Sunrise, Sunset - Isaac for Smash Ultimate #GoldenSunday

[SonicLink125]

Too bad it'll take 10 games to get Sakurai to add support for F-Zero and have 2 playable reps in base.

Total.

Just know this, when and if I (we all) see a new F-Zero rep being a new character (echo or not), I will be jumping with joy for you and all F-Zero fans. And I will say, "It's about dang time!" I think I've said that line about Simon and K. Rool too actually. Haha!

 

[N3ON]

I’m dying to know what Retro Studios is working on. I forget, does anybody know what Next Level Games and the ARMS team are working on? Would love either a new Punch-Out or a new ARMS.

Star Fox Grand Prix, Luigi's Mansion 3, Mario Kart 9 respectively.

 

[XenoWarriorX]

Yeah...keep pumping out Mario Kart Nintendo.

Out of ideas my ass. You guys lost any will to create new ones when you took from an existing franchise like F-Zero.

 

[JaidynReiman]

Star Fox Grand Prix, Luigi's Mansion 3, Mario Kart 9 respectively.

Well, just to clarify for GoodGrief's sake, Star Fox Grand Prix is not confirmed. Its a rumor. Mario Kart 9 isn't even a rumor. Its not been hinted at in any way, just speculated online to be coming to Switch (which IMO probably isn't happening).


Next Level is basically guaranteed to be working on Luigi's Mansion 3, though.

 

[GoodGrief741]

Star Fox Grand Prix, Luigi's Mansion 3, Mario Kart 9 respectively.

Star Fox Grand Prix has to be bull**** though. Is Mario Kart 9 confirmed? First I’ve heard of it.

Edit: ah, thanks JaidynReiman

 

[N3ON]

Well, just to clarify for GoodGrief's sake, Star Fox Grand Prix is not confirmed. Its a rumor. Mario Kart 9 isn't even a rumor. Its not been hinted at in any way, just speculated online to be coming to Switch (which IMO probably isn't happening).


Next Level is basically guaranteed to be working on Luigi's Mansion 3, though.

You're right, 2/3 aren't official. But that's what's coming.

Star Fox Grand Prix has to be bull**** though. Is Mario Kart 9 confirmed? First I’ve heard of it.

Edit: ah, thanks JaidynReiman

Why does it have to be bull****? Because we've yet to see it?

That outweighs the separate testimonies from the bulk of the industry?

 

[jweb23]

*sob* I lost mo ey at the casino toknight


They're too busy ignoring advance wars lol

Also code name steam was so random. Why did they think that was a good idea

I swear I’m pretty much the only person in the world that actually liked Codename Steam. Lol

 

[Kalaam]

Lol, the leak of yesterday already got archived xD Maybe he was onto something

 

[Deleted member]

You mean the countdown? Or was there something else? The only thing I saw was a photoshop picture of Shantae in the Smash mural.

Would not mind if she got in honestly.

But I guess there was some leaks I missed?

Hopefully some with the Venus Psyenergy master in them.

 

[Kalaam]

The one I shared before, with Isaac moveset in it.

 

[Dionaea_floridensis]

"We're proud to announce Golden Sun-themed Fortnite skins will bw available right after this direct"

 

[clearandsweet]

"We're proud to announce Golden Sun-themed Fortnite skins will bw available right after this direct"

Golden Sun focus banner in Fire Emblem Heroes. First crossover banner. Screw Advance Wars or Zelda.

New Xenobade Chronicles 2 Torna DLC featuring the adepts of Golden Sun.

Isaac and Jenna as drivers in Mario Kart 8, complete with the Lemurian Ship kart.

New Piers mode in Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze.

Strangely, no announcement of any Golden Sun representation in Smash Bros Ultimate.

 

[SonicLink125]

Golden Sun focus banner in Fire Emblem Heroes. First crossover banner. Screw Advance Wars or Zelda.

New Xenobade Chronicles 2 Torna DLC featuring the adepts of Golden Sun.

