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Sunrise, Sunset - Isaac for Smash Ultimate #GoldenSunday

Tetiro

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Well that stung but nothing we can't brush off.

I think the part that is getting us is that Isabelle made more sense as an Echo then a Newcomer. But I also see there being no other way of announcing her then with the Animal Crossing on Switch. It makes the perfect sense and my statistics did say that 2019 for Animal Crossing was possible. I just didn't make the connection sooner. Had I done maybe I would have had my hype levels lower.

It was actually a pretty good Direct to be fair. There were many announcements unspoilt and starting with Luigi's Mansion 3 was amazing. I think right now we are all upset that our boy Isaac didn't get in. But let us not lose hope!

We still have October and November remaining. We still have our chance! And what tonight has proven is that all Worldwide Directs will get a new Smash character. That gives us new hope
 

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Honestly I'm not that surprised.

I think characters like Isaac, Geno, and Skull Kid, if any are in, would most likely debut in a Smash Direct because their fanbases are more (not entirely obviously) driven by Smash.

The only shot any of them had here I think is if some game was being announced alongside.
 

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Came by to let you all know to hope you all luck next time. I'm very sure of it Isaac will be in the game. Do not give up guys. ;)
 

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Bro don't let the salt consume you I can totally agree tho K-rool hype Simon hype Ridley hype Isabelle......
 

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Reminder to everyone that today neither Isaac nor Skull kid nor Geno have their chances reduced at all. The only thing that happened today is that we know which of the two leakers we can finally believe and who we dont. Verg wins today once more, regardless of how you feel about him. Let's hope next reveal is our boi's time :) peace
 

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Man, this is not what I expected my reactions to look like in the end. Luigi's Mansion got the highest peak and the end was incredibly quiet. What a shame.
I didn't really react to anything. (it probably picked up on me coughing a few times :p)

but then I don't tend to react that much when watching directs anyway, it probably would have taken something really big to get a reaction out of me.
 
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Guys, it's okay to be disappointed.

Just remember, Isabelle is another AT that became a fighter.
This bodes well for Isaac since he was not shown off yet.

I am baking DLC for Isaac.

Don't make this thread into a hell storm
 

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Ok, so first of all I’m really happy for Isabelle and her fans, she totally deserved to make it in. Isaac still totally has a chance too (although I hope he’s the 70th fighter and doesn’t have to live with forever being number 69)

I’m admittedly slightly disappointed because of how the stars seemed to be aligning today, and I feel like Isabelle was so obvious she could’ve gone along with another character. I feel like the trailer would’ve made a better opener for the direct instead of a closer, and the whole thing was a bit “yeah, we know you’re in smash just get on with it”. And I legit thought they were gonna announce Tom Nook as an echo.

I still have faith in Isaac, and even if he doesn’t make the base game there’s always DLC.
 

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We didn't get Isaac but I think we are still in the right track. It does make a lot of sense that they'd reveal someone like Isabelle for a general direct to hype up people that have been looking forward to more animal crossing for a long time now.

If you think about it, it'd be cooler if we got a longer GS segment on a smash direct, than having a random reveal on a boring direct that would give Isaac very little impact to a big public that's not even as invested in golden sun. If anything, the theory about the chairs and Sakurai's office holds less water now but we can also look at the positives:

- Isaac didn't get AT'd
- The Rathalos picture theory still holds water
- The re-trademark from earlier could still mean something

There's still chance! Maybe we just have to wait for a little longer!
 

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Havent played them myself...
The only thing about the direct that really excited me was now people with a Switch can play the three best Final Fantasy games, VII, IX, and X.

Seriously you guys, do yourselves a favor and play 'em.
 

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In any case, look on the bright side. It just means we have time to get to page 500 before the next Direct! It's not just Isaac fans who missed out today - Every group except for Isabelle is probably feeling the exact same way. It might be best if we all take a step back and come back later once we've walked off Isabelle reveal.
 

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The dream is dead. I guess.

Our votes meant nothing.
Oh come on. Don’t be a wet noodle. There’s still plenty of time before the game comes out to have Isaac revealed. And, like I said, DLC is his next best shot. We only lose if we give up.

If you’re really this easy to give up, I’ll admit I’d be more disappointed in you than Isaac not being in Smash.
 

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So here's the thing, I'm super excited for Luigi's mansion 3 and the new animal crossing. It is great that Isabelle isn't just an Echo I wouldn't have liked that and she's really cute.

