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Sunrise, Sunset - Isaac for Smash Ultimate #GoldenSunday

Muirkat

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Silo777 said:
Honestly, I’m having a hard time keeping my excitement down after seeing how many other people want Isaac in smash. It’s like there are two voices in my head, one saying “This is it! Get excited!” And one saying “Calm down, don’t get your hopes up” and I don’t know what one to listen to lol
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Actual footage of me trying to hype responsibly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJPHu7tVlJQ
 
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Isaac: Venus Adept said:
If Sakurai actually checks replies he should notice that the Golden Sun replies on his tweet stand out the most
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Even if he doesn't check tweets in the Smash community Isaac is going viral. If he checks Reddit he's there. Youtube he's there.

There's only so much turning away before you just accept the sun is in your eyes
 
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CheckmateChuck said:
There's likely going to be one in September, I doubt Nintendo would release their online features without trying to get some excitement going.
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4,000th post!

I wonder if people actually recognize that they made certain milestones for this thread here.

I think it’s time to play the waiting game. We probably aren’t going to get anything Smash related for some time, (the only thing I can think is possible is someone like Elma revealed around Gamescon? since something related to her is likely to pop up).
 
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Well I have to get up for work in... four hours, Jesus Christ. Crazy how fast this hype stuff comes out of nowhere. Every day until the next direct is going to be torturous.
 
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time flies when you're invested

Okay, so now i want to know.
Was there ever a rumor suggesting Isaac was considered a character one point, but dropped?

I have never heard of this rumor.
 
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XenoWarriorX said:
time flies when you're invested

Okay, so now i want to know.
Was there ever a rumor suggesting Isaac was considered a character one point, but dropped?

I have never heard of this rumor.
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Not necessarily, it's purely speculation. People were suspicious of Isaac's complete removal with no mentions whatsoever, because he was already a fairly popular suggestion. It seemed like an odd omission.

In this thread, I saw a few other ideas, like Isaac's Move hand being too complex for the 3ds to constantly render. The idea that he was considered for the base game, but not added as a DLC character does make sense. The only thing about this that I question is why Sakurai would't put Isaac back in as an AT if he was unable to complete him as a last minute addition.
 
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DogManStar said:
Not necessarily, it's purely speculation. People were suspicious of Isaac's complete removal with no mentions whatsoever, because he was already a fairly popular suggestion. It seemed like an odd omission.

In this thread, I saw a few other ideas, like Isaac's Move hand being too complex for the 3ds to constantly render. The idea that he was considered for the base game, but not added as a DLC character does make sense. The only thing about this that I question is why Sakurai would't put Isaac back in as an AT if he was unable to complete him as a last minute addition.
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Because if it was indeed Isaac's Move that was to blame, then it would be the same for the AT. The Move is a projectile and that remains the same regardless of whether or not the Object casting it is a Playable or an AT (I used to do game development before I hung up my keyboard)
 
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Guys I couldn't read all the discussion, but where I can find a summary of all the news , leaks rumor etc?
 
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Muirkat said:
Oh if Isaac gets in, I've got a video mostly made to celebrate. I just need to plug in footage from his announcement trailer to finish it.
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That sounds cool. When he hopefully gets in I'm really interested in how that video will turn out. I'll definitely share it on the Twitter account
 
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If Isaac gets in I'll be going full Vicar of Dibley (which is running around the village screaming like a lunatic)

Probably the first time in any Smash Bros forum a Vicar of Dibley reference was made :p
 
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Isaac: Venus Adept said:
That sounds cool. When he hopefully gets in I'm really interested in how that video will turn out. I'll definitely share it on the Twitter account
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It's sort of meme-y, but would also just an honest reaction of how we would ALL feel if he made it in.
 
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10 pages? Sorry guys but I can't keep up. I have to get back to work. I'll chat again when a new Direct gets announced.
 
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Forgive me if something similar has already been mentioned, but I read something on reddit that made a really good point.


Sakurai talks about how he doesn't use social media that much because he thinks "Smash fans are crazy." He talks about how he has to word everything carefully in a way where nothing can be interpreted wrongly or misunderstood. This interview happened a while back which basically means that this image fiasco was intentional.
 
