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Super Heroes Mafia: Day 7 ends! Nabe and Circus wins! Zen dies in end game!

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No one has died!

Day 6 begins!

With 4 alive, it takes 3 to lynch.
A deadline has been set for Monday, May 23rd, at 3:00 p.m. EST


Votecount:

Radical Fiction - Red Ryu,

Not voting: Nabe, Zen, Radical Fiction,
 

Radical Fiction

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****ing morons. I haven't done jack **** that warrants a lynch. I've played to ****ing win the game. MY SCUM PICKS HAVE BEEN ****ING RIGHT ALL ****ING GAME!

If there is a kill, you know it can't be preformed with Nabe blocked (I assume that's who Ruy blocked because I got no message). Nabe is the one pushing his plan that isn't foolproof. Lynch him, then we can talk about me.

Vote Nabe
 

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****ing morons. I haven't done jack **** that warrants a lynch. I've played to ****ing win the game. MY SCUM PICKS HAVE BEEN ****ING RIGHT ALL ****ING GAME!

If there is a kill, you know it can't be preformed with Nabe blocked (I assume that's who Ruy blocked because I got no message). Nabe is the one pushing his plan that isn't foolproof. Lynch him, then we can talk about me.

Vote Nabe
 

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Votecount:

Radical Fiction - Red Ryu,
Nabe - Radical Fiction,

Not voting: Nabe, Zen,

With 4 alive, it takes 3 to lynch.
A deadline has been set for Monday, May 23rd, at 3:00 p.m. EST

 

Radical Fiction

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Sweet Virgin Mary at a strip club, why are you making me have to rethink everything?

You got my attention Nabe, I'm rereading.
 

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Because I'll be an easier target toMorrow for an ML than he will.

Answer my question.
This makes little sense. You think I'm town, I assume you think Ryu is town, and you think Rad is scum. So why would you not want to lynch him today? How would him being alive tomorrow be good?

It's you or him either way. I'm not lynching Ryu today or tomorrow. And I don't think he's lynching me either. This response from the two of you is really weird. I don't understand why you would offer yourself up for a sacrifice to keep someone alive that you think is scum.

You said you're an easier mislynch than Rad, how is this so? And what does it matter if we are lynching one of you two either way?
 

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Zen, in a hypothetical situation where a two man voteblock was formed where Nabe and I forced you to choose between lynching Red Ruy then choosing which of us to lynch if we were wrong and No Lynching, what would you do once it became clear that we wouldn't move?
 

#HBC | Nabe

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Upon rereading, you saw that Zen had, at one point or another, listed every flipped scum member as a scum pick. His play and intent feel genuine to Zentown, and you don't think he's scum because he's actively working with you. Is that correct?

You go on to say that you think Ryker is more angry and seems to be trying harder to survive. You think that it's plausible he's a mafia traitor or indy, because he's been less helpful to town than in previous days.

You then ask me why I think Zen is scum, and say that his play is better compared to earlier Days. I agree with that, and his play (doing odd things) isn't an issue. I do think there's a case to be made for Zen scum w.r.t. him having motive to bus his scummates -- but I don't think he's who I'm looking for, because as you know, I think Circus/Hep is the faction with a living partner.

What aspects of my ideas about Circus/Hep do you agree with? Respond in the QT.
 

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Zen, in a hypothetical situation where a two man voteblock was formed where Nabe and I forced you to choose between lynching Red Ruy then choosing which of us to lynch if we were wrong and No Lynching, what would you do once it became clear that we wouldn't move?
I'm not lynching Ryu. The game would stall until Nabe lynched you.
 

#HBC | Nabe

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This makes little sense. You think I'm town, I assume you think Ryu is town, and you think Rad is scum. So why would you not want to lynch him today? How would him being alive tomorrow be good?

It's you or him either way. I'm not lynching Ryu today or tomorrow. And I don't think he's lynching me either. This response from the two of you is really weird. I don't understand why you would offer yourself up for a sacrifice to keep someone alive that you think is scum.

You said you're an easier mislynch than Rad, how is this so? And what does it matter if we are lynching one of you two either way?
If he goes toDay and he's town, then toMorrow I'll be lynched without a doubt. If he's town, then I'd rather he's here toMorrow than me. He's more persuasive. I'd also feel better not having to make the choice, to be honest. I've barely had a chance to wrap my head around the setup this game, aside from what I've discussed with Ryu.

