Stryks presents: War of the clubs 2.0! UPDATE: 18/03/08

[Shuma]

"She was in MP2 also....wait.."

NO, she wasn't. She appeared in the 100% ending. Fail 1.

"They also said:"

Sakurai said that. Not Nintendo. Fail 2.

"Explain Weavel?"

Weavel's ship looks nothing like that. Fail 3.

You're out.

 

[antimatter]

thanks shuma and stryks. and nice dedede sig, t-major. you know something cool i just saw? you can replace samus's ship with sylux's with an action replay for metroid prime hunters.

 

[Patinator]

...If you use an Action Replay DS MAX, right? T_T

 

[antimatter]

i dont know what it's called, but i believe it is the newest one. there are weird versions of Palkia and Dialga on the box art.

found good pic of weavel's ship. shame it wasnt shown in game.

 

[IsmaR]

Stryks to the rescue!

Not again

Dark samus IS dead, the planet phaaze, who dark samus is connected to, was destroyed, right before the esplosion, u can see all of the phazon absorbed before the implosion, thus all phazon was rid from the galaxy, as the credits lady says so, and with no phazon for dark samus to absrob, shes dead...

Wasn't Ganondorf supposed to be trapped forever in the end of OoT?
My point is, they can do whatever the **** they want. You don't have to assume that you know everything. And MP created phazon, DS absorbed it to survive. Who's to say they won't come up with some BS thing where she doesn't need phazon.

also:
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=xLfmzZ4Eiqs

conclusion: its syluxs ship...

No, conclusion: Action replay sucks, and it looks similar to Sylux's ship. I'll say it's Sylux's ship when the next game says it is.

btw the next comics are almost done, I did mine, and rey is finishing the other one, thus wait a bit more!

Well hurry up already!

"She was in MP2 also....wait.."

NO, she wasn't. She appeared in the 100% ending. Fail 1.

And someone HAS to be in the 100% ending to return, right?

"They also said:"

Sakurai said that. Not Nintendo. Fail 2.

Regi said that, not Sakurai.

"Explain Weavel?"

Weavel's ship looks nothing like that. Fail 3.

It could look like it if they wanted. Samus's ship got a redsign, and who's to say Weavel's(or anyone's) couldn't?

You're out.

Nuh uhh!!!!

Well yeah, it's not gonna be DS, but I'm not wrong about anything else. The creators could make Ridley the space pope for all they care. If it's Sylux, then yay for Sylux

 

[Sinistar]

Oh my god

Space Pope

Geniyus!

 

[Shuma]

"Wasn't Ganondorf supposed to be trapped forever in the end of OoT?
My point is, they can do whatever the **** they want. You don't have to assume that you know everything. And MP created phazon, DS absorbed it to survive. Who's to say they won't come up with some BS thing where she doesn't need phazon."

Ganondorf is Inmortal. Also Dark Samus IS phazon. No phazon=no dark sammy. Also, Dark Samus is Prime.

And Ganondorf wasn't trapped, play TP.

"And someone HAS to be in the 100% ending to return, right?"

What? this doesn't even make sense. You said she was dead, i said she wasn't. And she wasn't. there's not even a counter argument for that, so whatever you're trying to say it's either irrelevant or stupid.

"Regi said that, not Sakurai."

*rolls eyes* Ok.

"It could look like it if they wanted. Samus's ship got a redsign, and who's to say Weavel's(or anyone's) couldn't?"

What the crap? are you deliberately trying to be stupid?

 

[Sinistar]

Yes I am.

*shot*

 

[Shuma]

lolwut?

10 wolfenmasters.

 

[IsmaR]

Oh my god

Space Pope

Geniyus!

"Wasn't Ganondorf supposed to be trapped forever in the end of OoT?
My point is, they can do whatever the **** they want. You don't have to assume that you know everything. And MP created phazon, DS absorbed it to survive. Who's to say they won't come up with some BS thing where she doesn't need phazon."

Ganondorf is Inmortal. Also Dark Samus IS phazon. No phazon=no dark sammy. Also, Dark Samus is Prime.

And Ganondorf wasn't trapped, play TP.

Ganondorf was killed at the end of TP after the triforce of power left him. And they decided to execute him. TP was an alternate timeline anyway, so yeah, he was trapped.

"And someone HAS to be in the 100% ending to return, right?"

What? this doesn't even make sense. You said she was dead, i said she wasn't. And she wasn't. there's not even a counter argument for that, so whatever you're trying to say it's either irrelevant or stupid.

I was saying that you don't HAVE to be in a 100% ending to be in the next game(look at Andross). You're either pissed at me, or just being an *******.

"It could look like it if they wanted. Samus's ship got a redsign, and who's to say Weavel's(or anyone's) couldn't?"

What the crap? are you deliberately trying to be stupid?

Are you deliberately trying to be Shuma?

