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To be fair, it would be pretty painful if a Rule 63 Isaac ended up being more popular than the actual character himself and nothing but a bunch of NSFW to go with it.
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Sunrise, Sunset - Isaac for Smash Ultimate #GoldenSunday
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Knight-Adept
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Yeah, let's not go the way of Fire Emblem...
I mean, I'm all for Smash reviving the franchise like it did for FE, but let's not lose our dignity in the process.
I mean, I'm all for Smash reviving the franchise like it did for FE, but let's not lose our dignity in the process.
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That's the thing though, the difference is that instead of Smash being the only one to revive the series, it is truly us as the fans doing all the work to revive the series! That is why we are here supporting for our boi! In the beginning, a small hand full of us helped start the push for Isaac hype to get the ball rolling while many others banded together to get this far. We aren't just using smash to revive the series, but we are also using the series itself to revive it and as the wholesome fandom that we are and that I know we can be. I really think it is safe to say that it is working! We are using smash speculation to show our love for the series, but not in an obnoxious way in most causes. The game hasn't even came out yet and hasn't even revealed Isaac yet and we still have yet to peak the height of support. We have already shown that there are so many Golden Sun fans out there hiding in the shadows and I garantee that it will not stop there. Let's not stop now!! I believe! You all should too! We are the voice of Golden Sun, we have the power to revive it and get our boi into Smash!!
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Smash does wonders for reviving series but it is because of the fans. If people weren't interested on knowing who Marth and Roy were and why we didn't know them outside of Japan, FE would have been kept as Japan Exclusive, same with other series, it is the curiosity and love that Smash sparks what helps the series and characters up for new life
P. S: don't forget to vote for Isaac https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/...834vote_using_poll_randomized_smash_ultimate/ let's make it to grand finals!
P. S: don't forget to vote for Isaac https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/...834vote_using_poll_randomized_smash_ultimate/ let's make it to grand finals!
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Alright I haven't posted here in a while, but I gotta say
1. I am unsure if there is Bowserette of Isaac, but I am sure if he's confirmed there will be (and I won't care to see it lmao)
2. I'm beginning to think Isaac won't be a base game character but rather a "Season 1 DLC" character. Which if that happens, that's great. As long as he's playable, that's great, no matter how long the DLC happens. Because once we got Isaac... WE GOT ISAAC... FOREVER! And no one and nothing can take that from us!
1. I am unsure if there is Bowserette of Isaac, but I am sure if he's confirmed there will be (and I won't care to see it lmao)
2. I'm beginning to think Isaac won't be a base game character but rather a "Season 1 DLC" character. Which if that happens, that's great. As long as he's playable, that's great, no matter how long the DLC happens. Because once we got Isaac... WE GOT ISAAC... FOREVER! And no one and nothing can take that from us!
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I'm betting base.
Clumsyzephyr
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Yeah, I'm betting on base too. No reason to bet on DLC at the moment, we still don't know the full base roster.
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Even though I agree with the positive attitude and that getting Isaac is the only important result there is still some way ahead we should focus in first. Which is the base game roster. If the road finishes without Isaac on board then we can start looking ahead to DLC
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TRENDS AND MOVES BYStoicSeraph -(Isaac wants none of that Peachette business)
~Trends and Moves~ #SuperCamelotBros #SmashBrosUltimate #GoldenSun #Waluigi #Bowsette #Peachette #Nintendo pic.twitter.com/lwO7z0b92F
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I have a feeling they may have prioritized a handful of characters and the returning roster, and then left some of the other big requests as potential choices for down the road. Sakurai has admitted to the massive project this game has been, and that bringing back everyone + new fighters has been time consuming, so I'd say they couldn't incorporate them all into the base game. Then when the DLC season comes around, they might go back to the pool of requested newcomers that didn't make it and then look at how this game's hype cycle has been and decide from there.
While I agree that it's too early to talk about DLC when we don't know the full base roster, I think it at least helps to acknowledge that DLC could be a big thing for requested characters (Though admittedly, we still don't know if we'll even get DLC). There's a solid handful of big requests still not currently in the game, so while I know they can't fulfill them all, I'd imagine we'd see a couple more of the top through base and DLC when it is all said and done. Plus, the air of negativity is going around for unique newcomers, so I think it makes sense that some fans might shift to DLC hopes when things are looking grim. This fan base certainly knows how to shift as time goes on and persevere, and part of that might be looking to the next thing with situation starts to look unfavorable.