BUT

Aside from that all the in between ranged from we already know that, to boring, to lame ...
New animal crossing coming and that's awsome but no footage ?
So ... yea I'm pretty disappointed especially after all this waiting for the direct and how better the previous ones were imo.

And also no ****ing Isaac ...
 

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Basically every Isaac / Geno / Skull kid fans died at this moment.
I wasn't really expecting Isaac today. I expected a character that the average nintendo fan would know. Isabelle fits that criteria. I still feel Isaac is best saved for a smash direct.
 

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In any case, look on the bright side. It just means we have time to get to page 500 before the next Direct! It's not just Isaac fans who missed out today - Every group except for Isabelle is probably feeling the exact same way. It might be best if we all take a step back and come back later once we've walked off Isabelle reveal.
the support must carry on, yes
 

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Meh.

You guys might think the direct was Great. But with the online being still ****, I'll guess I'll probably sell off Splatoon 2.

Shame. I thought it would be a mainstay in my collection.
 

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hey y'all here's a theory though, what if Isaac was originally meant to be part of this trailer but they DID in fact cut his video out and swapped it with a quick reveal of isabelle and the AC announcement? sure the length of the direct was the same, but you definitely could tell SOME editing happened, so who's to say they didn't edit out Isaac's full reveal? and the reason being that they probably felt it was still too soon after the quake and his trailer possibly having his powers cause a quake or something? For all we know sakurai and his team might be scrambling to create a completely new trailer for him that they feel won't so easily remind folks of the disaster that just happened.
that would mess with the number thing they got going
 

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I'm happy for Isabelle fans that she got in. I mean, I expected her anyway. I think she's a semi-clone. A Wolf or Roy in that regard. He attacks looked like they had similar effects to Villager, including balloons for a recovery, dropping something, and planting something. A lot of similar things, but way different effects.


Her trailer was the most boring trailer in existence and I think should've been saved for later, but eh, whatever.


Also, the blog post on the website is 134 for her trailer. Given it was just one trailer, I still think we're missing 137. There wasn't any other big reveals here like an Echo, AT or anything, either, so the other skipped/rescheduled posts don't make a lot of sense, but I'm not jumping to any inclusions on them.


Also... I'm starting to think Dixie and Bandana Waddle Dee could get similar treatement, assuming I'm right about Isabelle being a semi-clone. Semi-clones may not be dead.


Otherwise I'm sorry I wasted everybody's time.
 
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HONESTLY THE HYPEST PART WAS FF7! because i was like "how come ff7 isnt on nintendo, you'd think hat would've happened by now"


and then immediately after i said that, the FF7 intro happened and i screamed
 
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hey y'all here's a theory though, what if Isaac was originally meant to be part of this trailer but they DID in fact cut his video out and swapped it with a quick reveal of isabelle and the AC announcement? sure the length of the direct was the same, but you definitely could tell SOME editing happened, so who's to say they didn't edit out Isaac's full reveal? and the reason being that they probably felt it was still too soon after the quake and his trailer possibly having his powers cause a quake or something? For all we know sakurai and his team might be scrambling to create a completely new trailer for him that they feel won't so easily remind folks of the disaster that just happened.
Laura Kate Dale and Ryan Brown, along with the typical leakers are all saying the game in question that got the direct delayed was the game Cities: Skyline. It's a sandbox game where cities can get destroyed and stuff. Would have been insensitive after the incident in Hokkaido.
 

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Oh come on. Don’t be a wet noodle. There’s still plenty of time before the game comes out to have Isaac revealed. And, like I said, DLC is his next best shot. We only lose if we give up.

If you’re really this easy to give up, I’ll admit I’d be more disappointed in you than Isaac not being in Smash.
Hahaha! You said wet noodle.
 

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I’m actually not too upset with Isabelle, although for a second there I really did think this was Isaac’s time. I’m more disappointed with how the reveal was handled. The reveal wasn’t hype at all, in fact it was kind of a drag actually. After the three super hype reveal trailers we’ve gotten, it’s a bit of a letdown. Also, I don’t really think Isabelle makes sense as a unique, given that she could just as easily be an echo. Also, the fact that we had to wait an extra week, even though it wasn’t Nintendo’s fault and was for a very good reason, made some of us expecting more than we got. Happy for the Isabelle fans though, and this doesn’t really change Isaac’s chances. Stay hyped, guys!
 

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I was hoping for Isaac but didn't expect him, was most disappointed that the switch games they announced were pretty lame and no virtual console. I feel like ff7 is just the old skyrim lol
 

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The dream is dead. I guess.

