool.

Neeeope! First Chorm with his very unique spear and javelins that's really cool, then Lucina with her Meta Knight meets Captain Falcon play style, then Ephraim with his cool spear that's like Ike but faster, then Owain who has only taunts, then Lyn who *see: A good Lyn moveset* then Hector who is like Ike and Ephraim but uses an axe. Then I'll start scraping the bottom of the barrel, like Leif (a fast, weak, theif-like style) Sigurd (Is mounted on a horse and yes I can make it work,) and Alm who would be Ike but weaker and faster.
Then maybe I'll make Roy a Jigglypuff Clone. Robin/Avatar can be a Sandbag clone.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

I don't care if I'm expanding or reviving, Roy and Ghirahim ain't getting in on my watch. And you know what kind of watch I have.

A broken one.

 

[Fastblade5035]

A broken one.

SHUT UP, I CANT HELP IT IF IM POOR!
kidding

 

[KingofPhantoms]

Neeeope! First Chorm with his very unique spear and javelins that's really cool, then Lucina with her Meta Knight meets Captain Falcon play style, then Ephraim with his cool spear that's like Ike but faster, then Owain who has only taunts, then Lyn who *see: A good Lyn moveset* then Hector who is like Ike and Ephraim but uses an axe. Then I'll start scraping the bottom of the barrel, like Leif (a fast, weak, theif-like style) Sigurd (Is mounted on a horse and yes I can make it work,) and Alm who would be Ike but weaker and faster.
Then maybe I'll make Roy a Jigglypuff Clone. Robin/Avatar can be a Sandbag clone.

Best Smash roster ever.

Also, is there going to be an MNU tonight? (I forgot if there were specific days it happened other than the weekend)

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

SHUT UP, I CANT HELP IT IF IM POOR!
kidding

Point stands.

Anyway, day is well, blah blah blah. It should be a while before the next char reveal. How many have we had through June/July/August so far?

 

[Rebellious Treecko]

Today's pic is of the 3DS version. Hasn't fully updated yet.
Edit:

 

[Fastblade5035]

Best Smash roster ever.

Also, is there going to be an MNU tonight? (I forgot if there were specific days it happened other than the weekend)

They used to be Mondays through Thursday, but lately I've been to busy to prepare them. Think of it this way; we shouldn't even have one today anyways

 

[Fastblade5035]

Mario's FS?

 

[KingofPhantoms]

Mario's FS?

Improve it or lose it.

Mega Mario or Rainbow Mario would be cool otherwise.

Heading to bed soon, hopefully the pic will be up before 1:30 AM.

 

[Fastblade5035]

Improve it or lose it.

Mega Mario or Rainbow Mario would be cool otherwise.

Looks like it stayed the same to me.


UNLESS TWINROVA IS A STSAGE HAZARD AND SHE FIRES HER PHIR3 AND EYC???!!!


Wait, y'all can't see the pic of the day?

 

[Rebellious Treecko]

Mario's FS?

Probably a stage hazard.

Oh, and the bridge is broken, too.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Mario's FS?

It's Ridley's Final Smash.

 

[Fastblade5035]

Probably a stage hazard.

I'm betting on Mario's FS or Twinrova.

 

[Kamikazek]

Looks stage hazardy to me. Though I suppose it could be an aftermath from mario's final smash if it's been buffed to leave a crazy flame trail on the ground. But I'm still thinking stage hazard.

 

[aldelaro5]

New pic where does this fire come from?
http://www.smashbros.com/update/images/daily.jpg

EDIT: wow I got way too late sorry

 

[KingofPhantoms]

Mario's FS?

That looks like the pic from Friday on my screen.

 

[Fastblade5035]

That looks like the pic from Friday on my screen.

That's odd.
Basically, its Gerudo Valley, the bridge is broken, a huge wall of fire is behind Link who is seemingly jumping off the left side. Can't tell
A. Where the Fire is going/coming from
And
B. How it got there/why its there.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

I can't see the pic. D:

Ah well, bedtime for me.

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