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I think looking at the way the roster is shaping up and all the leaks/rumors with 3 to 5 clear characters continually circled and that just logistically are the front runners for the base roster (1 flat out leaked)... it's hard to envision many more if any base roster characters will be included. 3-5 characters more puts us at 77-79 characters, a likely number. Not saying we can't have more, however.
Really don't think the tides are favorable for Isaac with that. If it's favorable with any new moveset Nintendo-owned character, it may be Skull Kid.
DLC is another matter. DLC is always where Isaac looked to have a strong chance and showing.
However even there there's a lot of Nintendo-owned characters in the mix. Skull Kid again, but also Spring Man, Rex and The Chorus Kids as the front runners along with Isaac. Past that is a few other characters followed by a barren wasteland.
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Clumsyzephyr
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Logistically? Who?
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I dunno. Even among Legend of Zelda characters, polling put Skull Kid beneath both Impa and Midna. Would he really be more likely than Isaac?
Lift.
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He was probably talking a bout a psynergy that lifts the character him/herself, not an object
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Okay, so time to address something I've been pushing off for a while. Top 10 games. Most of these are RPGs.
10. Mass Effect Trilogy - Nah, not going to choose between them. The first one was a brilliant RPG. Second one wasn't as good in RPG elements, but had great characters and much refined gameplay. And the third one was overall a better version of the second, but then it ruined everything with a terrible ending.
9. Master of Orion 2 - The best 4X game of all time, in my opinion. If you enjoy games like Civilization, but want to take over a galaxy, instead of a planet, this is the game for you. Some of the most fun tech and race options I've ever seen. Fantastic leader system and other mechanics. I really wish we could get a good sequel to this game. Because Master of Orion 3 was one of the worst sequels of all time and basically killed the series.
8. Fire Emblem: Awakening - This game actually surpassed Blazing Blade for me, just because of how many good quality of life features it had. It's not perfect, not by a long shot. It's map design is sub par and its characters don't live up to the cast of Blazing Blade in my opinion. But I'd rather go back and play Awakening again because it just plays so well. As soon as we get an Echoes of Elibe remake that uses the modern engine and conveniences to remake Blazing Blade, though? This game is off the list.
7. Final Fantasy Tactics Advance - This game is great. I can, and have, written essays for fun just because of how good this game is. There's a ton of content, fantastic characters, a great plot, actually well developed morality conflicts, a brilliant job system, a lovely soundtrack, and great tactical gameplay. Great game, and Ivalice is a brilliant world.
6. Shining Force 2 - While the original's darker tone appeals to some, the sprite work and mechanical improvements from the sequel mean that I wind up going back to SF2 far more often than I do the original. If you consider Golden Sun a fusion of Final Fantasy style combat and exploration with Legend of Zelda puzzles, Shining Force is a combination of Fire Emblem style combat with Final Fantasy style exploration and dialogue. And Shining Force vastly outstrips Fire Emblem in quality because of it, in my opinion (and I am a huge Fire Emblem fan, I'm not knocking FE here). I just wish Camelot and Intelligent Systems could team up to make a new game in the series.
5. Bravely Default - This game is brilliant. How the heck Square managed to make an RPG this brilliant while their corporate suits seem to hate traditional JRPGs and turn based combat as much as they do is beyond me. It has an amazing soundtrack, brilliant mechanics, great characters, a good story, and the single greatest moment of gameplay and story integration I've ever seen in a game. Unfortunately, I basically can't discuss this game at all, because literally everything is a spoiler. The NAME of the game itself is TWO DIFFERENT SPOILERS.
4. Persona 3 - This game has some pacing issues, the dungeon design is a little lackluster, and Strega (while great characters) could maybe fit better. Literally everything else about it is brilliant. It's a fantastic work of literature, exploring a psychological concept in one of the best and most thorough ways I've ever seen. It manages to tie every aspect of the game in to its central theme. Music, characters, plot, sidequests. Everything reflects a different aspect of the core concept, and it just works amazingly. I wish we had a Golden version of this game. If they remade it with the sort of job they did on Persona 5, this game could challenge my number one. Memento Mori.
