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Sunrise, Sunset - Isaac for Smash Ultimate #GoldenSunday

Blue7113

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If we have 4 uniques left:
Geno
Isaac
Banjo and Kazooie
Bandana Waddle Dee
If we have 6:
+Skull Kid
+ Inceneroar
 

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I too have supported Isaac since the pre-Brawl days and because of that if Isaac is in I really hope that he doesn't get leaked before his reveal. I know many leakers have put Isaac in their leaks, but none of them are really concrete. I want to experience the feeling of watching a reveal without being certain. Remember the Megaman reveal? That was so hype and I had no attachments to Megaman. If Isaac is in, it ain't worth knowing a couple of months earlier. I guarantee the feeling will be different, the payoff so much more sweet.
 

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I too have supported Isaac since the pre-Brawl days and because of that if Isaac is in I really hope that he doesn't get leaked before his reveal. I know many leakers have put Isaac in their leaks, but none of them are really concrete. I want to experience the feeling of watching a reveal without being certain. Remember the Megaman reveal? That was so hype and I had no attachments to Megaman. If Isaac is in, it ain't worth knowing a couple of months earlier. I guarantee the feeling will be different, the payoff so much more sweet.
At this point it will be impossible to tell which leak is real and which one isn't. I think you'll be fine from here on out
 

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At this point it will be impossible to tell which leak is real and which one isn't. I think you'll be fine from here on out
i would even say that no leak is real but i hope that any leak with Isaac is true
 

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Do you think we'll get new character reveal each month till release ? If we suppose their would be 1 or 2 newcomers (not counting echoes here) per month, total would range between 3 and 6. Sounds like a very plausible schedule. Let's hope Sakurai wouldn't tease Isaac so soon if it's gonna be a late reveal.
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This was from 4chan
The average of "fighters of the day" is 3 for week.
26 weeks x 3 = 78
There are 67 fighters + 6 echoes - 4 (pokemon trainer and Miis count as 3 but share same day) = 69 characters.
78 - 69 = 9 more characters

Sure, but if say Soren got revealed I think the cat would be outta the bag.
Yeah, if they show off Soren we then would have an idea of were the leaks would be.

If we have 4 uniques left:
Geno
Isaac
Banjo and Kazooie
Bandana Waddle Dee
If we have 6:
+Skull Kid
+ Inceneroar
I feel like Inceneroar would take over Bandana Dee. If the Pokemon Company wants to pressure Sakurai.

I feel like Banjo is also in a weird spot.

With Loz now
I feel like he is trolling
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QcSlayer

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Ether he is trolling or loz18 is like: you'll all see! Who's right now?

Dunno, sometimes when people contredicts you and you know something but you can't prove it you may go.... like that...
Just wait, we will know soon enough.
 

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Yeah I think Loz is just doing predictions now. The only info he had was from E3 and he's gotten less right over time.
 

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Hmm I never thought of it like that. After all when you think about it everything else Square have produced buckets off. We got Cloud, a kick-*** stage brimming with summons, a Geno costume, Chocobo costumes and Cloud has returned as well.

If Square were being so tight they wouldn't have allowed Cloud back in but sure enough he is. I think the composer being stingy might be the reason for the lack of tracks. Also notice how neither of them have been remixed in any way?
Since Nobou and Square Enix are not collaborating, and he's one of the most famous video game musicians of all time, yes. Paying for music relating to Final fantasy that is supposed to be in a smash Bros game is gonna be PRETTY high.
 

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If we have 4 uniques left:
Geno
Isaac
Banjo and Kazooie
Bandana Waddle Dee
If we have 6:
+Skull Kid
+ Inceneroar
That seems reasonable.

The only thing I would add is maybe the Chorus Kids, just because they were planned for the previous games. Though maybe a Rhythm Heaven character didn't do well enough on the ballot and the idea got scrapped. Who knows?
 

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That seems reasonable.