Isaac and Jenna as drivers in Mario Kart 8, complete with the Lemurian Ship kart.

New Piers mode in Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze.

Strangely, no announcement of any Golden Sun representation in Smash Bros Ultimate.

Not gonna lie, but I actually would want all of that!

 

[LegendOfDragoon]

be sure to send it to smashburb

Also make a separate one where you read the whole Lord Rattergun topic

 

[Q-Long]

I swear I’m pretty much the only person in the world that actually liked Codename Steam. Lol

I haven't played it so I can't hate it

I was just wondering why they thought it would sell well, I can't think of an audience Intelligent Systems could have marketed to with it.

Advance Wars - where is AW?
Metroid - where is Metroid?
Fire Emblem - Okay... so I can use FE amiibo in it and???

It was so not similar to anything they did. With Splatoon it had the fact it was a flag ship Switch game and all these vibrant colors, both showing a new type of environment Nintendo hasn't done much (urban graffiti) and while pulling on nostalgic heart strings (Jet Set Radio and Mario Sunshine).

Steam Punk isn't really that new and the gameplay was not really dynamic (I not saying its bad, saying its very hard to market)

http://www.vgchartz.com/game/83038/code-name-steam/ It sold very poorly, obviously does not mean its a bad game. I love the art style too, Marth looks so cute in that style. Also an assist trophy would be cool.

 

[TappyBat]

I liked codename steam. It was just hard. lol

 

[TBone06]

So fun story. Due to the lull of information for ultimate, I decided I needed a new game to play. I've tried out Golden Sun briefly, but never got very far into it. I decided I was going to give it a go and get through it all this time. Anyways, I just finished it last night, and I have to say, I loved it. I've been a big RPG guy growing up. I loved Final Fantasy. Super Mario RPG was a big game for me. Always enjoyed Paper Mario, and other smaller franchises (Lufia, Chrono Trigger, etc.) Golden Sun had a lot of the same pleasures as some of the games I mentioned. Great characters that you can get attached to, solid gameplay, enough unique things about it to differentiate it from the others (I really liked the Djinni systems). I've shown my support for Isaac before, but I always felt it wasn't as honest as the people in here as it was more for you guys, or his fans and not about the attachment to the character. But now I can say I can that I do have that personal experience. So I really hope he gets in as I can see why there is so much support for him, because even as a silent protagonist, he represents something awesome. Just thought I'd share.

 

[Holdenon]

We're getting so close to December 7th, and we will know everything by then. 54/55 days left. This game is going to be amazing.

 

[TappyBat]

We're getting so close to December 7th, and we will know everything by then. 54/55 days left. This game is going to be amazing.

Hopefully with Isaac included

 

[Aeon Lupin]

HAHAHAHA YES!! Bayo's up air failed to kill Snake at 170% off the top of battle field! According to the current math, her up air has been COMPLETELY NEUTERED! I love Bayonetta's character and her games, but I won't miss her dominating Smash at all. One of the least fun characters to fight AND play

I knew it was getting nerfed to oblivion after hearing from people at E3 that Sakurai shook his head upon seeing her kill Ridley with it from low percent during the invitational. What makes it more hilarious, is the possibility that Sakurai wasn't even aware of how op Bayo was during Smash 4.

 

[Delta64]

Here is a little history lesson/reminder of what happened in 2014. The Super Smash Bros. for Wii U game was first released on November 21, 2014 (in North America). Nearly one month earlier, on October 23, 2014 Nintendo had the Wii U 50-fact Extravaganza video (the last Smash presentation video before its release).

If a similar thing happens this time around that would likely give us a presentation roughly one month before the December 7, 2018 release, likely around November 7, 2018. (I understand that Ultimate and Smash 4 have been handled differently in terms of prerelease presentation, this is just a reminder).

 

[FlawedAI]

Here is a little history lesson/reminder of what happened in 2014. The Super Smash Bros. for Wii U game was first released on November 21, 2014 (in North America). Nearly one month earlier, on October 23, 2014 Nintendo had the Wii U 50-fact Extravaganza video (the last Smash presentation video before its release).

