Sunrise, Sunset - Isaac for Smash Ultimate #GoldenSunday

[3DSNinja]

I really like SSF2 Isaac.
He uses both overworld Psynergy and battle Psynergy

 

[N3ON]

Dark Samus likely will get a more developped moveset in the next game, if she is kept in (which I think she will, since there is very few Metroid characters). Most echoes that are kept probably will.

Depends how drastic the cuts are. She's probably the least safe of the four Metroid characters.

 

[3DSNinja]

I think she's safe; the metroid cast is small and i don't see Sakurai cutting any of them

 

[N3ON]

Again; it depends on how drastic the cuts are. If they shear down sizeable chunks of the roster so as to give the series a pseudo-reboot, then she's probably gone. If they just move forward with the base they've already got, like they did with 4 to Ultimate, the only characters that make sense to axe are those they couldn't re-license.

 

[Kalaam]

Same. I think it's even likely she'll get a full revamp to make her even more different from base Samus.
About SSF2 Isaac, I'm not fan of his neutral B, it feels clunky to me to have Hand psynergy like that. I personnaly prefer it to stay as his grab and throws. Maybe in the jab, as the third hit to push away the opponent a set distance (for guaranteed combos at any %, but not doing damage)

 

[3DSNinja]

The Hand Psynergy is Side-B.
And The Hand psynergy is his jab

 

[Isaac: Venus Adept]

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Xay is a blessing

 

[GoodGrief741]

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Xay is a blessing

How do I like a post twice?

 

[3DSNinja]

Simple, you get your alt to like the post.

 

[GoodGrief741]

Simple, you get your alt to like the post.

*gasp* Am I... Your alt?

 

[3DSNinja]

Nope.
Ornl is, because I needed an alt to annoy everyone with.

 

[SPEN18]

I think it's highly unlikely that Dark Samus becomes any less of a clone. Without being able to be an Echo she probably didn't have much chance of being playable in the first place. Most likely outcome IMO is that she is just cut for the next game.

And yeah, let's not label Mac as "just a boxer." He's got a good lot of interesting mechanics that help him represent his series well.

 

[FlawedAI]

I think it's highly unlikely that Dark Samus becomes any less of a clone. Without being able to be an Echo she probably didn't have much chance of being playable in the first place. Most likely outcome IMO is that she is just cut for the next game.

And yeah, let's not label Mac as "just a boxer." He's got a good lot of interesting mechanics that help him represent his series well.

This is entirely off-topic, but despite seeing your profile picture for like a year I just now took a good look at it and I love it.

 

[SonicLink125]

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Can you imagine what that interview was like? Lol

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The OG boys are here!

 

[Cadillac]

This is just a what-if scenario, but how would you react to an assist getting promoted, but it's not Isaac or Waluigi? Someone like Takamaru, Ashley, Shovel Knight, Shadow etc.

 

[ZelDan]

This is just a what-if scenario, but how would you react to an assist getting promoted, but it's not Isaac or Waluigi? Someone like Takamaru, Ashley, Shovel Knight, Shadow etc.

Shovel Knight Would be awesome. he was one of my most wanteds along with Isaac.

Outside of those 2, the only other ones that'd be of interest to me are Megaman Zero and Alucard.

Lyn is a character I also have wanted to be get promoted, but with Three Houses (one of my favorite FEs) getting the content it did, and me knowing the Lyn would probably cause the Smash community to get sucked up in a vortex of salt, I can probably live without her at the moment (not saying I still wouldn't want her, but that I'm not pining for her as much as I would have over a year ago).

 

[Mav485]

This is just a what-if scenario, but how would you react to an assist getting promoted, but it's not Isaac or Waluigi? Someone like Takamaru, Ashley, Shovel Knight, Shadow etc.

It would sting, but there are some choice options to take in this type of scenario even without getting Isaac. Midna, Shadow, Krystal, and Shovel Knight are all characters I’d like to see get an upgrade. I’d be more baffled than anything if Waluigi were to be skipped over again in a world of AT upgrades. He’s not a character I’m jonesing for by any stretch, but I’m still kinda stunned he isn’t playable.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Dark Samus likely will get a more developped moveset in the next game, if she is kept in (which I think she will, since there is very few Metroid characters). Most echoes that are kept probably will.

We said the same for Lucina and Dark Pit last time.

 

[Kalaam]

True. Though both of them are carbon copies of the original. Dark Samus does have abilities that samus doesn't get. Not saying it's certain, just likely.

 

[3DSNinja]

This is just a what-if scenario, but how would you react to an assist getting promoted, but it's not Isaac or Waluigi? Someone like Takamaru, Ashley, Shovel Knight, Shadow etc.

If it's shadow I would cry tears of joy. shovel Knight I would be happy, same with Zero, Knux, Bomberman, Alucard, etc

 

[SPEN18]

This is entirely off-topic, but despite seeing your profile picture for like a year I just now took a good look at it and I love it.

Thanks, edited it myself.

 

[Organization XIII]

This is just a what-if scenario, but how would you react to an assist getting promoted, but it's not Isaac or Waluigi? Someone like Takamaru, Ashley, Shovel Knight, Shadow etc.

I'd still be happy. It would very much stop the community view of ATs as a death sentence. That means Isaac would no longer be dead in general speculation talks.

 

[Isaac: Venus Adept]

I'd still be happy. It would very much stop the community view of ATs as a death sentence. That means Isaac would no longer be dead in general speculation talks.