Our votes meant nothing.
Isabelle was literally the biggest lock after the Inklings. If getting an Inkling-tier obvious pick is a dream killer, you're overreacting.
 

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I think this is still good if I’m being honest. Isabelle’s been a major rising Nintendo character, and a really big name for potential Smash characters. She probably even did really well in the ballot. I feel like she’s complete justified as a unique character.

I don’t think this effects Isaac all that much. I’m still rather optimistic all things considered.
 

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You guys might think the direct was Great. But with the online being still ****, I'll guess I'll probably sell off Splatoon 2.
I highly doubt that anybody thinks this direct was great, while it had some good moments, there wasn't that much excitement. At least nintendo and square enix are getting along better, i guess thats a good sign for geno supporters.
 

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As an Isabelle fan I’m incredibly happy about her inclusion, as a unique newcomer to boot. But I was definitely expecting more Smash, especially after such a lackluster Direct.

hey y'all here's a theory though, what if Isaac was originally meant to be part of this trailer but they DID in fact cut his video out and swapped it with a quick reveal of isabelle and the AC announcement? sure the length of the direct was the same, but you definitely could tell SOME editing happened, so who's to say they didn't edit out Isaac's full reveal? and the reason being that they probably felt it was still too soon after the quake and his trailer possibly having his powers cause a quake or something? For all we know sakurai and his team might be scrambling to create a completely new trailer for him that they feel won't so easily remind folks of the disaster that just happened.
You know, I can’t shake the feeling that you’re right.
 

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Laura Kate Dale and Ryan Brown, along with the typical leakers are all saying the game in question that got the direct delayed was the game Cities: Skyline. It's a sandbox game where cities can get destroyed and stuff. Would have been insensitive after the incident in Hokkaido.
That's BS. They're just trying to retain some credibility because they don't actually know anything.
 

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Isabelle was literally the biggest lock after the Inklings. If getting an Inkling-tier obvious pick is a dream killer, you're overreacting.
I felt like Isabelle was most likely happening, yeah. I figured she'd be an Echo, but this really doesn't change much in my eyes. I just felt like the trailer was a letdown at the end of this Direct.



I highly doubt that anybody thinks this direct was great, while it had some good moments, there wasn't that much excitement. At least nintendo and square enix are getting along better, i guess thats a good sign for geno supporters.
I loved the Direct until the end. There was a lot of great stuff in it (though I understand people would definitely be peeved about the online portion), it was just the trailer that was boring. Then they promptly announced Animal Crossing Switch finally, another really great reveal.
 

Jupiter Ivan

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In any case, look on the bright side. It just means we have time to get to page 500 before the next Direct! It's not just Isaac fans who missed out today - Every group except for Isabelle is probably feeling the exact same way. It might be best if we all take a step back and come back later once we've walked off Isabelle reveal.
Lol 500 pages... oh Billyboy... try 6-700. I mean in a month we’ve gotten over 300 pages (I joined shortly after K Rools announcement and the pages were in between 70-80).
 
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Guys. Guys. We can finally recreate the comic of Ridley blowing up Isabelle with his Final Smash.
 

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...Well that was something. :ultisabelle: will probably be a working emote here instead of :ultisaac: like we wanted it to be.

Personally she's an okay addition. I'm happy for her fans and it's great we finally got news of an Animal Crossing game coming to the Switch. (And I'm actually glad that they gave her a fishing rod. Back when I thought of an Animal Crossing character if they were in Smash Bros, I always imagined them using a fishing rod for something like a tether or grab)

Anyways, the Direct had some highlights but some stuff was a bit weaker in some sections compared to other parts. As for our Golden Boy's finest hour, we'll just have to wait and see if it'll come later.
 

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I was only expecting Isaac in a Nintendo direct if there was a Golden Sun Remastered, we knew Isabelle would be in the game and she appeals to a way more casual audience.

Isaac got tease, is not an AT and GS got trademark again.

I'm still 99% expecting Isaac in the next Smash Direct.
 

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Isabelle was literally the biggest lock after the Inklings. If getting an Inkling-tier obvious pick is a dream killer, you're overreacting.
Then how about her trailer being dullest reveal trailer in the series. That certainly didn't endear me to the character.
 

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It should be noted that the direct (and most all directs) conform to the casual market and Isabelle joining is for better or worse good advertising for Nintendo Online and is a favorite of the casual gaming audience. Issac just doesn't bring in this base line party audience and is more fitting for a solo or Smash Direct reveal.
 
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