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Sykin said:
Forgive me if something similar has already been mentioned, but I read something on reddit that made a really good point.


Sakurai talks about how he doesn't use social media that much because he thinks "Smash fans are crazy." He talks about how he has to word everything carefully in a way where nothing can be interpreted wrongly or misunderstood. This interview happened a while back which basically means that this image fiasco was intentional.
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He's got a point. Smash fans are the most notable to jump onto the "It's X confirmed" wagon. The only reason I'm not eye-rolling with the Isaac fiasco is because it genuinely looks like it was intentional. Especially when you compare it to all the other AT images on the website.
 
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Tetiro said:
He's got a point. Smash fans are the most notable to jump onto the "It's X confirmed" wagon. The only reason I'm not eye-rolling with the Isaac fiasco is because it genuinely looks like it was intentional. Especially when you compare it to all the other AT images on the website.
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That's a fair assumption given the Smash community, but how can we not look at it that way. It just screams Golden Sun and out of all the things I get how awesome it is to see Rathalos fight Nintendo characters, but it is all speculation without confirmation. Coincidence or not, we as a supporting Golden Sun community will find anything to keep it alive in our minds and in our hearts.

Honestly, it is that bad that we want that? Especially when we finally have a tiny glimmer of hope after having our franchise in the freezer for so long?
 
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Tiymako said:
That's a fair assumption given the Smash community, but how can we not look at it that way. It just screams Golden Sun and out of all the things I get how awesome it is to see Rathalos fight Nintendo characters, but it is all speculation without confirmation. Coincidence or not, we as a supporting Golden Sun community will find anything to keep it alive in our minds and in our hearts.

Honestly, it is that bad that we want that? Especially when we finally have a tiny glimmer of hope after having our franchise in the freezer for so long?
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Oh and I agree! This one time I am not eye-rolling and instead and rolling with it :)

But a better example of what I meant would be Waluigi/Skull Kid and the furniture. At least this one is slap bang in the face a reference without stretching it to make it a reference

I've wanted Isaac for over 10 years in Smash Bros. Wii U was a bad time...
 
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Tetiro said:
The only reason I'm not eye-rolling with the Isaac fiasco is because it genuinely looks like it was intentional. Especially when you compare it to all the other AT images on the website.
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Who knows though, maybe he's doing this kind of "particular" tweet to set us up for a trap via Isaac being an AT or not even in the game at all, just to drive his point on us about how easily we get wrapped up to our crazy conclusions.

Hence I'm not trying to buy on this as much anymore to be alert of the future.
 
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We probably won't receive any more character news until September so we're just playing the waiting game at this point, though I do expect we'll get a new Demo at gamescom that includes the newcomers from the Smash Direct.
 
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Billybae10K said:
We probably won't receive any more character news until September so we're just playing the waiting game at this point, though I do expect we'll get a new Demo at gamescom that includes the newcomers from the Smash Direct.
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Good point. In that case we have a long journey.

All aboard the Hype Train to the continent of Weyard. Our first stop will be Vale to pick up a few passangers. Does everyone have their tickets?
 
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In my opinion, this tweet is a deliberate attempt by Sakurai to drive up Isaac's popularity and speculation.

He obviously knows Isaac is pretty popular, but in some sections of the net, he's still unknown or often gets confused with the BOI Isaac. Making such a tweet will increase the Golden Sun speculation with relation to the tweet, and make the Smash fanbase hyped up and ready for when Isaac actually launches.

He made this tweet so we'd spread Isaac's word even more, he's on our side here!
 
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Tetiro said:
Oh and I agree! This one time I am not eye-rolling and instead and rolling with it :)

But a better example of what I meant would be Waluigi/Skull Kid and the furniture. At least this one is slap bang in the face a reference without stretching it to make it a reference

I've wanted Isaac for over 10 years in Smash Bros. Wii U was a bad time...
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I feel a great amount of despair remembering nothing truly related to Golden Sun in Smash.

Yeah, but the colors for Skull Kid match it way more than Waluigi. Also can Waluigi fans just get over this already, it is starting to make them look desperate and kind of really sad.. As much as I love Waluigi, I am just happy that he is in Smash in general. :D

I feel you on the decade long wait, let's stay positive at least as a community.