I have the exact same thoughts. As long as we also get a new Golden Sun release and it does well Isaac will remain really strong. I think even without that GS release he can still have huge demand for Smash. I really think it's a matter of when not if

 

[GoodGrief741]

This is just a what-if scenario, but how would you react to an assist getting promoted, but it's not Isaac or Waluigi? Someone like Takamaru, Ashley, Shovel Knight, Shadow etc.

I'd be confused at first, especially if it was my man Takamaru, but I'd be ecstatic. I really want all of those characters. And AT promotions being a thing, no matter for whom, would shut this fanbase up forever. So that's a sweet bonus.

 

[MeatOfJustice]

This is just a what-if scenario, but how would you react to an assist getting promoted, but it's not Isaac or Waluigi? Someone like Takamaru, Ashley, Shovel Knight, Shadow etc.

Surprised, and then sad because I wouldn't expect another upgrade.

 

[Pinguino21v]

This is just a what-if scenario, but how would you react to an assist getting promoted, but it's not Isaac or Waluigi? Someone like Takamaru, Ashley, Shovel Knight, Shadow etc.

If it was Waluigi, I would be afraid that he would be the only one.
If it was an unrep IP like Takamaru, I would be happy mostly for the perspective it opens.
If it was an already represented IP (Shadow, Ashley...), I would have both these feelings.

 

[SonicLink125]

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A fun poll for FP Vol. 2 is out from PapaGenos’s Discord server! Already put Isaac in. :D

 

[ZelDan]

I'd be confused at first, especially if it was my man Takamaru, but I'd be ecstatic. I really want all of those characters. And AT promotions being a thing, no matter for whom, would shut this fanbase up forever. So that's a sweet bonus.

Don't underestimate how silly parts of the Smash base can get. even if an AT got promoted they could still be like "yeah, AT characters have gotten promoted within the same game before with Isaac and Shovel Knight, but we have yet to see an AT who was purple get promoted, so there's still no chance in hell Waluigi is getting promoted!"

 

[3DSNinja]

Ok, that would be HILARIOUS.

 

[Guynamednelson]

but we have yet to see an AT who was purple get promoted, so there's still no chance in hell Waluigi is getting promoted!

Worst way to revive the Color Theory.

 

[Cadillac]

For me, the other Assist Trophy who's worthy of being promoted other than the Camelot bros is Takamaru.
I mean, he haven't got a single game for 34 years now, and he got cut twice. Not once, but TWICE. If he gets promoted, I won't feel bad about it. He earned it fair and square.

 

[FlawedAI]

For me, the other Assist Trophy who's worthy of being promoted other than the Camelot bros is Takamaru.
I mean, he haven't got a single game for 34 years now, and he got cut twice. Not once, but TWICE. If he gets promoted, I won't feel bad about it. He earned it fair and square.

I'd like to add to this with Shovel Knight and Bomberman: both very deserving of a full slot on the roster, just not quite as popular.

 

[SPEN18]

Lyn, Takamaru, Skull Kid.

Edit: if cut ATs are allowed then Saki, Ray MK III.

 

[GoodGrief741]

They could probably make a new Smash game where the newcomers are just AT promotions and I'd love all of them. So many of the characters reduced to ATs are full of potential, it's so sad. But it's good that we already have Charizard, Little Mac, Dark Samus and Isabelle setting precedent.

 

[TempestSurge]

Funny moment in Maximilian Dood's recent Smash vid where he's trying out Byleth with some friends. Isaac's assist pops up and the Banjo player (don't know if it was Max or some other guy) yells out, 'Dead franchise Man!' as he tries to attack Isaac and then runs off into a tornado in the 64 Hyrule stage. It was pretty hilarious dissing the series and immediately dying after. How satisfying lol. The general consensus is the series is dead so the reaction to a new game coming out is going to be so wild lol.

 

[Guynamednelson]

Funny moment in Maximilian Dood's recent Smash vid where he's trying out Byleth with some friends. Isaac's assist pops up and the Banjo player (don't know if it was Max or some other guy) yells out, 'Dead franchise Man!' as he tries to attack Isaac and then runs off into a tornado in the 64 Hyrule stage. It was pretty hilarious dissing the series and immediately dying after. How satisfying lol. The general consensus is the series is dead so the reaction to a new game coming out is going to be so wild lol.

You'd think a Banjo player wouldn't be the one to do that.

 

[SonicLink125]

Funny moment in Maximilian Dood's recent Smash vid where he's trying out Byleth with some friends. Isaac's assist pops up and the Banjo player (don't know if it was Max or some other guy) yells out, 'Dead franchise Man!' as he tries to attack Isaac and then runs off into a tornado in the 64 Hyrule stage. It was pretty hilarious dissing the series and immediately dying after. How satisfying lol. The general consensus is the series is dead so the reaction to a new game coming out is going to be so wild lol.

Karma at its finest. Hehe.

 

[Nazyrus]

I need to watch that moment lol

 

[TempestSurge]

It happens around the 10 min. mark (his Byleth video is 12 min in all so in case anyways wants to just get to that part lol). I know I watched it several times already, wasn't expecting it and the instant karma moment made it especially hilarious haha.

 

[ArkSPiTFirE]

Yeah I saw that. So does Banjo being in Smash not make him a dead franchise?

Was funny to see the Karma. And Isaac did get a kill after.