 

[Shuma]

"Ganondorf was killed at the end of TP after the triforce of power left him. And they decided to execute him. TP was an alternate timeline anyway, so yeah, he was trapped."

You obviously don't know your Zelda story. The Triforce of power doesn't leave him. It "sleeps", thus ganondorf "dies". If the triforce awakens, so does Ganondorf. Also, the timeline is the one of young link(majoras mask). He is trapped on the windwaker timeline.

"I was saying that you don't HAVE to be in a 100% ending to be in the next game(look at Andross)."

Let me quote you:

She was in MP2 also....wait..

As an answer to:

Dark Samus is dead.

So i assume you said that she "died" in MP 2, she didn't.

"Are you deliberately trying to be Shuma?"

Obviously.

Edit:

I just noticed i'm arguing with a MOG SUPPORTER. Now it makes sense.

 

[Patinator]

...Shuma, IsmaR, knock it off! Intelligent discussion isn't allowed in this thread! I mean, jeez...

 

[Shuma]

NO U | U ON

10 wolfenmasters

 

[IsmaR]

I just realized, I'm arguing with Shuma...

 

[Patinator]

NO U | U ON

10 wolfenmasters

...Huh?

Spoiler

Ten characters.

 

[IsmaR]

Pat, that site has too much spam on the chatbox.

 

[Patinator]

Oh, you went! Good IsmaR... (^^ And um... What do you mean, chat box?

 

[§leepy God]

...Shuma, IsmaR, knock it off! Intelligent discussion isn't allowed in this thread! I mean, jeez...

lol, is that how it is? And I thought I new all the funny people.

 

[Patinator]

Aww, thanks. ^^

My statement would be much more appropriate for the General Brawl Discussion though. ^^;

 

[Sinistar]

Chatbox from Nexus?


Dont get me started plox.

 

[antimatter]

anyone like the weavel ship pic?

 

[T-major]

anyone like the weavel ship pic?

Weavel's ship is cool. but Samus' ship in Super Metroid is still the best ship ever :D

and Ganondorf didn't die in TP, because he's alive in Wind Waker. TP comes before WW in the time line, so, unless he died in WW, he isn't dead yet.

unlike Ganodorf, who has a plot device that allows him to keep returning; Dark Samus is dead, because the substance (Phazon) that kept her alive is gone. she can't survive anymore. it's like a sick person attached to a breathing machine. if you turn it off, they don't get any oxygen; and if they don't get any oxygen, they can't live...

really, It's obviously Sylux's ship. it's looks almost exactly like it, and everything thats different is just due to updated graphics. also, didn't Nintendo say in an interview or something that they planed on making one of the hunters return?

:EDIT:

Stryks, I contacted KumaOso, and he said that he will join the comic. :D

 

[antimatter]

cool beans, another person to talk to.

 

[platnum]

Weavel's ship is cool. but Samus' ship in Super Metroid is still the best ship ever :D

and Ganondorf didn't die in TP, because he's alive in Wind Waker. TP comes before WW in the time line, so, unless he died in WW, he isn't dead yet.

unlike Ganodorf, who has a plot device that allows him to keep returning; Dark Samus is dead, because the substance (Phazon) that kept her alive is gone. she can't survive anymore. it's like a sick person attached to a breathing machine. if you turn it off, they don't get any oxygen; and if they don't get any oxygen, they can't live...

really, It's obviously Sylux's ship. it's looks almost exactly like it, and everything thats different is just due to updated graphics. also, didn't Nintendo say in an interview or something that they planed on making one of the hunters return?

:EDIT:

Stryks, I contacted KumaOso, and he said that he will join the comic. :D

Just to clarify, WW and TP are in seperate timelines.


And yeah, that was Sylux's ship.

 

[Patinator]

and Ganondorf didn't die in TP, because he's alive in Wind Waker. TP comes before WW in the time line, so, unless he died in WW, he isn't dead yet.

NOOB! (Just kidding) Yes Ganondorf died in TP! Twilight Princess and Wind Waker are in different space-time continuum... Thingies. Alternate timelines, that's what I mean!

Both are sequels to Ocarina of Time, which is obvious. However, there's two different timelines: the one with no Link, IE the one Ganon was defeated in, which is where Wind Waker took place, and probably hundreds of years later. That's how everyone advanced in their coloration.

Twilight Princess takes at least a hundred years after MM and OoT, and in that timeline. TP Link is a descendant of OoT Link, but WW Link isn't a descendant of anyone special.

Did I help?

 

[Reyairia]

I think I read an official explanation about this;
Apparently at the end of Ocarina of Time when Link is sent back to the past the timeline splits. On one timeline, Link is sent back as a child and Majora's Mask starts which eventually leads to the Twilight Princess timeline, Ganondorf being found guilty of treason and executed (this is also why the sages in TP were not the same as the ones in OOT, I think). Meanwhile, in the other timeline Link stays as an adult and somehow that leads to the Windwaker alternate future. It's a pity that there's not as much information regarding what was the huge difference it made.