3. Rune Factory 3 - When developing Rune Factory for the anniversary of Harvest Moon, series producer Yashimoto Hirofumi said: “I want to create a small but rich microcosm in the DS, where every single person’s lives shine like jewels in a treasure box.” Rune Factory 3 is the game where I feel this goal was achieved. Every day, every character has new lines, and their own schedules. When they meet their friends, their dialogue changes to have interactions. A huge variety of quests and content. This is a game that anyone who likes Harvest Moon or Stardew Valley NEEDS to play. And demand MARVELOUS make more.
2. Golden Sun + Golden Sun: The Lost Age - I consider these two as one game. I had a link cable and two GBAs when I played it, and I got them both together (about the time The Lost Age came out). So it was one big experience for me. I played this game so much, it actually dragged down my academics (though I did learn a lot from the experience). Weyard is an amazing world, and one that I can't wait to go back to.
1. Chrono Trigger - Simply the best game ever created. Hands down, bar none. Fantastic mechanics, great story, amazing characters, gorgeous art, brilliant soundtrack... This game is just wonderful.
10. Mass Effect Trilogy - Nah, not going to choose between them. The first one was a brilliant RPG. Second one wasn't as good in RPG elements, but had great characters and much refined gameplay. And the third one was overall a better version of the second, but then it ruined everything with a terrible ending.
9. Master of Orion 2 - The best 4X game of all time, in my opinion. If you enjoy games like Civilization, but want to take over a galaxy, instead of a planet, this is the game for you. Some of the most fun tech and race options I've ever seen. Fantastic leader system and other mechanics. I really wish we could get a good sequel to this game. Because Master of Orion 3 was one of the worst sequels of all time and basically killed the series.
8. Fire Emblem: Awakening - This game actually surpassed Blazing Blade for me, just because of how many good quality of life features it had. It's not perfect, not by a long shot. It's map design is sub par and its characters don't live up to the cast of Blazing Blade in my opinion. But I'd rather go back and play Awakening again because it just plays so well. As soon as we get an Echoes of Elibe remake that uses the modern engine and conveniences to remake Blazing Blade, though? This game is off the list.
7. Final Fantasy Tactics Advance - This game is great. I can, and have, written essays for fun just because of how good this game is. There's a ton of content, fantastic characters, a great plot, actually well developed morality conflicts, a brilliant job system, a lovely soundtrack, and great tactical gameplay. Great game, and Ivalice is a brilliant world.
6. Shining Force 2 - While the original's darker tone appeals to some, the sprite work and mechanical improvements from the sequel mean that I wind up going back to SF2 far more often than I do the original. If you consider Golden Sun a fusion of Final Fantasy style combat and exploration with Legend of Zelda puzzles, Shining Force is a combination of Fire Emblem style combat with Final Fantasy style exploration and dialogue. And Shining Force vastly outstrips Fire Emblem in quality because of it, in my opinion (and I am a huge Fire Emblem fan, I'm not knocking FE here). I just wish Camelot and Intelligent Systems could team up to make a new game in the series.
5. Bravely Default - This game is brilliant. How the heck Square managed to make an RPG this brilliant while their corporate suits seem to hate traditional JRPGs and turn based combat as much as they do is beyond me. It has an amazing soundtrack, brilliant mechanics, great characters, a good story, and the single greatest moment of gameplay and story integration I've ever seen in a game. Unfortunately, I basically can't discuss this game at all, because literally everything is a spoiler. The NAME of the game itself is TWO DIFFERENT SPOILERS.
4. Persona 3 - This game has some pacing issues, the dungeon design is a little lackluster, and Strega (while great characters) could maybe fit better. Literally everything else about it is brilliant. It's a fantastic work of literature, exploring a psychological concept in one of the best and most thorough ways I've ever seen. It manages to tie every aspect of the game in to its central theme. Music, characters, plot, sidequests. Everything reflects a different aspect of the core concept, and it just works amazingly. I wish we had a Golden version of this game. If they remade it with the sort of job they did on Persona 5, this game could challenge my number one. Memento Mori.
