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MasterOfKnees

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This "leak" pretty much sums up what it'd take for me to not want to buy the game: Cut two of my mains, two otherwise great characters, and instead include a bunch of bad newcomers in their place. Good thing cutting Meta Knight is an instant leak-killer.
Not to mention Samurai Goroh AND Takamaru. Two samurai characters?
 

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http://3dsforums.com/showthread.php?p=1078013#post1078013

Weird how people who make these end up putting the newcomers in order of reveal, instead of either mixing them up or giving us a full roster. Using only what they give us to debunk the leak, do you guys thinks its an option to call it fake if the next newcomer isnt the one after little mac? this goes for all leaks like the one linked above
 

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Weird how people who make these end up putting the newcomers in order of reveal, instead of either mixing them up or giving us a full roster. Using only what they give us to debunk the leak, do you guys thinks its an option to call it fake if the next newcomer isnt the one after little mac? this goes for all leaks like the one linked above
What does the leak say?
 

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What does the leak say?
"Characters: Everyone in Brawl except Pokemon Trainer, Metaknight, Sheik, and Ike return. Newcomers are: Wii Fit Trainer, Mega Man, Villager, Rosalina, Little Mac, Chrom, Palutena, Dixie Kong, Dark Samus, Mii, Samurai Goroh, Takamaru, Dillon, Demise, an Pacman. "

here it is, my main point is the newcomer list is in the same order as they were revealed up to little mac, just says fake to me if chrom is not revealed next and palutena after and so on, otherwise there should be no reason to list in this manner. it would either be aphabetical or as appears on the full roster if that makes sense
 

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For rumors involving what characters final smashes are we might not be waiting much longer if there fake or not

Potd is the smash ball so hints Potd's showing off characters final smashes
 

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At some point in the future yes, but I wouldn't count on it happening immediately.
 

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http://3dsforums.com/showthread.php?p=1078013#post1078013

Weird how people who make these end up putting the newcomers in order of reveal, instead of either mixing them up or giving us a full roster. Using only what they give us to debunk the leak, do you guys thinks its an option to call it fake if the next newcomer isnt the one after little mac? this goes for all leaks like the one linked above
Sheik not returning? No Krystal? No Meta Knight? This leak is absolute (CENSORED)!
 

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Cutting MetaKnight, Sheik, etc, is a pretty good sign that rumor is horribly fake. Plus, those newcomers.

So, that Sound Leak, was it ever confirmed fake? I've been hearing both. :/
 

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Meta Knight's cut?
Well, that's new.

Ridiculous, but new.
The one who made the leak probably thougth that the only way to balance the game was to remove MetaKnight, since a lot of people (especially Miiverse) seems to ignore the possibility of re-balancing characters, haha.
 

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Yeah, because cutting Metaknight, a completely unique character, is unheard of lmao. Sounds a lot like the Pre-brawl speculation when people were discussing mewtwo lol
 

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Yeah, because cutting Metaknight, a completely unique character, is unheard of lmao. Sounds a lot like the Pre-brawl speculation when people were discussing mewtwo lol
Mewtwo and Metaknight getting cut are two completely different situations. Even though they are both unique characters Pokemon has soooo many other notable characters. The Kirby series doesn't. Exchanging a Pokemon with another makes sense with time constraints. Even though Mewtwo and Lucario are different. With cutting Metaknight would they replace him with and leave Kirby with 2 reps? I don't think so.

You probably don't think the leak is true. I'm not trying to like, attack what you said. Just saying there two different situations.
 
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Yeah, because cutting Metaknight, a completely unique character, is unheard of lmao. Sounds a lot like the Pre-brawl speculation when people were discussing mewtwo lol
It's not because of the fact that he's unique, it's the fact that Meta Knight is such an important character. In 2008 Mewtwo wasn't, he had lost his status as the most powerful Pokémon and was no more important than other big shots who were past their time, like Ho-Oh, Lugia, Rayquaza, etc. Meta Knight on the other hand is guaranteed to be an important character for as long as Kirby exists. I can almost guarantee that they'd sooner cut some of the confirmed characters like Lucario and Toon Link, and many unconfirmed characters like Wolf and Lucas. Not to mention that Meta Knight is a crazy popular character, where as Mewtwo was an extremely unpopular character in Melee.
 
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So, that Sound Leak, was it ever confirmed fake? I've been hearing both. :/
It's been deemed a fake due to the "Diddy will be the next character revealed" tidbit.

In 2008 Mewtwo wasn't, he had lost his status as the most powerful Pokémon and was no more important than Ho-Oh, Lugia, Rayquaza, etc.
Whereas now in 2014 Mewtwo's gained a new lease on life with its two Mega Evolutions and a second focus movie, and now everyone's expecting its return.
 
