Stage Counterpicking Change Proposal

[Raziek]

I say more than my first suggestion: Let the BBR create more legal stages in the Stage creator to be accepted at tournaments as legal stages. I have no doubt in my mind that there are stages than can be created that aren't as stupid as some of the tournament legal stages we have now and to prove that: we could probably make a Green greens with no apples, wind, or blocks.

I'm pretty sure OS does this in the Midwest, but I'm not 100% sure.

To be honest, this is one of the better ideas I've seen, but it still doesn't address the whole "weight in game 1" problem. It's a good solution to MK dominating on many of our legal stages, but there's still the problem.

 

[Tommy_G]

I'm pretty sure OS does this in the Midwest, but I'm not 100% sure.

To be honest, this is one of the better ideas I've seen, but it still doesn't address the whole "weight in game 1" problem. It's a good solution to MK dominating on many of our legal stages, but there's still the problem.

Id rather have MK get Battlefield, Final Destination, and Smashville than him getting Brinstar, Rainbow Cruise, and Green Greens.

The weight in game 1 problem is because all of the other stages are too hard for the person getting counterpicked on. With more neutral-like stages, there wouldn't be this problem.

 

[Raziek]

Id rather have MK get Battlefield, Final Destination, and Smashville than him getting Brinstar, Rainbow Cruise, and Green Greens.

The weight in game 1 problem is because all of the other stages are too hard for the person getting counterpicked on. With more neutral-like stages, there wouldn't be this problem.

Well, even if there ARE more neutral stages, Game 1 still has significantly more weight, since you get to counterpick your preferred neutral for Game 3.

 

[ぱみゅ]

A 1-minute 1-stock preliminar game that do NOT count for the match, in order to get a loser to CP first, and, if match goes to last game, it would be decided in a neutral stage....

Thoughs?

 

[Tommy_G]

A 1-minute 1-stock preliminar game that do NOT count for the match, in order to get a loser to CP first, and, if match goes to last game, it would be decided in a neutral stage....

Thoughs?

Let's make long tournaments even longer?

I like the creativity, but that's not going to settle well with TOs and players who don't want to be at tournaments until 3 am.

Well, even if there ARE more neutral stages, Game 1 still has significantly more weight, since you get to counterpick your preferred neutral for Game 3.

If it isn't a stage that really debilitates both players, then it's a reward worth getting for the one who wins Game 1.
Winning Game 1 shouldn't be an auto-win for the set, but it should still put pressure on the other player knowing they have to win 2 games in a row to beat them.

 

[salaboB]

A 1-minute 1-stock preliminar game that do NOT count for the match, in order to get a loser to CP first, and, if match goes to last game, it would be decided in a neutral stage....

Thoughs?

Wouldn't each player try to throw the match so they get to cp?

Also, how is this functionally different than what's currently in place, just getting the counterpicks out of the way first?

 

[ぱみゅ]

Wouldn't each player try to throw the match so they get to cp?

Also, how is this functionally different than what's currently in place, just getting the counterpicks out of the way first?

Thinking that way, even with rulings about SDing, people would do MAJOR sandbagging (more than usual) and really dumb actions....
I can't believe people really can act in that ******** way... yet, they do...


EDIT: functionally, it's like "letting the fairness for the last"

 

[6Mizu]

So how many people are actually considering this?

 

[Tommy_G]

I think we should do away with the stupid stages and make more widely accepted legal ones.

Edit: I'm going to go make some legal-like stages and post pictures. We'll take a vote on which stages are the best out of my examples and the legal counterpicks. Others post legal style stages if you have them.

Edit edit: I'll do it tomorrow. I feel too lazy today.

 

[LuigiKing]

How I think it should work is

Game 1: Higher seed counterpicks
Game 2: Lower seed counterpicks
Game 3: Neutral via stage strike

But most people are going to think this idea is stupid/gay

 

[Raziek]

How I think it should work is

Game 1: Higher seed counterpicks
Game 2: Lower seed counterpicks
Game 3: Neutral via stage strike

But most people are going to think this idea is stupid/gay

This still changes nothing other than moving the weight to Game 3 instead of Game 1, and doesn't work at all with unseeded entrants. -_-