If a similar thing happens this time around that would likely give us a presentation roughly one month before the December 7, 2018 release, likely around November 7, 2018. (I understand that Ultimate and Smash 4 have been handled differently in terms of prerelease presentation, this is just a reminder).

I'd be so down for another one of these. Xander's beautiful voice showing off stuff like bosses and stages would be amazing.

 

[XenoWarriorX]

Sorry to say, but N3ON might be right.
Star Fox racing has been heavily rumored.
And Mario Kart 9? Yeah, they would have Mario Kart's team just continuously making mario kart games because Nintendo just does it for money. And only money.

At this point, I'm just tired of this Mario kart series. I never thought I'd ask for a popular franchise to take a break, but GDI take a ****ing break.

Edit: In fact, Take a 13 year break. See how the ****ing Mario Kart fans like it.

 

[SonicLink125]

So fun story. Due to the lull of information for ultimate, I decided I needed a new game to play. I've tried out Golden Sun briefly, but never got very far into it. I decided I was going to give it a go and get through it all this time. Anyways, I just finished it last night, and I have to say, I loved it. I've been a big RPG guy growing up. I loved Final Fantasy. Super Mario RPG was a big game for me. Always enjoyed Paper Mario, and other smaller franchises (Lufia, Chrono Trigger, etc.) Golden Sun had a lot of the same pleasures as some of the games I mentioned. Great characters that you can get attached to, solid gameplay, enough unique things about it to differentiate it from the others (I really liked the Djinni systems). I've shown my support for Isaac before, but I always felt it wasn't as honest as the people in here as it was more for you guys, or his fans and not about the attachment to the character. But now I can say I can that I do have that personal experience. So I really hope he gets in as I can see why there is so much support for him, because even as a silent protagonist, he represents something awesome. Just thought I'd share.

You are now officially a fellow Adept! Welcome to the House of the Golden Sun!

But in all seriousness, thank you for taking the time to play it all the way through! Hope you'll be able to play the second half, The Lost Age, as well.

It's really a great, special time for us RPGbros (Isaac, Geno, Lloyd, etc.) to come together and support our favorite RPG heroes. I really hope we all finally get our time to shine!

 

[Oracle_Summon]

Sorry to say, but N3ON might be right.
Star Fox racing has been heavily rumored.
And Mario Kart 9? Yeah, they would have Mario Kart's team just continuously making mario kart games because Nintendo just does it for money. And only money.

Found the source about Brownie Brown leaving and forming their own company: https://www.sourcegaming.info/2018/05/22/kameoka-interview/

Spoiler

Kameoka: One of the reasons I originally left Squaresoft back then in the first place is because they wanted me to make Final Fantasy games and I wasn’t really interested in the 3D art style and the direction that Final Fantasy was going in back in 2000. So he went to Brownie Browns to make my own games and so they were focused on Nintendo games for Nintendo consoles. At one point, Nintendo asked Brownie Browns to help out with a Mario game. And I was like “That’s not really what I want to do. I want to do my own thing!”
And so the younger people who wanted to make a Mario game stayed on as 1-Up Studios and then the other people who were interested in doing their own projects went to Brownie. So it was two different times he was asked to work on games in as art director or about characters and series I wasn’t interested in working on.

That sucks. Hopefully 1-Up studios is the only studios that Nintendo plans on changing. They lost some serious talent when a good portion of the Brownie Brown team left. Nintendo needs to leave their other studios alone to their own devices.
Nintendo needs to butt out and let their other studios create their own things. If they need an old franchise back then give the studio enough money to remake the old game and give them limitless resources for any New IP they want to work on.
It stinks I will probably never see the Magical Starsign series ever again.
Edit: Just imagining Nintendo re-purposing all their developer studios for Mario games makes my skin crawl. Hopefully Monolith Soft's success has proven to Nintendo that companies are best left to their own devices.

