Spotdodge -> Grab

[A2ZOMG]

Maybe it's just me, but I almost never see this on the videos I watch on youtube. Spotdodge grab has MANY MANY advantages over spotdodge D-smash.

Most people try to shield whenever ROB spotdodges (if they don't have a reliable lingering hitbox or tactic for beating spotdodges anyway). D-smashing at this point would be stupid except for a 1 frame discrepancy between the reliability of landing that as opposed to grab (D-smash is frame 4, and while grab is frame 6, it takes one frame to shield, so technically D-smash only has like 1 frame advantage over grab on defenses, or just 2 frames if you need to do a turnaround grab)

People also tend to DI out of the D-smash in high level play, making it less reliable and more risky. Grabbing basically has the same reach as D-smash. Getting a grab guarantees you 10% and possibly a few pummels, which basically does just as much as the max damage of D-smash, only it's better once move decay is factored in. Not to mention ROB's throws actually have something that resembles followups, and at high percents, the potential to kill.

If I recall correctly, if by chance your opponent tries to spotdodge, Grab also has less duration, so you're more likely to be able to do stuff out of grab if you whiff.

My experience grabbing instead of D-smashing has overall been positive. If you don't do this, do it now. It's very good, and I'm pretty sure it's overall more useful than D-smashing.

 

[CT Chia]

SD > Fair is also really nice

 

[A2ZOMG]

I don't like spotdodge F-air because technically that comes out on frame 12 as I recall (factoring jump startup). You might as well F-smash out of spotdodge if they can be hit by F-air.

 

[TheMike]

I like SD>Jab the same way i like SD>Grab or Dsmash.

 

[Sudai]

I guess I should actually get some videos of me online. Every time anyone says "I never see good ROBs do <stuff>! Why not?" I shake my head because I've been doing it. :/

 

[Mister Eric]

SD > side taunt.

 

[Deadweight]

SD > side taunt.

Ive done this :o

 

[koing]

i prefer the lagless fast fall airdodge dsmash
but yeah ive never seen sd=> grab

 

[GwJ]

Bringing up the Dsmash again, it doesn't matter if they DI it, just Dsmash again.

 

[Sudai]

I prefer FSmash or DTilt when people SDI out. DTilt sets up a better position and FSmash gets them off stage, generally. FSmash is riskier though since it has a bit more lag.

 

[GwJ]

True, the point was that you can still react before they can if they decide to SDI it.

 

[koing]

sd > ftilt anyone
comes out in what two frames and can knock them off the stage and set up for tilt chains at low %

 

[Dragoomba]

I prefer SD - Dtilt in all honesty. Although can't you be shieldgrabbed out of it easily?

 

[GwJ]

koing, I'm pretty sure ftilt is 9 frames. Dtilt/Dsmash/grab are all faster and better options.

 

[koing]

koing, I'm pretty sure ftilt is 9 frames. Dtilt/Dsmash/grab are all faster and better options.

oh my bad i have a very vuage understanding of the frames n such
i still use it though

 

[CJTHeroofTime]

sd > ftilt anyone
comes out in what two frames and can knock them off the stage and set up for tilt chains at low %

F-tilt is better when you're far enough to tip your opponent with, if you're spot-dodging, you probably shouldn't be using f-tilt.

 

[NaZe]

I started to do SD -> Grab, since September. I usually do too, reverse GT -> Pivot Grab, at minor %. Sorry, my english isn't that good, but i hope you understand me.

 

[Nova9000]

I use SD-> jab then follow with whatever (Fsmash, grab, jab again, Dtilt).

But SD-> grab is sexy as well.

 

[TheMike]

I use SD-> jab then follow with whatever (Fsmash, grab, jab again, Dtilt).

Do u mean the Jab1(Jab's first hit), right? Jab is sexy <3