Stage Discussion

[Starcutter]

I'd like to see a viridian forest stage! Cause every Pokemon stage has a forest like that.

 

[HylianHeroBigBoss]

I'd like to see a viridian forest stage! Cause every Pokemon stage has a forest like that.

True

I always thought mt moon or another location could work as well. Enough with the stadiums, just give us the past one from brawl and give us a new location, possibly N's castle.

 

[Sonicguy726]

Poketopia for lucario's stage

 

[HylianHeroBigBoss]

Hmm if we were to get any neon area, id rather it be the neon city (i think thats the name) from wario land shake it

It would be a missed opportunity to not have a wario themed casino stage involving money and greed.

with this theme of course

 

[Starcutter]

Inb4 bowser land

 

[Sonicguy726]

Hmm if we were to get any neon area, id rather it be the neon city (i think thats the name) from wario land shake it

It would be a missed opportunity to not have a wario themed casino stage involving money and greed.

with this theme of course

Well this is mainly warioware so I doubt they'd give us a stage from wario land when they basically have to make one for game & wario

 

[HylianHeroBigBoss]

Well this is mainly warioware so I doubt they'd give us a stage from wario land when they basically have to make one for game & wario

If he intends to represent games that have been released since brawl, wario land is just as fair game as warioware.

 

[Knight Dude]

If we get any stages based on classic games, I would want Gangplank Galleon, or Bramble Blast as DK stages. For Zelda, I think that the Dark World from a Link to the Past would be sick.

 

[Sonicguy726]

If we get any stages based on classic games, I would want Gangplank Galleon, or Bramble Blast as DK stages. For Zelda, I think that the Dark World from a Link to the Past would be sick.

I guess lorule would work just as well and I would like to see the tropicla freeze ship covered in snow and stuff, it would look incredible

 

[Superyoshiom]

I guess lorule would work just as well and I would like to see the tropicla freeze ship covered in snow and stuff, it would look incredible

Gotta say, when I first saw that ship in TF's opening, I thought of K. Rool and his own ship.

 

[Sonicguy726]

Gotta say, when I first saw that ship in TF's opening, I thought of K. Rool and his own ship.

Yeah I thought that too, I wonder if we're ever gonna see him again. Either way this would essentially be gangplank galleon with snow

 

[Lazurwolf]

Poketopia for lucario's stage

 

[8-peacock-8]

AN AWESOME IDEA FROM MIIVERSE?!

 

[D-idara]

AN AWESOME IDEA FROM MIIVERSE?!

OH GOD, LET'S MAKE A KICKSTARTER PAGE TO FUND THAT STAGE!

 

[ryuu seika]

Totally needs to happen. Especially if we can have characters pop out of the wall upon star KO.

 

[8-peacock-8]

Obligatory stage that makes the characters 2D.

 

[LiteralGrill]

AN AWESOME IDEA FROM MIIVERSE?!

It would be horrible to implement/program and such, but man oh man I admit I'd love it to death...

 

[D-idara]

It would be horrible to implement/program and such, but man oh man I admit I'd love it to death...

I dont think it'd be that bad, if they can make a DK silhouette level then they can make this, at least they're not dealing with 3D models.

 

[Frostwraith]

I dont think it'd be that bad, if they can make a DK silhouette level then they can make this, at least they're not dealing with 3D models.

Indeed, it is much, much more complicated than what you're thinking. A DK silhouette level only required a texture change on the models.

On a stage like that, they'd have to create sprites (or 2D models) for every character and every aspect of the game. It would also be necessary to make new designs for every character, considering the art style is completely different. It would consume a hell lot of development time and, in the end, possibly not worth the effort.

Just because they wouldn't use 3D models, it doesn't mean it would be less complicated. 2D animation can actually be harder than CGI 3D animation.

 

[ryuu seika]

The 3Ds has bold outlines already. If one were to turn those white and remove all or most of the shading, it would be a decent start.
Next, get rid of any transparency (like on Kirby's hammer effect) and have the characters act as a colour imbuing layer (might be difficult while still using 3D models).

This would be far from perfect but it could work and it would be an awful lot simpler than spriting every character.

In addition, I would like to see an alteration to the way the metal cap works on this stage. Instead of turning the character metallic, I would have it turn the wall behind them metallic, effectively giving the character an alternate texture but keeping its colour.

 

[Kamiko]

The 3Ds has bold outlines already. If one were to turn those white and remove all or most of the shading, it would be a decent start.
Next, get rid of any transparency (like on Kirby's hammer effect) and have the characters act as a colour imbuing layer (might be difficult while still using 3D models).

This would be far from perfect but it could work and it would be an awful lot simpler than spriting every character.

In addition, I would like to see an alteration to the way the metal cap works on this stage. Instead of turning the character metallic, I would have it turn the wall behind them metallic, effectively giving the character an alternate texture but keeping its colour.

While that would be an easy way to make the characters 2D, it wouldn't change their style like that picture shows. I'd be ok with that, but I'm sure plenty of people would be at least a little disappointed by it.

 

[Louie G.]

I came up with a Link Between Worlds stage a while back that worked similarly.
I imagined it just being the character models 2-D and somewhat transparent so that it looked like they were painted on or something.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

I'd still kinda like to see an Armdas' Cavern stage....poison spouts, Fog of War, and thieves running around stealing items. 'twould be hilarious.