 

[XenoWarriorX]

https://smashboards.com/members/xenowarriorx.403337/

Found the source about Brownie Brown leaving and forming their own company: https://www.sourcegaming.info/2018/05/22/kameoka-interview/

Spoiler

Kameoka: One of the reasons I originally left Squaresoft back then in the first place is because they wanted me to make Final Fantasy games and I wasn’t really interested in the 3D art style and the direction that Final Fantasy was going in back in 2000. So he went to Brownie Browns to make my own games and so they were focused on Nintendo games for Nintendo consoles. At one point, Nintendo asked Brownie Browns to help out with a Mario game. And I was like “That’s not really what I want to do. I want to do my own thing!”
And so the younger people who wanted to make a Mario game stayed on as 1-Up Studios and then the other people who were interested in doing their own projects went to Brownie. So it was two different times he was asked to work on games in as art director or about characters and series I wasn’t interested in working on.

That sucks. Hopefully 1-Up studios is the only studios that Nintendo plans on changing. They lost some serious talent when a good portion of the Brownie Brown team left. Nintendo needs to leave their other studios alone to their own devices.
Nintendo needs to butt out and let their other studios create their own things. If they need an old franchise back then give the studio enough money to remake the old game and give them limitless resources for any New IP they want to work on.
It stinks I will probably never see the Magical Starsign series ever again.

I kinda knew that for awhile.

Nintendo thought Fantasy life was a giant flop, so they made themselves a Mario-IP orietated studio because Nintendo doesn't like trying new things.

I hate Nintendo.

 

[Oracle_Summon]

I kinda knew that for awhile.

Nintendo thought Fantasy life was a giant flop, so they made themselves a Mario-IP orietated studio because Nintendo doesn't like trying new things.

I hate Nintendo.

It was a dumb decision all together. If they really needed a Mario esque team, then why not just form a new studio with the Brownie Brown employees that wanted to make the new Mario game and give resources for the original Brownie Brown team to hire new talent.

If Nintendo keeps slashing and driving off all the talent at their studios then their quality in games will drop drastically. Hopefully it starts and ends only with Brownie Brown. Still, why would you risk them leaving?
They had nearly all the talented RPG teams of golden-era Square. Just imagine a big scale Secret of Mana game for Switch.

 

[XenoWarriorX]

It was a dumb decision all together. If they really needed a Mario esque team, then why not just form a new studio with the Brownie Brown employees that wanted to make the new Mario game and give resources for the original Brownie Brown team to hire new talent.

If Nintendo keeps slashing and driving off all the talent at their studios then their quality in games will drop drastically. Hopefully it starts and ends only with Brownie Brown. Still, why would you risk them leaving?
They had nearly all the talented RPG teams of golden-era Square. Just imagine a big scale Secret of Mana game for Switch.

Because Nintendo didn't care.

Why the heck do they want FE instead of AW? Doesn't drive as much money. So Nintendo doesn't care.

F-Zero? Not Mario Kart. **So Nintendo doesn't care.**

Why do they ask for Camelot for sports games instead of Golden sun? *Money. If it doesn't sell, Nintendo doesn't care.*

So incredibly shallow that company is.

 

[TheSpaceKing12]

I kinda knew that for awhile.

Nintendo thought Fantasy life was a giant flop, so they made themselves a Mario-IP orietated studio because Nintendo doesn't like trying new things.

I hate Nintendo.

Yet they provide the content you still want. Sounds less like hate and more like an abusive love hate relationship XD

 

[Oracle_Summon]

Because Nintendo didn't care.

Why the heck do they want FE instead of AW? Doesn't drive as much money. So Nintendo doesn't care.

Granted in those situations Fire Emblem was needed to breath life back into the franchise and put Intelligent Systems back on the map, but they do seriously need to let Intelligent System's other franchises come back to the spot light. Keeping Intelligent Systems on only Fire Emblem will eventually burn out the employees.

F-Zero? Not Mario Kart. **So Nintendo doesn't care.**

The Issue with F-Zero is that Nintendo has no in team that could make the games back to the Golden Era of the Gamecube days.