Lynching between Ryker and I is the wrong philosophy. ToDay, I should go, and toMorrow should be about cases and proof.
 

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If we lynch you and you flip town, we are just going to lynch Rad tomorrow o.o

plus Ryu already roleblocked you. I'd rather be on the safe side. And roleblock whoever isn't being lynched.
 

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Ryu is town because of the way he reacted when I was calling you out on D3 for the faulty guilty. Plus I've been able to follow his thought process with everything and all his reactions have seemed genuine to me. His claim and character also line up.
 

Radical Fiction

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If we lynch you and you flip town, we are just going to lynch Rad tomorrow o.o

plus Ryu already roleblocked you. I'd rather be on the safe side. And roleblock whoever isn't being lynched.
Second half of the post is what I was concerned about. You've forced me to make my decision now with the first half of your post though. If Nabe is scum and not a nonkilling role, tomorrow he won't be blocked and he'll kill you or me and win the game. However, if he's town, you'll mislynch me tomorrow and we'll also lose the game. So I have to manage to figure out which of you is scum today and then see if there's a tomorrow.

@Zen - Why is RR obv town? What have I done to make you think I'm scum?
@Nabe - I will not buy Zen scum. He was trying too hard yesterday when he could've just let you get me then get you and Beatstick lynched. No one would've lynched him for it.
@RR - Aside from the claim being full of holes, why should I vote Nabe, especially with that ultimatum from Zen?
 

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Ryu is town because of the way he reacted when I was calling you out on D3 for the faulty guilty. Plus I've been able to follow his thought process with everything and all his reactions have seemed genuine to me. His claim and character also line up.
What was that reaction?
 

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@RR - Aside from the claim being full of holes, why should I vote Nabe, especially with that ultimatum from Zen?
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****ing morons. I haven't done jack **** that warrants a lynch. I've played to ****ing win the game. MY SCUM PICKS HAVE BEEN ****ING RIGHT ALL ****ING GAME!

If there is a kill, you know it can't be preformed with Nabe blocked (I assume that's who Ruy blocked because I got no message). Nabe is the one pushing his plan that isn't foolproof. Lynch him, then we can talk about me.

Vote Nabe
 

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Upon rereading, you saw that Zen had, at one point or another, listed every flipped scum member as a scum pick. His play and intent feel genuine to Zentown, and you don't think he's scum because he's actively working with you. Is that correct?

You go on to say that you think Ryker is more angry and seems to be trying harder to survive. You think that it's plausible he's a mafia traitor or indy, because he's been less helpful to town than in previous days.

You then ask me why I think Zen is scum, and say that his play is better compared to earlier Days. I agree with that, and his play (doing odd things) isn't an issue. I do think there's a case to be made for Zen scum w.r.t. him having motive to bus his scummates -- but I don't think he's who I'm looking for, because as you know, I think Circus/Hep is the faction with a living partner.

What aspects of my ideas about Circus/Hep do you agree with? Respond in the QT.
 

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They are linked. That's indisputable, but they were obviously two different slots. I sincerely doubt there are multiple mafia factions which is what is saving your ***. If there's a mafia, it's you. If not, then Red Ruy is a possible avenue that I can't access without you if Zen is being pig headed.
 

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Two-Face. He flips a coin to determine what he does, that's his thing. And there hasn't been a coin since Circus died.

Night 1, two kills. One of them seems to be Gheb, targeting X1 (Harley). The other was Raj, the Tick. There was a coin, facing tails.
Night 2, one kill. JTB, ??? flip. Coin facing tails. Circus told us at the time that JTB wasn't town.
Night 3, one kill. Gheb, Wolverine. Coin facing tails.

My theory is that it controlled their factional night kill. The image was at the start of the post, for one. We know Circus didn't have the ability to hide flips, because assuming they could kill every Night as well, the hiding would've kicked off either every Night or never. It wasn't the investigative ability of Hep; Harvey Dent embodies the heads side of Two-Face, and being a different slot, Hep probably had its own investigation.

Now, there's also been no kills since Circus died. This could be because there's no mafia left, implying an indy remains. But I don't think that's the case. I think the real reason has to do with multiple factions.

Tails is likely a positive result. Two-Face traditionally flips a coin that has heads on both sides, one side scratched out, but a picture of that in write-ups would be a flatout giveaway. The scratched side, though, would be the one that's an affirmative result.

