Strictly sheik needle AT

[ADHD]

I knew there was something you could do with needles on the edge of platforms/stage edges, and I found something.

When running off a platform edge (lets assume a battlefield platform) and you charge your needles you get a boost and you fall to the ground much faster than normal. You can also do this with charged needles and it pushes you while spitting out all of the needles. However, this is pretty useless.

But you can cancel the charge, wala! You get a boost of space, and fall faster to the ground and can work that into anything, such as an nair to dsmash really fast, grab, Usmash, IDK be creative, its anything.

Oh yeah btw, reverse needles with this trick gives the b-reversal twice the push. So if you run off to the right of the platform, quickly do a b-reversal, you fly under the platform left and note the distance.

How useful it is can only be determined by you, but I see this as giving sheik an advantage on platform stages.

 

[Tristan_win]

So...you run off a platform, charge needles, and gain a boost in speed while falling.

...Couldn't we just fast fall normally?

I don't know this seems pretty small but at this point I'll take anything

By the way Chrome since when did you stop asking questions and start making them?

Oh and if your looking for something charging needles, edge related try rolling toward the ledge and immediately begin charging you will fall off the side of the stage. It's really annoying and happens all the time to me but I guess it can have a use just like this.

I haven't tested it on platform though...so maybe it work on them too?

 

[Zankoku]

You gain a significant amount of horizontal momentum from doing this, which is a decent help to Sheik given her relatively poor horizontal aerial movement speed. I actually wanted to get this into my game, but since I play Wifi so much, I gave up on it since it was already hard enough to get the timing down normally.

 

[popsofctown]

So...you run off a platform, charge needles, and gain a boost in speed while falling.

...Couldn't we just fast fall normally?

I don't know this seems pretty small but at this point I'll take anything

By the way Chrome since when did you stop asking questions and start making them?

Oh and if your looking for something charging needles, edge related try rolling toward the ledge and immediately begin charging you will fall off the side of the stage. It's really annoying and happens all the time to me but I guess it can have a use just like this.

I haven't tested it on platform though...so maybe it work on them too?

I always get edgehogged after that happens. And then I look at my sparring buddy and think "there has to be an deep, inner circle of hell where...."

 

[imdavid]

SAY WUH?! CHROMEY ISN'T ASKING A QUESTION AND INSTEAD IS GIVING CRAZY INSIGHT? The young grasshopper has became the master. :] nice find chromey me will try later when i have time, i'm busy all these week with my mission training and i'm then taking off for china this wednesday and coming back the 15th, so sorry that i can't play any games with you^^ for the record, you'd beat me easy anyways ^^

 

[ADHD]

say Wuh?! Chromey Isn't Asking A Question And Instead Is Giving Crazy Insight? The Young Grasshopper Has Became The Master. :] Nice Find Chromey Me Will Try Later When I Have Time, I'm Busy All These Week With My Mission Training And I'm Then Taking Off For China This Wednesday And Coming Back The 15th, So Sorry That I Can't Play Any Games With You^^ For The Record, You'd Beat Me Easy Anyways ^^

Who goes from china from california!? FREAK!

Btw, fast falling is not as useful as this, I tested that too.

I found an interesting edgeguard on battlefield. On the left or right bottom platforms, run off to te direction of the stage's edge and use this to an nair, the nair goes flying diagonally right across the stage edge.

 

[Tristan_win]

...Chrome this sounds really odd to me now after your latest post, could you make a video show us what it looks like?

 

[ADHD]

Hey Ankokykinz, can you post a video of this? I don't have recording equipment...

 

[Zankoku]

I'll do it the next time I actually feel like turning my Wii on. I don't think I've done anything with it since Monday.

 

[JonBeBonanza]

Yeah i actually saved on my wii this "AT" and the vanish guard to show brawl sheik mains how it was done. But i have nothing to record with so blah. But i have found it semi-helpful, although it is extremely situational.

 

[ADHD]

Yeah i actually saved on my wii this "AT" and the vanish guard to show brawl sheik mains how it was done. But i have nothing to record with so blah. But i have found it semi-helpful, although it is extremely situational.

Yeah but the next time you're stuck on a platform and someone's directly underneath you, you know what to do.

 

[JonBeBonanza]

Yeah but the next time you're stuck on a platform and someone's directly underneath you, you know what to do.

lol? Yeah i know. But that's why it's situational. But anyways both the yoshi story on melee and battlefield where my counter picks when i was sheik and most of my same strategy still applies. But it's a good little trick to keep handy.

 

[Squidster]

If you shoot the needles a little bit earlier you shoot the needles forward then fall canceling the lag.
You don't get the forward boost chrome is talking about but it can be useful on places like frigate where you can lagless needle forward -> grab or something (just like needle canceled grab in melee!)

If you shoot it too late you'll just shoot it diagonally down like chromey said. But if you do it to late you can just cancel it and do an areal i guess

btw i'm back :o

 

[ADHD]

If you shoot the needles a little bit earlier you shoot the needles forward then fall canceling the lag.
You don't get the forward boost chrome is talking about but it can be useful on places like frigate where you can lagless needle forward -> grab or something (just like needle canceled grab in melee!)

If you shoot it too late you'll just shoot it diagonally down like chromey said. But if you do it to late you can just cancel it and do an areal i guess

btw i'm back :o

I noticed this too, but that is totally useless bc well, when would you use that?

 

[Squidster]

Idk... platforms on battlefield?

Frigate orpheon?! I've gotten it off only a few times but a lagless needle -> grab is freaken sweet.

 

[ADHD]

Idk... platforms on battlefield?

Frigate orpheon?! I've gotten it off only a few times but a lagless needle -> grab is freaken sweet.

Yeah you can do this on any platform, but lagless needle to grab? How would you do that unless someone is so close to you in the air?

If only samus could shoot a lagless missle in that time frame !!!

 

[Squidster]

On frigate when the platform is coming up and its just about level... but not. run off, needle, you fall and land right away, run forward and grab.

Alternatively you can fly to grab

 

[<π]

Cool ideas I should try these out.

 

[En.Ee.Oh]

this is considered AT? a lot of chars have this xD


i thought sheik's were already doing this :x