Why do they ask for Camelot for sports games instead of Golden sun? *Money. If it doesn't sell, Nintendo doesn't care.*

So incredibly shallow that company is.

Granted, in Camelot's case the original Golden Sun had left and the Takahashi brothers were not confident that the team could handle an RPG at such a large scope.
Edit: what Camelot needs are more employees that could help with the RPG development process.

To be honest, Nintendo needs to have more confidence in their pre-existing franchises and actually market them.

Nintendo also needs to just let all their studios do their own thing or better yet take this approach:

1. Have a studios that is interested and could possibly breathe life into pre-existing franchises.
2. Let the studios work on their own franchises/develop new IPs
3. Give the companies all the resources they need to make the games.
4. Don't let developers like Shigeru Miyamoto butt heads with other developer leads. Seriously, Shigeru Miyamoto insisted that the Gamepad controls of Star Fox Zero be added when it only hindered the game. Hopefully, Nintendo learned this and are telling Miyamoto to keep his nose out.

 

[TappyBat]

so no golden sun then? :<

 

[Oracle_Summon]

so no golden sun then? :<

The Camelot team we have now are still capable of making a great interactive world for the Golden Sun franchise, but they do not have a large enough team to make the game expansive for the Switch and RPG giants like Monolith Soft would be beneficial to guiding them in recreating the franchise.

Nintendo wants more franchises and needs more since their biggest franchises have already been announced for Switch:

• Metroid Prime 4 is coming
• Yoshi Crafted World is on the way
• Kirby Star Allies is the newest in the Kirby franchise
• Fire Emblem The Three Houses is upcoming
• Pokemon Switch is on the way

Nintendo is capable of gathering a perfect team to work on Golden Sun and it looks like they will.

 

[TappyBat]

those all sell gang busters and haven't been rotting in a hole for 8 years. and is camelot even still interested? they seem busy with those terrible sports games

 

[TBone06]

You are now officially a fellow Adept! Welcome to the House of the Golden Sun!

But in all seriousness, thank you for taking the time to play it all the way through! Hope you'll be able to play the second half, The Lost Age, as well.

It's really a great, special time for us RPGbros (Isaac, Geno, Lloyd, etc.) to come together and support our favorite RPG heroes. I really hope we all finally get our time to shine!

I certainly plan on playing The Lost Age. Going through Mario RPG again before that.

Happy to get Adept status! Like you said, it certainly is a special time.

 

[TheSpaceKing12]

Because Nintendo didn't care.

Why the heck do they want FE instead of AW? Doesn't drive as much money. So Nintendo doesn't care.

F-Zero? Not Mario Kart. **So Nintendo doesn't care.**

Why do they ask for Camelot for sports games instead of Golden sun? *Money. If it doesn't sell, Nintendo doesn't care.*

So incredibly shallow that company is.

Because not a single title in the advanced wars series was selling worth investing in. Capping out around 700K for the first entry. And critical quality gradually went down between entries. A lot of japanese devs have a bad habit of sequelizing despite lost cash in a vain hope of making a series mainstream eventually. See armored core, F-zero, Darkstalkers, most megaman sub series, and a lot of others for reference. It only works once in a blue moon, ironically it happened with Fire Emblem several years after the last advanced wars. Realistically speaking, and it pains me to say this, more often then not in these scenarios, it's best for the dev to close up shop on said series and try again with something else.

Nintendo stopped caring about F-zero because people stopped caring about F-zero. We all like to pretend it was this huge thing, but by the end of it's run F-Zero climax reportedly sold less then 10K copies in it's opening week in japan. That is laughably horrible for what is arguable one of the series strongest entries. So no, they didn't stop caring, people did.