The only thing I would add is maybe the Chorus Kids, just because they were planned for the previous games. Though maybe a Rhythm Heaven character didn't do well enough on the ballot and the idea got scrapped. Who knows?
If Rhymn Heaven was an idea at some point, it was beated out by Custom robo, and Wonderful 101.
 
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That seems reasonable.

The only thing I would add is maybe the Chorus Kids, just because they were planned for the previous games. Though maybe a Rhythm Heaven character didn't do well enough on the ballot and the idea got scrapped. Who knows?
I would have say that a Rhythm Heaven character was a lock, but since this Smash Bros is all about fan service, i think fan favorites like Isaac, Skull Kid, Geno, Bandana Dee are safer bets

But i can imagine Marshal or Tap Trial Girl as DLC
 
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Rhythm heaven is popular in japan.

We got 2 highly requested characters yes and I hope Isaac will follow but honestly I hope we'll have some surprises, or else it will just be a fan's roster.
 

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That seems reasonable.

The only thing I would add is maybe the Chorus Kids, just because they were planned for the previous games. Though maybe a Rhythm Heaven character didn't do well enough on the ballot and the idea got scrapped. Who knows?
Yeah I agree but 8 or 10 total newcomers seems about right to me
 

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View attachment 158979

This was from 4chan
The average of "fighters of the day" is 3 for week.
26 weeks x 3 = 78
There are 67 fighters + 6 echoes - 4 (pokemon trainer and Miis count as 3 but share same day) = 69 characters.
78 - 69 = 9 more characters


Yeah, if they show off Soren we then would have an idea of were the leaks would be.



I feel like Inceneroar would take over Bandana Dee. If the Pokemon Company wants to pressure Sakurai.

I feel like Banjo is also in a weird spot.

With Loz now
I feel like he is trolling
View attachment 158980
Yeah he lost 100% my trust now, just the reply I got from him by telling him that attitude of lack of seriousness when it comes to protecting his credibility… This guy is abolute full of **** now to me.
 

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Rhythm heaven is popular in japan.

We got 2 highly requested characters yes and I hope Isaac will follow but honestly I hope we'll have some surprises, or else it will just be a fan's roster.
I wouldn't be complaining if it was "just" a fan's roster. That would be an amazing roster....and frankly I'd like to see people from the Smash community getting a character they want instead of getting "Labo Man" or something like that.

Though if Sakurai wants to surprise us with adding Chibi Robo or Phoenix Wright to the roster, I won't complain. :p

That said I think if we do get a surprise, it'll probably still be a character from the ballot....just maybe one that didn't perform as well. (like maybe a Custom Robo character)
 

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Yeah he lost 100% my trust now, just the reply I got from him by telling him that attitude of lack of seriousness when it comes to protecting his credibility… This guy is abolute full of **** now to me.
I mean, i knew he was full of **** from the start.

What "leaker" would go on and on by telling everyone every single update he gets, but also closing his account for no reason???

He's definitely lying.
 

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Rhythm heaven is popular in japan.

We got 2 highly requested characters yes and I hope Isaac will follow but honestly I hope we'll have some surprises, or else it will just be a fan's roster.
Would a Rhythm Heaven rep count as a surprise to you? Because then it would still be a fan roster, as its popular in Japan. Otherwise what kind of surprises do you mean? I don't want another Wii Fit Trainer.

I wouldn't mind it at all if a Rhythm Heaven rep got in. They'd definitely be one of the more unique characters like Villager and I'm sure would be fun to play.
 
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I wouldn't be complaining if it was "just" a fan's roster. That would be an amazing roster....and frankly I'd like to see people from the Smash community getting a character they want instead of getting "Labo Man" or something like that.

Though if Sakurai wants to surprise us with adding Chibi Robo or Phoenix Wright to the roster, I won't complain. :p

That said I think if we do get a surprise, it'll probably still be a character from the ballot....just maybe one that didn't perform as well. (like maybe a Custom Robo character)
I'll still cross my fingers for the chorus kids, they're first party, were considered and all. Anyways I think the next round of reveals will be determinant.