3. Rune Factory 3 - When developing Rune Factory for the anniversary of Harvest Moon, series producer Yashimoto Hirofumi said: “I want to create a small but rich microcosm in the DS, where every single person’s lives shine like jewels in a treasure box.” Rune Factory 3 is the game where I feel this goal was achieved. Every day, every character has new lines, and their own schedules. When they meet their friends, their dialogue changes to have interactions. A huge variety of quests and content. This is a game that anyone who likes Harvest Moon or Stardew Valley NEEDS to play. And demand MARVELOUS make more.
2. Golden Sun + Golden Sun: The Lost Age - I consider these two as one game. I had a link cable and two GBAs when I played it, and I got them both together (about the time The Lost Age came out). So it was one big experience for me. I played this game so much, it actually dragged down my academics (though I did learn a lot from the experience). Weyard is an amazing world, and one that I can't wait to go back to.
1. Chrono Trigger - Simply the best game ever created. Hands down, bar none. Fantastic mechanics, great story, amazing characters, gorgeous art, brilliant soundtrack... This game is just wonderful.
I've thought about using Lift as a recovery move, before. Just have Isaac stand on a boulder as it's Lifted up.
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To be honest? So you should. XD
Calling The Lost Age "Golden Sun 2" is like calling Sonic & Knuckles "Sonic 4".
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Q-Long
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Everyone is talking about Isaacsette, but I want some Doom Dragonsette or Wisesette One
Awakening had like barely any chokepoints, Fates brought them back.
Shadows of Valentia cut down on the waifu stuff. The latest game has this modern style that is both modern and stays true to the character design philisophy the pre-Awakening games had.
Have you played Live a Live? Its not as good, but is a pretty fun and unique precusor to Chrono Trigger
Its dignity is back! If Metroid can recover, so can FE!
Awakening had like barely any chokepoints, Fates brought them back.
Shadows of Valentia cut down on the waifu stuff. The latest game has this modern style that is both modern and stays true to the character design philisophy the pre-Awakening games had.
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1. Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest
2. Donkey Kong Country
3. Super Smash Bros. For 3DS / Wii U
4. Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze
5. Golden Sun & The Lost Age (since it counts as one game after all now)
6. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
7. Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance
8. EarthBound
9. Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn
10. A few Zelda titles who I rank similary : Ocarina of Time, Wind Waker and Skyward Sword.
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I feel so validated right now.
Q-Long
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Yeah Isaac doesn't seem like a DLC character. I could be wrong.
But the DLC characters last time were vets (mewtwo, lucas, roy), legends (ryu and cloud), or for new releases (bayo and corrin). Of course patterns are always broken in the world of Smash speculation. So last time they had 7 DLC characters, maybe there will be more this time, who knows. What's notable is 3rd parties got 3 out of 4 of the unique DLC movesets.
But at least if he isn't in base, he has plenty of spots he could grab. Though that could be tough too. He has to compete against:
*More Mario and Pokemon (Gen 8 is on the horizon)
*More Fire Emblem (Heroes makes bank and FE16 is on the way)
*Though most of the 3rd party "legends" are in, you still have popular JP series like Phoenix Wright, Monster Hunter, Dragon Quest, and more.
*Fan favorites like Geno, Bandana Dee, Skull Kid, Banjo, etc.
*New Nintendo releases like Dragalia Lost, Town, Daemon X Machina, etc. (I would mention the new Metroid, but I doubt the series would get more)
Of course we could get an announcement of new GS in the future with that copyright renewal.
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If we go from what we know, last DLC consisted of:
- THE most popular veteran that was planned before.
- The most popular remaining Melee and Brawl veterans, respectively.
- A really big guest fighter with a genre that was not yet in Smash (I don't think we know much about Ryu's inclusion)
- A guest character that had most votes from a popular franchise in the ballot (that's also not a super concrete thing)
- Among the characters that can made into a DLC fighter, one that got most votes (at least at the start of the ballot)
- A character whose game is released but not worldwide yet. Also the only one chosen by development team and not Sakurai.
We can see a Cloud/Ryu and maybe Corrin but anything else will be quiet different from last time.
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Until we know the whole roster, I rather focus on base. Is it nice to get a headstart? Sure. Yet most of the curent hype from the community is about who are the remaining newcomers for base, not who is going to be potential DLC.