I've had this argument for years. Camelot didn't stop producing Golden Sun games because the sports games were more profitable. Because if you go into the sales data FOR those sports games, only 2, Mario Tennis Aces, and MArio Tennis 64, have had sales comparable to that for the first golden sun. The problem isn't that the series isn't profitable. The problem is that all the talent that made Camelot an excellent RPG developer like they were, left. A long time ago. See Dark Dawn for evidence. A lot of the orignal team had left and a sports game dev now had to make an RPG. We all know how that turned out.

At the end of the day, Nintendo is a business. Their primary objectives are to make money, pay employees to produce products which will make more money, and stay sustainable for as long as possible. Behind every fallen IP there is a story. More often then not it boils down to money. As sad as it is, that is the cold reality of the gaming industry. If you were a billionaire, and a group of people you didn't know asked you for millions to produce a product statistically proven multiple times to not be worth the initial investment, you'd have to be dumb to throw the millions in their direction necessary to make that product that WILL fail.

 

[XenoWarriorX]

Granted in those situations Fire Emblem was needed to breath life back into the franchise and put Intelligent Systems back on the map, but they do seriously need to let Intelligent System's other franchises come back to the spot light. Keeping Intelligent Systems on only Fire Emblem will eventually burn out the employees.

Days of Ruin bombed REALLY hard...and probably because of a lack of any ads for it.

The Issue with F-Zero is that Nintendo has no in team that could make the games back to the Golden Era of the Gamecube days.

I DIDN'T WANT GX-QUALITY FOR EACH ENTRY.

I just wanted something from this franchise. To see the characters, to see the setting again, to play with those tight controls.

But no. X bombed. Then GX....eh, didn't have the best marketing. MV was....the worst. GP's only source of adverting in the states (the 4Kids dub of the anime) was cancelled 11 episodes in. And CLimax bombed in japan for being too similar.

And every chance Nintendo got, They blew it. So the lack of anyone wanting to work on it that's not from japan is their own fault in the first place.

****ing hell, i'm getting punished for something i didn't even do. WHY IS NINTENDO RUN BY MORONS?

Granted, in Camelot's case the original Golden Sun had left and the Takahashi brothers were not confident that the team could handle an RPG at such a large scope.
Edit: what Camelot needs are more employees that could help with the RPG development process.

To be honest, Nintendo needs to have more confidence in their pre-existing franchises and actually market them.

Nintendo also needs to just let all their studios do their own thing or better yet take this approach:

1. Have a studios that is interested and could possibly breathe life into pre-existing franchises.
2. Let the studios work on their own franchises/develop new IPs
3. Give the companies all the resources they need to make the games.
4. Don't let developers like Shigeru Miyamoto butt heads with other developer leads. Seriously, Shigeru Miyamoto insisted that the Gamepad controls of Star Fox Zero be added when it only hindered the game. Hopefully, Nintendo learned this and are telling Miyamoto to keep his nose out.

But Nintendo asked for GS3. But the way they marketed it makes me think they didn't even care to bein with.

They sure no interest in their lower franchises, and yet they expect some damn profit with an attitude like that?

That list is actually spot on.

Because not a single title in the advanced wars series was selling worth investing in. Capping out around 700K for the first entry. And critical quality gradually went down between entries. A lot of japanese devs have a bad habit of sequelizing despite lost cash in a vain hope of making a series mainstream eventually. See armored core, F-zero, Darkstalkers, most megaman sub series, and a lot of others for reference. It only works once in a blue moon, ironically it happened with Fire Emblem several years after the last advanced wars. Realistically speaking, and it pains me to say this, more often then not in these scenarios, it's best for the dev to close up shop on said series and try again with something else.

Nintendo stopped caring about F-zero because people stopped caring about F-zero. We all like to pretend it was this huge thing, but by the end of it's run F-Zero climax reportedly sold less then 10K copies in it's opening week in japan. That is laughably horrible for what is arguable one of the series strongest entries. So no, they didn't stop caring, people did.