OS doesn't use role colours randomly. I think that there were two factions. And I think they each had a kill. I think the coin determined whether or not Circus had a night kill. And I think he had a string of good luck. I think he shot X1, and then JTB, and finally Gheb. The lack of coins and the lack of kills, combined with his death, makes me think he was behind them. That would mean Gheb no-shot the whole way through, which I believe to be the case.

I think that JTB's ??? flip was actually Joker, paired with Harley. I think that Circus eradicated them, knocking out their night kill. I don't think there are any roles left with a night kill, because I really think they would've shot last Night, and certainly would've shot the Nights before that. I think we're looking for an indy, or a mafia who has no kill, which is plausible if Circus was their only killer. The only hangup is that you were jailed by Beat the night Gheb died.

I think if you were mafia with a kill, you'd have killed one of Zen/Ryu and pushed through my ML. And I think if you were mafia without a kill, you'd have immediately started toDay by appealing to me, rather than to lynch me, to hope I could convince Ryu to lynch Zen. So I think if you're anything, it's indy.

Zen isn't mafia, Ryu has that right. He could be indy.

Ryu could be mafia. And the more I hear from him, the more I think it's the case. His vote went all over the place this game, because he backed down a lot. He told Zen about what I'd told him about Circus/Hep the second he asked. Because he asked. And in D3, he was so ready to lynch Zen, roleblocked him and everything. And then just gave up on it immediately. All of this feels like his scum play in FE -- pensive, not knowing what it is he should be doing.

So I'd like to be lynched, and have you three weigh all of that toMorrow.
 

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Two-Face. He flips a coin to determine what he does, that's his thing. And there hasn't been a coin since Circus died.

Night 1, two kills. One of them seems to be Gheb, targeting X1 (Harley). The other was Raj, the Tick. There was a coin, facing tails.
Night 2, one kill. JTB, ??? flip. Coin facing tails. Circus told us at the time that JTB wasn't town.
Night 3, one kill. Gheb, Wolverine. Coin facing tails.

My theory is that it controlled their factional night kill. The image was at the start of the post, for one. We know Circus didn't have the ability to hide flips, because assuming they could kill every Night as well, the hiding would've kicked off either every Night or never. It wasn't the investigative ability of Hep; Harvey Dent embodies the heads side of Two-Face, and being a different slot, Hep probably had its own investigation.

Now, there's also been no kills since Circus died. This could be because there's no mafia left, implying an indy remains. But I don't think that's the case. I think the real reason has to do with multiple factions.

Tails is likely a positive result. Two-Face traditionally flips a coin that has heads on both sides, one side scratched out, but a picture of that in write-ups would be a flatout giveaway. The scratched side, though, would be the one that's an affirmative result.

OS doesn't use role colours randomly. I think that there were two factions. And I think they each had a kill. I think the coin determined whether or not Circus had a night kill. And I think he had a string of good luck. I think he shot X1, and then JTB, and finally Gheb. The lack of coins and the lack of kills, combined with his death, makes me think he was behind them. That would mean Gheb no-shot the whole way through, which I believe to be the case.

I think that JTB's ??? flip was actually Joker, paired with Harley. I think that Circus eradicated them, knocking out their night kill. I don't think there are any roles left with a night kill, because I really think they would've shot last Night, and certainly would've shot the Nights before that. I think we're looking for an indy, or a mafia who has no kill, which is plausible if Circus was their only killer. The only hangup is that you were jailed by Beat the night Gheb died.

I think if you were mafia with a kill, you'd have killed one of Zen/Ryu and pushed through my ML. And I think if you were mafia without a kill, you'd have immediately started toDay by appealing to me, rather than to lynch me, to hope I could convince Ryu to lynch Zen. So I think if you're anything, it's indy.

Zen isn't mafia, Ryu has that right. He could be indy.

Ryu could be mafia. And the more I hear from him, the more I think it's the case. His vote went all over the place this game, because he backed down a lot. He told Zen about what I'd told him about Circus/Hep the second he asked. Because he asked. And in D3, he was so ready to lynch Zen, roleblocked him and everything. And then just gave up on it immediately. All of this feels like his scum play in FE -- pensive, not knowing what it is he should be doing.

So I'd like to be lynched, and have you three weigh all of that toMorrow.
 
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