And even when the game comes out, there will be that obvious honeymoon phase where everyone is playing it and unlocking and enjoying the characters who are there than focusing on who's not.
It's also hard to imagine if Isaac's ballot results don't warrant enough to make him playable then surely his assist is going to return so there may not be much of a DLC campaign if he's not base, unless he's announced being in the works. Isaac being completely absent from the game like in 4 just makes no sense.
And even when the game comes out, there will be that obvious honeymoon phase where everyone is playing it and unlocking and enjoying the characters who are there than focusing on who's not.
It's also hard to imagine if Isaac's ballot results don't warrant enough to make him playable then surely his assist is going to return so there may not be much of a DLC campaign if he's not base, unless he's announced being in the works. Isaac being completely absent from the game like in 4 just makes no sense.
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Q-Long
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Yeah, with no vets this time, spots will be freed up.If we go from what we know, last DLC consisted of:
We can see a Cloud/Ryu and maybe Corrin but anything else will be quiet different from last time.
Also I had no idea Bayo had the most votes. I thought she was in a similar spot to Corrin. I was also expecting Ryu to happen, he's pretty much the king of cross overs lol. I'm guessing they added him because of how important he is and because of that.
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The official statement was that she was the highest voted 'realizable' DLC character. There is in-game data suggests that she was decided pretty early so she either got a lot of votes when the ballot started or she was just fairly popular but also had circumstances that made her inclusion easier than others (her body shape, Platinum Games's cooperation etc).
Corrin was the only character who got in to help the promotion of a recent game, though Greninja was also in a similar situation.
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It's funny to me how odd Bayonetta origin of inclusion is. It's either she had a good amount of votes, or was chosen as one of the characters from the beginning due to Bayonetta 2's exclusivity, and her body shape being easy to design around ZSS.
It could either way, or it could be a combination of both.
But I have a hard time believing that Bayonetta won the ballot as a whole, despite liking the character a whole lot.
Q-Long
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Oh yeah I remember reading that. I guess that's where the controversy comes from (aside from her being the first third party that wasn't gaming legend status yet, she's more of an icon). I love her games though.
I wonder what realizable means in this context. All of the newcomers this time around probably did strong on the poll as well. Inkling comes to mind first.
In the case of King K Rool, Isaac, Geno, and the others, I think those were fanbases that would normally vote for each others characters, so their votes were less concentrated than Bayonetta's if that makes sense... I voted for Andy instead of Isaac for example, but now that I know my lesson, my support is towards Isaac. Another example would be how Pokemon or Mario characters probably received tons of votes, but those fanbases couldn't decide on one singular character to support.
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There's no way she got the most votes but it's not that hard believing the ones who got more votes were out of quetion due to being hard to make/has licensing issues/veteran/Goku.
Inklings were probably voted real high in the ballot but there's no way they could add the ink mechanic with just patches. K.Rool needs a completely unique skeleton, which no DLC newcomer had. Geno might have licensing issues. Isaac... no idea. Maybe he wasn't voted as highly as we think? Or maybe his moveset needed too much extra modelling.
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I suppose Isaac would be hard to make (even when building off the base of one of the sword users.)
And snake because of licensing issues.
But how was Wolf a difficult character to make? He was pretty much a clone from the beginning. How was he not DLC for smash 4?
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Either:
A. Sakurai doesn't wanted to fill the DLC with veterans, especially since Ultimate was in plans.
B. He's harder to make than Roy and Lucas but not as popular as those two.
Pwnapplez
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Hmm, that website going back to 2010 is interesting.
Maybe Nintendo wants to make sure we don't find out about website updates but ended up making more noise
Maybe Nintendo wants to make sure we don't find out about website updates but ended up making more noise
SmashBro99
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As much as I want Isaac in base its just not gonna happen.
We probably have
Incineroar, Ken, Shadow, Steve and Geno (as first DLC soon) left to be revealed.
And as someone said, it will be harder for him to get in as DLC, since this is where they'll bombard us with Xenoblade, BWD, Dixie, and more Fire Emblem ofc.
Isaac is just as or more requested than those, but Sakurai is very stubborn and bias.