~ Valkyrie ~ said:
Who knows though, maybe he's doing this kind of "particular" tweet to set us up for a trap via Isaac being an AT or not even in the game at all, just to drive his point on us about how easily we get wrapped up to our crazy conclusions.

Hence I'm not trying to buy on this as much anymore to be alert of the future.
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You are so right and that scares me, but at least it would have been fun while it lasted.. I still don't want to give up hope. I still believe Isaac as an AT first and a playable rep second. As long as I am hype for either it won't be as disappointing.

Tetiro said:
Good point. In that case we have a long journey.

All aboard the Hype Train to the continent of Weyard. Our first stop will be Vale to pick up a few passangers. Does everyone have their tickets?
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I bought doubles just to make sure I don't lose the first one. :D
 
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Tiymako said:
I feel a great amount of despair remembering nothing truly related to Golden Sun in Smash.

Yeah, but the colors for Skull Kid match it way more than Waluigi. Also can Waluigi fans just get over this already, it is starting to make them look desperate and kind of really sad.. As much as I love Waluigi, I am just happy that he is in Smash in general. :D

I feel you on the decade long wait, let's stay positive at least as a community.
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I'm a Waluigi supporter myself but I respect Sakurai's decision. If he can't figure out a moveset yet or doesn't see Waluigi's fandom then I get it. At least he knows for next time.

I'll be the same for Isaac. Except in Isaac's case if he gets deconfirmed I'll be wrapping myself in a duvet eating food related to him (Golden Delicious Apples, Haribo Gold Bears, Lyles Golden Syrup Cake, an Ice Cream SUNdae...)

Got to stay positive!
 
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LasermasterA said:
In my opinion, this tweet is a deliberate attempt by Sakurai to drive up Isaac's popularity and speculation.

He obviously knows Isaac is pretty popular, but in some sections of the net, he's still unknown or often gets confused with the BOI Isaac. Making such a tweet will increase the Golden Sun speculation with relation to the tweet, and make the Smash fanbase hyped up and ready for when Isaac actually launches.

He made this tweet so we'd spread Isaac's word even more, he's on our side here!
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I really, truly want to believe you. However, I am super skeptical at this point xD

Tetiro said:
I'm a Waluigi supporter myself but I respect Sakurai's decision. If he can't figure out a moveset yet or doesn't see Waluigi's fandom then I get it. At least he knows for next time.

I'll be the same for Isaac. Except in Isaac's case if he gets deconfirmed I'll be wrapping myself in a duvet eating food related to him (Golden Delicious Apples, Haribo Gold Bears, Lyles Golden Syrup Cake, an Ice Cream SUNdae...)

Got to stay positive!
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To be honest, I would be crying out of happiness or sadness.. I would probably be eating a crap load of sweets just to forget xD
 
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Sykin said:
Forgive me if something similar has already been mentioned, but I read something on reddit that made a really good point.


Sakurai talks about how he doesn't use social media that much because he thinks "Smash fans are crazy." He talks about how he has to word everything carefully in a way where nothing can be interpreted wrongly or misunderstood. This interview happened a while back which basically means that this image fiasco was intentional.
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It does make me think that he probably doesn't post anything carelessly.

If it was created as a reference to Golden Sun and Isaac isn't playable, I'd be surprised to see Sakurai bringing attention to it. Since he's already well aware of the buzz his tweets can create. The alternative being that this picture isn't meant to reference Golden Sun and it's just a coincidence that's being blown out of proportion.

It's some kind of coincidence if it is though...

~ Valkyrie ~ said:
Who knows though, maybe he's doing this kind of "particular" tweet to set us up for a trap via Isaac being an AT or not even in the game at all, just to drive his point on us about how easily we get wrapped up to our crazy conclusions.
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I don't think Sakurai is like that though. I think he genuinely cares about his fans. Most of the time people portray Sakurai as cruel or mean spirited is because he disconfirmed their character or didn't do something people wanted. (but that has nothing to do with cruelty)

I don't think he would intentionally mess with a fanbase like that.
 
