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Minato

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Been working on Dudley for fun today. Not very good with him yet.
SSF4's fun, but I kind of want to play some 3rd Strike again.

Trying to fix freezing issues with certain characters ATM lol
Just added you Gojira. And freezing issues?
My PS3 has freezing problems and it's a 60 GB. Freezes on all PS3 games, but only on the first 5 mins or so until I restart it. Then it works fine.
Never had any character specific freezing issues though.
 

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I just got my lol of the day, thanks to that video. It made it that much better with Cammy's second Ultra. XD
 

Gates

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A lot of those moves are armor breaking anyway and I think Abel's super is technically a grab.

Still funny as hell though lol.

Also, I'm thinking about picking up Rufus. I had a lot of fun playing rushdown with him tonight.
 

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Japan's preliminary tier list
S: Nobody
A+: Sagat, Rufus
A: Abel, Guile, Balrog, Dudley, Chun-Li, Zangief, Honda, Juri, Akuma, Rose, Bison
B+: Ken, Ryu, Dhalsim, Viper, Adon, Gouken, Ibuki, Sakura, Seth, T.Hawk
B: Vega, Cammy, Blanka, Cody, Makoto, Fuerte, Gen, Dee Jay
C+: Fei Long, Hakan, Guy
C: Dan

NOTE- Preliminary. They stressed that twice, so, don't freak out.
 

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At least El Fuerte isn't as low as before. Still, I'm amazed that the distance in tiers is so small.

One thing I want to know is how do they determine the letters in the first place?
 

Gates

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Just to confirm, those are the American names of the characters not the Japanese ones right?
 

CRASHiC

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Yep, the American translation. No way Gouken would be higher than Akuma hahahaha. That would be some serious wtf ****.
At least El Fuerte isn't as low as before. Still, I'm amazed that the distance in tiers is so small.

One thing I want to know is how do they determine the letters in the first place?
Right now this is all on feel. Once the matchups are determined, then its based on gaps in the matchup averages.

There's an updated version of this list that now has Abel amongst the top tier, but other wise has no changes.
 

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Right now this is all on feel. Once the matchups are determined, then its based on gaps in the matchup averages.

There's an updated version of this list that now has Abel amongst the top tier, but other wise has no changes.
I know it's preliminary. Still, it's nice to see Fuerte not near the bottom for a change. I don't feel like Sagat's that high though. High, but not near the top.
 

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A lot of those moves are armor breaking anyway and I think Abel's super is technically a grab.
abel's ultra 1 isn't a grab. u2 is though.

S: Nobody
A+: Sagat, Rufus
A: Abel, Guile, Balrog, Dudley, Chun-Li, Zangief, Honda, Juri, Akuma, Rose, Bison
B+: Ken, Ryu, Dhalsim, Viper, Adon, Gouken, Ibuki, Sakura, Seth, T.Hawk
B: Vega, Cammy, Blanka, Cody, Makoto, Fuerte, Gen, Dee Jay
C+: Fei Long, Hakan, Guy
C: Dan
that actually looks really good. my only problems are that there should be a- and b- tiers and zangief isn't that high. but other than that i imagine the first few tiers lists to look something like that.
 

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I honestly don't think Guile should be that high. The same goes for Honda. I think Cody should be higher than where he is. Ryu should be higher since I don't think he got nerfed that bad. I still consider him top 5 in the game. Dudley should be place lower, IMO. His footsies isn't that great, his DP isn't the best, and he has problems getting in on some characters I think.

In my opinion, I think Akuma should be placed higher if those are listed by order. Bison should be in the upper half of A tier from what I've seen after facing him and using him. And Ibuki should be somewhere in A tier.

Of course, this all just my opinion. I really don't agree with how the tier is at the moment, but then again, I haven't researched each and every matchup of all the characters obviously.

And why is Guy that low? Seems B tier material to me. Maybe even B+.
 

Gates

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abel's ultra 1 isn't a grab. u2 is though.
I know that, but I was talking about his SUPER.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6zbfiVcbdw
This move.