Also, I disagree with WW Link not being anyone special; that tradition of passing on the kokiri clothes had to come from somewhere.

 

[Patinator]

Well, who would WW Link come from? Not Zelda, because Tetra/WW Zelda fills that roll, and of course not Link. And it's the same Ganondorf, but even then... O_o

Know what, ignore the above. ^^;

 

[Reyairia]

Well, who would WW Link come from? Not Zelda, because Tetra/WW Zelda fills that roll, and of course not Link. And it's the same Ganondorf, but even then... O_o

Know what, ignore the above. ^^;

Why of course not Link?

 

[platnum]

Why of course not Link?

Because Link was removed from the timeline when zelda sent him back to his child hood at the end of OoT.

 

[Reyairia]

Because Link was removed from the timeline when zelda sent him back to his child hood at the end of OoT.

... Did you read my original post?

 

[platnum]

... Did you read my original post?

Yeah I did, it's wrong, Link did NOT stay in the WW timeline, he was sent back seven years, which meanes, the WW timeline was Link-less, this would also explain why hyrule had to be sunk to stop ganon(begining of WW), because there was no link to stop him.

 

[Reyairia]

Yeah I did, it's wrong, Link did NOT stay in the WW timeline, he was sent back seven years, which meanes, the WW timeline was Link-less, this would also explain why hyrule had to be sunk to stop ganon(begining of WW), because there was no link to stop him.

I told you, I think it was an official source where I got this from.
You miss one part though, in Windwaker people knew about a Hero, and it was a huge legend. If it never happened, how would have the legend started? Meanwhile in Twilight Princess, only a few people who would know knew anything about the previous hero, the one in Ocarina of Time. At least, that's how I remember it. :S

 

[T-major]

wait wait wait... I don't get it...

WW is an alternate timeline? that doesn't make any sense...

WW is set in the future, after the Gods drown the world because Ganon breaks out of his seal. people seem to think that this is because OoT Link (who is currently young because Zelda sent him back in time) is currently in that alternate world during Majora's Mask; and since he's there, and not in Hyrule, Ganon takes over... well thats wrong, because at the end of MM, Link gets sent BACK to Hyrule, and everything is fine. no flooding, no Ganon. everything is perfectly fine. how could the events of WW stem from OoT/MM if the ending of MM proves otherwise?

TP happens after OoT/MM, but before WW. there are still games that will come out that fit sometime in between OoT and WW, so the story at the beginning of Wind Waker could be referring to a completely different incarnation of Link, for all we know.

...at least thats how I see it... really, the Zelda time line is so fu*ked up that no one is ever going to figure this out. now you know why I think Nintendo should release a complete Zelda Time line guide/artbook...

 

[Reyairia]

wait wait wait... I don't get it...

WW is an alternate timeline? that doesn't make any sense...

Ah, you got it messed up...
Twilight Princess is set up 500 years in the future after the events of OOT/MM, and so is Windwaker (just without MM). They're alternate futures that came to be after stupid Link messing too much with the space-time continuum and breaking into the fifth dimension. </joke> In one version of the timeline, Link goes back to being a child and does the whole Majora's Mask fiasco and 500 years after that the events of Twilight Princess takes place. Meanwhile, in another alternate timeline, Link does not go back in time, but stays as an adult, stemming the whole Hero legend and eventually that leading to the events of Wind Waker. How is it that the hero did not come is something that hasn't been explained in canon (hence my complaint) and for now is purely left to the fanfiction writers.

And yes, the timeline is very confusing. I have heard a rumor Nintendo keeps the real one somewhere in their archives, but that's just myth for now.

There's a rumor rampant that Nintendo has the actual timeline somewhere, but it's just a myth.

 

[Yaya]

All I know is that Ocarina of Time is the first in the timeline. (A very ****ed up at that.)

 

[T-major]

Ah, you got it messed up...

<confusing stuff>

still don't get it...

in one time line, Link gets sent back in time, and in another, he doesn't?... what the hell!? that just can't happen out of nowhere! at the end of OoT, we CLEARLY see Link get sent back! he just can't NOT get sent back randomly!

you know what! I'm done with this! this is too confusing!



...


Fu*k!!

 

[antimatter]

there are two versions, is what she's saying. did you see the futurama with the reverse effects? like if you flip a coin heads in your normal universe, in the parallel universe it was tails.

 

[Reyairia]

All I know is that Ocarina of Time is the first in the timeline. (A very ****ed up at that.)

No, it's not. Minish cap occurs before.

 

[Yaya]

Oh.

So Before Ganondorf the evil dude was Vaati?

*Pukes in bucket*

 

[antimatter]

in one game. for all we know, there was another male garudo that another link fought in a story before the minish cap that nintendo has planned.