 

[fogbadge]

I'd still kinda like to see an Armdas' Cavern stage....poison spouts, Fog of War, and thieves running around stealing items. 'twould be hilarious.

whats that from?

 

[Sonicguy726]

whats that from?

Apparently it's from FE

Speaking of that if we want a HD, FE stage Ike has to come back since radiant dawn was the most recent console game and having a stage from that without Ike would be really weird and a little dickish

 

[Robert of Normandy]

whats that from?

FE6 and FE7.

 

[ryuu seika]

I came up with a Link Between Worlds stage a while back that worked similarly.
I imagined it just being the character models 2-D and somewhat transparent so that it looked like they were painted on or something.

A colour layer (don't remember what photoshop calls it) would be vastly superior to transparency since it would give the characters the full texture of the bricks.

 

[Superyoshiom]

Poketopia for lucario's stage

I was thinking that this could be Pokemon Stadium 3.

 

[Sonicguy726]

I was thinking that this could be Pokemon Stadium 3.

I guess but since it's from gen 4 I was thinking it could be Lucario's home stage

 

[andimidna]

AN AWESOME IDEA FROM MIIVERSE?!

Having this stage would make me want a moving level of Shadow Play Alley too!

But what I really want is Twilight Palace:

Returning Stages:

 

[Superyoshiom]

I guess but since it's from gen 4 I was thinking it could be Lucario's home stage

I always thought that Lucario's home was probably more on the lines of Mt. Coronet than something flashy like a stadium from Battle Revolution. Doesn't mean I'd love to see this stage.

 

[HylianHeroBigBoss]

Having this stage would make me want a moving level of Shadow Play Alley too!

But what I really want is Twilight Palace:

Returning Stages:

I think the DKCR silhouette stage would be better, not only in aesthetics but better in in function as well since they could have one color on each character highlighted so they wouldnt get lost among each other.

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I agree with your returning stages, nice choices. But i highly doubt TP will get another brand new stage represented this time around, especially with as many zelda stages as we have currently. Although i that one is more personal hope than prediction so i guess i cant fault that.

 

[Sonicguy726]

I think the DKCR silhouette stage would be better, not only in aesthetics but better in in function as well since they could have one color on each character highlighted so they wouldnt get lost among each other.

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I agree with your returning stages, nice choices. But i highly doubt TP will get another brand new stage represented this time around, especially with as many zelda stages as we have currently. Although i that one is more personal hope than prediction so i guess i cant fault that.

Well they are still using the TP designs so they may give us a new TP stage and I really like the idea of highlighting one colour, that would look really cool

 

[HylianHeroBigBoss]

Well they are still using the TP designs so they may give us a new TP stage and I really like the idea of highlighting one colour, that would look really cool

I still dont think they will do that, TP got its turn during brawl, the only thing that carries over is the design to keep them all cohesive with each other. Most of what will be represented is what came between brawl and now, and thats already very well evident in the stages weve gotten so far.

 

[Krynxe]

With these ideas of silhouette and Link Between World themed-stages, this would require the visuals for the characters themselves to be changed as well. I wonder how the competitive scene for this game would take that, especially given some of the negativity towards custom brawl textures at tournaments. But I guess that only comes down to how viable the stage would be otherwise.

Regardless, I love both of the ideas, especially the Link Between Worlds one. Could be similar to the flat zone levels, except with new, fun textures to see all the characters/moves represented in this type of world.

 

[Sonicguy726]

With these ideas of silhouette and Link Between World themed-stages, this would require the visuals for the characters themselves to be changed as well. I wonder how the competitive scene for this game would take that, especially given some of the negativity towards custom brawl textures at tournaments. But I guess that only comes down to how viable the stage would be otherwise.

Regardless, I love both of the ideas, especially the Link Between Worlds one. Could be similar to the flat zone levels, except with new, fun textures to see all the characters/moves represented in this type of world.

they could just not use it in competitive like they do half the fun and unique stages in brawl

 

[Krynxe]

While many of the banned stages might be "fun", they are not used competitively for completely valid reasons. I'm just saying that if these stages would be otherwise viable, how people would feel towards the re-skinning and such. Your comment is more out of spite of the current brawl ruleset, where I'm more curious about how people feel about the aesthetics in future stages.

I have similar curiosities about the Super Mario Galaxy stage. I foresee a lot of mixed feelings and debates

 

[Louie G.]

Well, the Super Mario Galaxy stage is pretty straightforward overall, but the problems that it poses are it's obvious gravity mechanic (which personally I don't think will be TOO much of an issue) and the fact that it does look pretty big, about Pyrosphere size.
I have a feeling that the Galaxy stage will be competition viable though.

 

[ryuu seika]

Reskinning characters and changing visuals is completely different from actual functional changes.
Assuming the stages had no major faults and were legal, I would have no issue playing on them. Infact, I would see it as an added interest to what can otherwise become a stale set of allowed stages.

 

[D-idara]

With these ideas of silhouette and Link Between World themed-stages, this would require the visuals for the characters themselves to be changed as well. I wonder how the competitive scene for this game would take that, especially given some of the negativity towards custom brawl textures at tournaments. But I guess that only comes down to how viable the stage would be otherwise.

Regardless, I love both of the ideas, especially the Link Between Worlds one. Could be similar to the flat zone levels, except with new, fun textures to see all the characters/moves represented in this type of world.

I really couldn't care less about the silhouette stage being 'fair' as long as it's 'awesome'.