Eagle Eagle I mean they would inject fresh blood in the roster because maybe Castlevania aside up until now all revealed characters are just the most wanted. And that is cool no denying that but I just hope Sakurai is not just throwing the ballot at us and other series get a chance.
 
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I'll still cross my fingers for the chorus kids, they're first party, were considered and all. Anyways I think the next round of reveals will be determinant.
I wouldn't really consider Rhythm Heaven a "surprise" or an "out there" choice though. Alongside Golden Sun I'd say it's the Nintendo IP most likely to get a spot on the roster. The franchise is a pretty big deal in Japan after all.

I feel like there are a number of unrepped Nintendo franchises that would fall under both "fan pick" and "surprise".

Chibi-Robo
Custom Robo
Advance Wars
Dillon's Rolling Western
Sin & Punishment
Panel De Pon

They're all kind of bubbling under in terms of popularity and if Sakurai wanted to go with a surprise while still also being a fan pick, he could choose to include a character from one of these franchises. I'm not saying it's likely, but if we get a "Sakurai Surprise" I think this could be the form it takes.

That said I'm not convinced there will be enough unique characters to make this possible though.
 
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I wouldn't really consider Rhythm Heaven a "surprise" or an "out there" choice though. Alongside Golden Sun I'd say it's the Nintendo IP most likely to get a spot on the roster. The franchise is a pretty big deal in Japan after all.

I feel like there are a number of unrepped Nintendo franchises that would fall under both "fan pick" and "surprise".

Chibi-Robo
Custom Robo
Advance Wars
Dillon's Rolling Western
Sin & Punishment
Panel De Pon

They're all kind of bubbling under in terms of popularity and if Sakurai wanted to go with a surprise while still also being a fan pick, he could choose to include a character from one of these franchises. I'm not saying it's likely, but if we get a "Sakurai Surprise" I think this could be the form it takes.

That said I'm not convinced there will be enough unique characters to make this possible though.
Sadly, you might be correct. :<
 

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So I, like, practically have zero clue who Isaac is (sort of).

But I like his design, what little I've seen of Golden Sun appeals to me. So yeah, I support the guy for Smash.
I plan to eventually! Just too busy atm for long RPGs (plus I just started Okami HD as well which is another long game I hear.)
Golden Sun (the first one at least) isn't that long, it's about as long as the average Pokémon game.
Hello again, Lynn here. Thought I'd share a bit of an excerpt from over on the top 10 character poll.

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5. Geno - 168 (+33)
4. Banjo & Kazooie - 187 (+36)

3. Dixie Kong - 212 (+36)
2. Bandanna Dee - 221 (+25)

1. Isaac - 224 (+41)

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For the nonce, Isaac has overtaken Bandanna Dee, and now leads overall. Well done!
Definitely! And you guys are number one now! It's great to see Issac and Geno have come so far from supposed oblivion to such major parts of the newcomer speculation forum.
We've now surpassed the Ashley thread in page count. 0_0
We are Number One except it's Golden Sun.
 

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I mean, i knew he was full of **** from the start.

What "leaker" would go on and on by telling everyone every single update he gets, but also closing his account for no reason???

He's definitely lying.
That wasn't even the worst part. Now he gave a lot of teasing tweets last night as if he was finally certain about some stuff, and now today he tweeted he knows nothing about the role of skull kid. Total discrepancy and contradicting himself at this point. The man has lost it and doesn't even know how to be a good troll. Either way… if Isaac and Skull kid gets confirmed, I'm pretty sure we never needed a leaker to tell us anyways, the evidence has been teased and hinted by Nintendo all along after all.
 