I've had this argument for years. Camelot didn't stop producing Golden Sun games because the sports games were more profitable. Because if you go into the sales data FOR those sports games, only 2, Mario Tennis Aces, and MArio Tennis 64, have had sales comparable to that for the first golden sun. The problem isn't that the series isn't profitable. The problem is that all the talent that made Camelot an excellent RPG developer like they were, left. A long time ago. See Dark Dawn for evidence. A lot of the orignal team had left and a sports game dev now had to make an RPG. We all know how that turned out.

At the end of the day, Nintendo is a business. Their primary objectives are to make money, pay employees to produce products which will make more money, and stay sustainable for as long as possible. Behind every fallen IP there is a story. More often then not it boils down to money. As sad as it is, that is the cold reality of the gaming industry. If you were a billionaire, and a group of people you didn't know asked you for millions to produce a product statistically proven multiple times to not be worth the initial investment, you'd have to be dumb.

(Climax isn't actually the best imo. It's decent, but it's similarities to F-Zero GP didn't interest the Japanese public. You're being disingenuous.)


But sure, fine. They can go ahead and be a buisness.

I'll sell my switch and not give them my money if that's how they're gonna play it. : )))))))

 

[TheSpaceKing12]

Days of Ruin bombed REALLY hard...and probably because of a lack of any ads for it.


I DIDN'T WANT GX-QUALITY FOR EACH ENTRY.

I just wanted something from this franchise. To see the characters, to see the setting again, to play with those tight controls.

But no. X bombed. Then GX....eh, didn't have the best marketing. MV was....the worst. GP's only source of adverting in the states (the 4Kids dub of the anime) was cancelled 11 episodes in. And CLimax bombed in japan for being too similar.

And every chance Nintendo got, They blew it. So the lack of anyone wanting to work on it that's not from japan is their own fault in the first place.

****ing hell, i'm getting punished for something i didn't even do. WHY IS NINTENDO RUN BY MORONS?




But Nintendo asked for GS3. But the way they marketed it makes me think they didn't even care to bein with.

They sure no interest in their lower franchises, and yet they expect some damn profit with an attitude like that?

That list is actually spot on.





(Climax isn't actually the best imo. It's decent, but it's siilarties to F-Zero GP bombed it. You're being disingenuous.)


But sure, fine. They can go ahead and be a buisness.

I'll sell my switch and not give them my money if that's the case. : )))))))

I mean you can do that but you'd be hard pressed to find professional entertainment that doesn't have business in it. Heck your food and clothing has business literally all over them. Your home? The result of a construction business.

 

[Undella2]

F-Zero Switch & Knuckles featuring a New Funky Mode and Dante from the Devil May Cry series with added Intelligent Systems Golden Sun fanservice DLC when? /s

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Above: How to ruin 5 franchises in one easy step.

 

[SmashBro99]

Sorry to say, but N3ON might be right.
Star Fox racing has been heavily rumored.
And Mario Kart 9? Yeah, they would have Mario Kart's team just continuously making mario kart games because Nintendo just does it for money. And only money.

At this point, I'm just tired of this Mario kart series. I never thought I'd ask for a popular franchise to take a break, but GDI take a ****ing break.

Edit: In fact, Take a 13 year break. See how the ****ing Mario Kart fans like it.

lol a business would rather make money by making a game people like rather than take a chance on a dead forgotten series.

Whats the problem exactly?

In 13 years people would still be playing them, no doubt.

 

[XenoWarriorX]

I mean you can do that but you'd be hard pressed to find professional entertainment that doesn't have business in it. Heck your food and clothing has business literally all over them. Your home? The result of a construction business.

Food and Shelter is part of our needs.

But video games are part of our wants.

I can choose to not support Nintendo. My love for F-Zero certainly outweighs any of their other IP's. (Sorry Smash Bros, but you never did anything for my franchise in years.)

lol a business would rather make money by making a game people like rather than take a chance on a dead forgotten series.

Whats the problem exactly?

In 13 years people would still be playing them, no doubt.

And having a series like Mario Kart be pumped out without any passion is better?

And the reason it's a dead franchise to begin with it's Nintendo's lack of advertising.

SO SIT. DOWN.