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Whereas now in 2014 Mewtwo's gained a new lease on life with its two Mega Evolutions and a second focus movie, and now everyone's expecting its return.
Yeah. I wasn't trying to talk down to Mewtwo, since he's obviously hot stuff now, but I was simply pointing out why the comparison didn't work.
 

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Yeah, I'm gonna doubt it due to it saying Meta Knight's being cut. Meta Knight ain't going nowhere.
 

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Normally I just discard text leaks because anyone can just make them, now I'm just discarding them altogether because of the sheer number of them appearing almost daily now.
 

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Mewtwo and Metaknight getting cut are two completely different situations. Even though they are both unique characters Pokemon has soooo many other notable characters. The Kirby series doesn't. Exchanging a Pokemon with another makes sense with time constraints. Even though Mewtwo and Lucario are different. With cutting Metaknight would they replace him with and leave Kirby with 2 reps? I don't think so.

You probably don't think the leak is true. I'm not trying to like, attack what you said. Just saying there two different situations.
It doesn't have to do with the leak, I haven't even paid much attention to it tbh lol. My point is that people can no longer use the argument that unique characters won't be cut. it's happened before. Also, recency, or his relevance to the series, doesn't matter here. Mewtwo was not cut because of his relevance or recency to the series, nor was he replaced by lucario. it all came down to time. heck, mewtwo was planned for brawl. I guess what i'm saying is, it's in the realm of possibility. it's not so completely off the wall that it can't happen. I don't think he'll be cut, but it is certainly possible.
 

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It is a little tiring in general. The amount of leaks and the variation between them make nearly any real anaylsis of the leaks extremely difficult if not impossible. Though not many people believed the accurate Brawl leak until after the game was released in Japan. The situation will probably be no different here in the end.
 

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Meta Knight will not be cut, that's absurd. He's an essential character from the Kirby franchise, a franchise without a lot of characters that are capable of being a fighter. And lowering the Kirby series to 2 reps while increasing F-Zero to 2 reps and keeping Star Fox at 3 reps would be a slap in the face. Kirby is a franchise that is still going...

It's not fake because I hate it, it's just not plausible to me.
 

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Doesn't mean you can stop believing in text leaks, few leaks may have value if you altogether ignore them.
The problem is at this point there is very few significates in the leaks in and of themselves, until more is revealed that allows us to isolated it down to more specific leaks that can be anaylized. Right now when you had 4-8 differnet sources appearing per day it hard to tell one from the other. We would probably need to know at least another 2-3 newcomers to be able to kill a good number of these leaks or even begin to narrow down what is likely and what is not.
 

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The problem is at this point there is very few significates in the leaks in and of themselves, until more is revealed that allows us to isolated it down to more specific leaks that can be anaylized. Right now when you had 4-8 differnet sources appearing per day it hard to tell one from the other. We would probably need to know at least another 2-3 newcomers to be able to kill a good number of these leaks or even begin to narrow down what is likely and what is not.
The problem is that even when a good number of leaks are killed, there will always be more to follow after them. In fact it'll get worse as we move closer and closer to launch.

Like I've said before, leaks don't truely die...
 

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The problem is that even when a good number of leaks are killed, there will always be more to follow after them. In fact it'll get worse as we move closer and closer to launch.

Like I've said before, leaks don't truely die...
Maybe so but we would definitely have more to review as to right now we basically have leaks full of random character assortments that we have no method to prove or disprove. As well as additional assist trophies and deconfirmations will probably increase get closer as well.
 

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Look at the leak

Meta knight cut or that's a terrible attempt besides dark samus over Ridley and mewtwos not in there either

Meta knight cut is a really really good sign of fake leak
 

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I love sheik, Metaknight ruined brawl, could care less about Krystal.
i don't think MK ruined brawl lol, if you look at brawl from a non-competitive point of view, a casual player could use a bottom tier character and beat and other character, as for competitve play i don't believe if MK was not OP brawl would have been better than Melee. there are too many other factors as to why brawl was not up to par with Melee, anyways just my opinion

just to stay on topic: how many leaks have reveals this month, i feel like alot had yoshi but i think he may end up being revealed in the summer now
 
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The more leaks I see with Dixie and without Rool, I want to cry.


...Mainly because that's probably going to happen GOD DAMN IT NINTENDO NOTICE THE POTENTIALLY AMAZING MOVE-SET KING K ROOL HAS OVER AN APE WITH HAIR, PLEASE.
 

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I'm more inclined to believe the vaguer "leaks" over the ones that divulge what is allegedly the final complete roster. It seems highly unlikely that someone not of the core development staff would know exactly which characters are going to be in the game. The ones that sound more like hearsay, or only claim to know a few bits of information, are more believable.

The more leaks I see with Pac-Man and without Lip, I want to cry.

...Mainly because that's probably going to happen GOD DAMN IT NINTENDO NOTICE THE POTENTIALLY AMAZING MOVE-SET LIP HAS OVER A YELLOW BALL WITH ARMS AND LEGS, PLEASE.
 
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