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That wasn't even the worst part. Now he gave a lot of teasing tweets last night as if he was finally certain about some stuff, and now today he tweeted he knows nothing about the role of skull kid. Total discrepancy and contradicting himself at this point. The man has lost it and doesn't even know how to be a good troll. Either way… if Isaac and Skull kid gets confirmed, I'm pretty sure we never needed a leaker to tell us anyways, the evidence has been teased and hinted by Nintendo all along after all.
It would be the Ultimate "Dorothy could go home the whole time" moment.
We didn't need the leaks. We knew they were there the whole time!
 

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Rhythm heaven is popular in japan.

We got 2 highly requested characters yes and I hope Isaac will follow but honestly I hope we'll have some surprises, or else it will just be a fan's roster.
I still think Sakurai will sneak in one curveball for the final base reveal (Yuyuki Goku, as seen on my sig). Having one is probably a spot he saves for in all of his roster plans.
 
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So, yet another "leak" is out (similar to the Gardevoir/Gothielle one) saying Camelot has no interest in Golden Sun and declinded Isaac and Felix for the game.


Like.. wut?

Didn't the Takahashi brothers do an interview saying that when they were designing Mario's role in Aces' story, they thought about him being somewhat like an Adept from Golden Sun? I'm sure they would be thrilled to have Isaac in Smash Bros., as Golden Sun was their most successful property ever developed (and before people suggest the Mario sports game, Nintendo made those in-house first and then Camelot took over due to their familiarity with golf games, since they were responsible for creating Sony's "Everybody's Golf"), and if this goes over huge in the community, this would help set up more Golden Sun games down the road.
 

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So, yet another "leak" is out (similar to the Gardevoir/Gothielle one) saying Camelot has no interest in Golden Sun and declinded Isaac and Felix for the game.


Like.. wut?

Didn't the Takahashi brothers do an interview saying that when they were designing Mario's role in Aces' story, they thought about him being somewhat like an Adept from Golden Sun? I'm sure they would be thrilled to have Isaac in Smash Bros., as Golden Sun was their most successful property ever developed (and before people suggest the Mario sports game, Nintendo made those in-house first and then Camelot took over due to their familiarity with golf games, since they were responsible for creating Sony's "Everybody's Golf"), and if this goes over huge in the community, this would help set up more Golden Sun games down the road.
This makes no sense....

WHY WOULD YOU LIMIT YOUR OWN PROPERTY FROM GROWING?!
 
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So, yet another "leak" is out (similar to the Gardevoir/Gothielle one) saying Camelot has no interest in Golden Sun and declinded Isaac and Felix for the game.

Dark meta knight, Gothitelle, no Golden sun ... trash.
 

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So, yet another "leak" is out (similar to the Gardevoir/Gothielle one) saying Camelot has no interest in Golden Sun and declinded Isaac and Felix for the game.


Like.. wut?

Didn't the Takahashi brothers do an interview saying that when they were designing Mario's role in Aces' story, they thought about him being somewhat like an Adept from Golden Sun? I'm sure they would be thrilled to have Isaac in Smash Bros., as Golden Sun was their most successful property ever developed (and before people suggest the Mario sports game, Nintendo made those in-house first and then Camelot took over due to their familiarity with golf games, since they were responsible for creating Sony's "Everybody's Golf"), and if this goes over huge in the community, this would help set up more Golden Sun games down the road.
I saw that before. Its definitely full of **** lol. No way would Camelot decline adding Isaac into Smash. Even if they don't plan to make a new game, if Sakurai asked they'd definitely help him incorporate Isaac well.
 
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I saw that before. Its definitely full of **** lol. No way would Camelot decline adding Isaac into Smash. Even if they don't plan to make a new game, if Sakurai asked they'd definitely help him incorporate Isaac well.
If they let Waluigi in the game, they sure as hell would let Isaac in the game.

God, do these leakers think we're stupid or what?
 

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Camelot knows Isaac would be the next bayonetta and Doesn't want to release that on the world for fear of backlash for golden sun 4.
 
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