He's not a huge fan of Zelda, which is why we have 3 different Links with pretty much the same moveset, while all 3 come from games where they could have unique specials at the very least. And don't get me started on Ganondorf, hes still a semi clone and he should have been revamped in Brawl.
Meanwhile he tweaks the moveset of his Kirby and Kid Icarus characters.
And we're gonna get Steve because he likes Minecraft, and probably ignore that Banjo & Kazooie are actually a requested character.
He also likes Fire Emblem, and look at the ****ty representation of that.
I'm grateful for all that he has done, but man I really hope the next title is a reboot and he steps down.
We probably have
Incineroar, Ken, Shadow, Steve and Geno (as first DLC soon) left to be revealed.
And as someone said, it will be harder for him to get in as DLC, since this is where they'll bombard us with Xenoblade, BWD, Dixie, and more Fire Emblem ofc.
Isaac is just as or more requested than those, but Sakurai is very stubborn and bias.
He's not a huge fan of Zelda, which is why we have 3 different Links with pretty much the same moveset, while all 3 come from games where they could have unique specials at the very least. And don't get me started on Ganondorf, hes still a semi clone and he should have been revamped in Brawl.
Meanwhile he tweaks the moveset of his Kirby and Kid Icarus characters.
And we're gonna get Steve because he likes Minecraft, and probably ignore that Banjo & Kazooie are actually a requested character.
He also likes Fire Emblem, and look at the ****ty representation of that.
I'm grateful for all that he has done, but man I really hope the next title is a reboot and he steps down.
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To each their own, but I don't see how he's more favorable at this point. Skull Kid has two things going for him, both of which Isaac rivals:
- His missing assist trophy- Isaac also has yet to be seen.
- The furniture hint- it's so much of a stretch and Sakurai's "Golden Sun angle" tweet is way closer to a hint than some chair colors.
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I still have hopes for Isaac in base, but if he shouldn't make it I'm more than prepared to become louder than Ridley fans about him for dlc.
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Well, fortunately a lot of us have hope that the leaker is wrong, so we're not going to stop until we're proven otherwise. A couple weeks ago, people were swearing by the Box Theory like it was a religion, only to now be throwing themselves behind Steve because it's "flavour of the week."
That said, I don't disagree with DLC hopes being weaker- with behemoths like Fire Emblem and Xenoblade Chronicles having recent releases, as well as the fact that we got a bunch of 3rd party fighters last time, Isaac is going to have a bigger hurdle to overcome. I won't give up hope quite yet, but it is a bit of an issue.
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N3ON was right, you guys are way too capricious.
You go from Isaac being 100% in to Isaac being 100% out at the drop of a hat. Stick to your guns and stop panicking every time a new scrap of information is hinted at. 90% of what you are terrified about has no basis in fact.
Point of reference: Somebody show me where anything either in Smash or given by somebody related to the project has even hinted at Incineroar. And yet, everybody acts like they are a lock. Why?
You go from Isaac being 100% in to Isaac being 100% out at the drop of a hat. Stick to your guns and stop panicking every time a new scrap of information is hinted at. 90% of what you are terrified about has no basis in fact.
Point of reference: Somebody show me where anything either in Smash or given by somebody related to the project has even hinted at Incineroar. And yet, everybody acts like they are a lock. Why?
SmashBro99
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On the plus side no one has said "No Isaac" yet, but you're kinda ignorant if you think that leakers who call stuff way before things are revealed (and not just stuff for Smash) who are right about everything we've seen are going to be wrong in the end for some reason, that's called denial, trust me, Waluigi supporter.
That said the best thing for me would be to see an official reveal of Isaac or even someone else that is not on the credible leakers list as I'm not really interested in anything that's likely from those sources.
I've never wanted to be wrong so bad lol
That said the best thing for me would be to see an official reveal of Isaac or even someone else that is not on the credible leakers list as I'm not really interested in anything that's likely from those sources.
I've never wanted to be wrong so bad lol
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Pyzlnar
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Nah man, it's just some people are not as confident as others, so a bit of leaks here and there can tilt the boat one way or the other.
Besides you have to remember that GS in general has been left to die for the longest time, so you can't really blame people for feeling pessimistic about Isaac chances.
I'm still holding my faith on Sakurai's tweet and the next Direct.