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Travix Man said:
Sign me up as a supporter! As King K. Rool just got into Smash Ultimate, I thought about some of the other characters that supported during Smash 4, with Isaac being one of them. Though I never officially put my support in the Smash 4 thread, I'd like to put in my support for this game. If a villain who made his last appearance 10 years ago could make a grand return in Smash Ultimate, a hero like Isaac can too.
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Yoshi444 said:
Hello. I'm new here and my English is really bad but I need to express my support for Isaac.
First, I'm Peruvian and here we can't buy Nintendo stuff easily for the excessive price and the short salary. But thankfully when I was a child my cousins had a N64 and I became an Smash fan quickly. In 2011 when I was 13 I saved money for a year to buy a Wii with Brawl.
When I saw Isaac with his giant hand that was "love at the first see" and I became a fan of Golden Sun but I couldn't play his games :(. In the Wii U era I planned to buy the console if they had added Isaac but they didn't. I was very very sad and I lost my hope and interest for Isaac and his franchise.
6 months ago I remember that old times and finally played GS 1 and TLA in an emulator. I loved that games and since that time I multuplied my Isaac support for infinite. If they add Isaac I would lose my mind and make me very happy, seriously I need him. These Smash days where Isaac was ignored were really painful for me and I even couldn't sleep thinking about that. But today that 'leak' or 'clue' revive my hope. I didn't want to hype that image but man, it's very promising. Thank you for support Isaac and not let him die all those years and if he finally come to Smash I will main him for the rest of my life. RIP Yoshi.
#IsaacForSmash
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spoilerowl said:
Hello, feel free to add me to the supporter list. I'm in a rather odd position with this character, I have never once played a Golden Sun game, but having been a part of newcomer speculation since the Brawl days (at least in some way, shape, or form), I know how popular this character is and how passionate his fanbase is, and that makes me want him in as well. Honestly, I've always thought that the reason his AT was missing from 4 is that he was planned at some point and then for some reason didn't make it in, and they just never re-added the AT.

I'm optimistic that that Rathalos screenshot is indeed a hint, or at worst a nod (which would still be a good sign).
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isaac3000

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Tetiro said:
I'm a Waluigi supporter myself but I respect Sakurai's decision. If he can't figure out a moveset yet or doesn't see Waluigi's fandom then I get it. At least he knows for next time.

I'll be the same for Isaac. Except in Isaac's case if he gets deconfirmed I'll be wrapping myself in a duvet eating food related to him (Golden Delicious Apples, Haribo Gold Bears, Lyles Golden Syrup Cake, an Ice Cream SUNdae...)

Got to stay positive!
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Don't forget to eat Golden Sun rice: https://images.wogibtswas.at/data/i...n-sun-premium-langkorn-reis-45-kg-1124568.jpg
 
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Sabrewulf238 said:
It does make me think that he probably doesn't post anything carelessly.

If it was created as a reference to Golden Sun and Isaac isn't playable, I'd be surprised to see Sakurai bringing attention to it. Since he's already well aware of the buzz his tweets can create. The alternative being that this picture isn't meant to reference Golden Sun and it's just a coincidence that's being blown out of proportion.

It's some kind of coincidence if it is though...



I don't think Sakurai is like that though. I think he genuinely cares about his fans. Most of the time people portray Sakurai is cruel or mean spirited is because he disconfirmed their character or didn't do something people wanted. (but that has nothing to do with cruelty)

I don't think he would intentionally mess with a fanbase like that.
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I just hope we can be ready for whatever happens in the future, deconfirmation or not, Golden Sun's popularity is spiking immensely. Even in the end result will conclude that by the end of it all, we will have more fans than ever before.

I truly believe Sakurai tries so hard to impress all his fans and even in the end as long as we are thankful for what we got and are grateful for all the work him and his team has done for us. Than all that deconfirmation will be water under the bridge and hopefully show the respect that Sakurai and the Dev team deserve.
 
CheckmateChuck

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With how much traction there is in our favour right now and just how much demand there is for any type of Golden Sun representation, even if it doesn't happen this time around, I'd like to think it's only going to be more and more likely from here on out. It's not like we're going to pack up and go home if we're let down again.
 
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