I honestly don't think Guile should be that high. The same goes for Honda. I think Cody should be higher than where he is. Ryu should be higher since I don't think he got nerfed that bad. I still consider him top 5 in the game. Dudley should be place lower, IMO. His footsies isn't that great, his DP isn't the best, and he has problems getting in on some characters I think.
I agree with everything here. As far a Guile goes, obvious Daigo meatriding is obvious. I am also of the belief that T. Hawk is better than Gief since he can stay in better.
 

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No, Abel's super is like Third Mid or Third Low in Change of Direction, it can be blocked.


Does Hakan's placement consider him as is or when he is oiled up? If it's as is, sure, but if it's when he's oiled up, should be higher imo.
 

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i think that would be his average between not oiled up and being oiled up that land him in that spot.

S: Nobody
A+: Sagat, Rufus
A: Abel, Guile, Balrog, Dudley, Chun-Li, Zangief, Honda, Juri, Akuma, Rose, Bison
B+: Ken, Ryu, Dhalsim, Viper, Adon, Gouken, Ibuki, Sakura, Seth, T.Hawk
B: Vega, Cammy, Blanka, Cody, Makoto, Fuerte, Gen, Dee Jay
C+: Fei Long, Hakan, Guy
C: Dan

lolomg ryu that is too funny, i bet he fell that much because there was a lack of hype with this guy. I personally think this tier list is generated mainly off of the new ultras and hype a character has gotten...

Daigo uses Guile in that one event some weeks ago, everyone starts using him. Sonic Hurricane is beast, and so are his sonic booms now...

What was so great about rose this time around that brought more popularity to her than Bison?
 

Lovely

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♣ Makoto, why did so many so called fans quit you so fast and main someone else within a few weeks? ;_; ♥
 

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Given that Sagat is on the top of that list, I doubt it has anything to do with hype or with new ultras.
Not completely, but I think that the hype for that character just as the game released plays about 40% into determining that list.

Because she sucks?
I would have rather capcom add someone else.

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My stick is complete!
After working frustratingly with my anal dad, and being ever so confused with wiring the buttons, the thing is finally complete. will post pics later, can't do jack so far (obvious), but I can at least get the 2nd hit of the rsf more easily than using the pad. I ripped the pcb off an old generic ps1 controller, was hoping this would become a multi-console to the ps3, wii and ps1. The ps-to-gc adaptor won't recognize this controller so I can't play the homebrew NES emu and play pac man or galaga or something of the like.
 

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A friend of mine was pretty disappointed that Elena got left out. I would have rather seen her than Adon.
 

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Even with "averaging" Hakan should be higher

A friend of mine was pretty disappointed that Elena got left out. I would have rather seen her than Adon.

ANYONE other than Adon, even Rolento...

I was hoping that the SF III girls were first considered before Dudley.
 

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I think Adon is alright, though I don't even use him, but I bet elena would be more interesting to have even though I never seen her in action.

Makoto counting to 10 = video made of win.
 

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Adon, Yang, and Gen are pretty much the only SF characters that I actually dislike.


Elena would have been great in Super IV, but I think Hugo would not have been too good. Better than he was in 3rd Strike, but not 2nd Impact.
 

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I'm so fed up with his jumpy knifey caney crane bull****, I was done with that **** back in Alpha 2.

If he was in he'd probably be A tier
 

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Rolento was annoying. He reminds me of this Vega and Ibuki mix for playstyle.
No wonder I liked using him. lol

I was never a fan of Adon, but then again, I wasn't really into Alpha for some odd reason.
I still liked playing it though, but my mind is fuzzy on the Alpha series besides 3 and it's V-ism.
 

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Adon is amazing, you guys are crazy. He's the closest thing Street Fighter has to an Arksys character in terms of gameplay. His options are huge, his pokes are annoying, and his combos are deadily and diverse. His personality is perfect, smug and astoundingly annoying to the opposing player.
 

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Adon is amazing, you guys are crazy. He's the closest thing Street Fighter has to an Arksys character in terms of gameplay. His options are huge, his pokes are annoying, and his combos are deadily and diverse. His personality is perfect, smug and astoundingly annoying to the opposing player.
That's why I'm playing Juri, though I'm not sure if all those things are true for her. :bee:
 

kr3wman

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yup. ryu's super is pretty cool.

I'm pretty sure you can even do lp.DP and link the super after it.
 
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