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[Golden Sun]

Perhaps.

You do considering you used a Brachydios and Rajang avatar
No one would use 2 pics of the same thing in a game they don't know imo

 

[BZero]

So who was nerfed in the patch? Anybody know?

 

[BugCatcherWill]

So who was nerfed in the patch? Anybody know?

Greninja

 

[Schnee117]

So who was nerfed in the patch? Anybody know?

Greninja
Shulk got some slight nerfs.
Diddy got nerfed big time.
Shiek got a few nerfs.

 

[Oblivion129]

I've got the jab-> grab thing down already. Mewtwo is perfect for me.

Edit:
Someone needs to play me...like, now.

Did you get it as a combo or a set up?
Also, anything interesting to do if you use Confusion on an opponent? (They can attack before they land) It looks like you can't shield grab, so I'd go for shield > Dtilt or something.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Mewtwo is fun. "Mewtwo's ****" ~friend after his first Mewtwo session

 

[Golden Sun]

So who was nerfed in the patch? Anybody know?

MK should've gotten a range buff tbh
he's hard to use against ganondorf and mewtwo players

 

[BZero]

Greninja
Shulk got some slight nerfs.
Diddy got nerfed big time.
Shiek got a few nerfs.

Huh, no wonder I beat a Diddy player online pretty easily. Either that or they just weren't that good with Diddy.

 

[DrRiceBoy]

Yeah, tbh I can't see Mewtwo being higher than mid tier. He really does have some pretty big flaws imo...

On the other hand, he's fun as heck. I don't mind him being bad at all because he's fun to use and that's what matters. Definitely going to main him.

 

[CelestialMarauder~]

Mewtwo's fine. I think his kit works well. He's just not going to be top or even high tier. Somewhere in middle range. Stuff like shiek won't let him breathe.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

The lack of custom specials is a troubling dilemma, as Confusion and Disable still feel pretty useless.

 

[ミスティック Speed]

Mewtwo's fine. I think his kit works well. He's just not going to be top or even high tier. Somewhere in middle range. Stuff like shiek won't let him breathe.

I'm honestly glad he isn't OP or anything like that.
Save him for the ones who are truly dedicated to him <3

 

[murdokdracul]

So did you guys win or lose your first online match as Mewtwo? Just curious.

I went into For Fun to check my internet connection before I tried For Glory. It was pretty laggy, but my first game was a Team match against Lucario and...someone. I was mainly focusing on Lucario because MORTAL ENEMIES. It went to Sudden Death and I was the last Mon standing. ^_^

The lack of custom specials is a troubling dilemma, as Confusion and Disable still feel pretty useless.

I'm getting a LOT of fun out of Confusion, using it to gain momentum mid-air, reflecting Aura Sphere projectiles, spinning folk around into tail combos and smash attacks... Disable seems to stun for longer than it did in Melee, but I'm not sure about that.

 

[ilikcereal101]

What's with confusion my friend always jumps out of it is there anyway I could take advantage of that?

 

[DrRiceBoy]

My first online match was with my friend but I lost because I was too distracted by the glory of Mewtwo.

My first for glory match I lost because I was too distracted by the glory of Mewtwo.

 

[johab001]

I haven't got mewtwo yet. But i have foght against him in for glory as ness and im just saying, Ness is an exellent counter against Mewtwo. I comboed mewtwo with up-air easly. And the blue absorb barrier is deadly against shadow ball. But yeah it might just be because of mewtwo is new and people have just started playing as him

 

[1DeadRabbit]

WELL

'fraid to say Mewtwo didn't de-main Lucario for me,
BUT
he does have some pretty fun moves and is a joy to watch in battle, so I'll keep playing around with him to see if I can get the hang of him.

I'm honestly glad he isn't OP or anything like that.
Save him for the ones who are truly dedicated to him <3

Lol Speed. Glad to know you're happy.

 

[BugCatcherWill]

WELL

'fraid to say Mewtwo didn't de-main Lucario for me,
BUT
he does have some pretty fun moves and is a joy to watch in battle, so I'll keep playing around with him to see if I can get the hang of him.

Lol Speed. Glad to know you're happy.

Nothing wrong with 2 mains

 

[CelestialMarauder~]

What's with confusion my friend always jumps out of it is there anyway I could take advantage of that?

The only guarenteed followup out of Confusion is when you land one under a platform. They are forced into a knocked down state on the platform that sets you up for an upsmash. Aside from that I think that you can't tech if you get hit with confusion (could be wrong)
See you lose nothing by landing confusion, and if your opponent doesn't jump or try to do an aerial, (assuming they aren't really floaty) they get forced into a hard knockdown that you can either ftilt or shadowball lock into some follow up. It's like a pure mind game thing. I'm sure there will be a lot of cool things you can do with it due to conditioning your opponent.

 

[C3CC]

I'm very happy with the results. Mewtwo is just so fun to use. There are two things that are a huge disappointment to me, though, one being not so important but the other one being...

1) His character selection screen location. Just why the hell is he apart from the rest of the Pokémon?

2) Shadow Ball no longer damages when charging. This was especially useful, and now that Shadow Ball takes much longer to charge, we needed this back. What angers me the most is that this property was original to Mewtwo and now it belongs, of all people, to freaking LUCARIO.

 

[ミスティック Speed]

Guys, I did some testing....and it turns out that....
Well...you might not believe me, but...
Mewtwo is even lighter than Jigglypuff....

 

[1DeadRabbit]

Nothing wrong with 2 mains

Of course not.

But from the initial feel I got from Mewtwo, it just...I don't know...it felt off to me?
Like I said, I'll keep playing around and seeing how he feels once I get his moves down more.

 

[SleuthMechanism]

So.. i'm very dissapointed in both mewtwo and the patch so far. Mewtwo has all the exact same flaws as melee mewtwo with only a bit more kill power to make up for it.(he also has no reliable roll punish i've found that doesn't require an rather specific hard read. also why the hell is he SO light?) and it seems that Marth, MK, and Ganon are exactly the same so far.Mewtwo is so close to being the perfect character for my playstyle: lots of kill moves, decent combo ability and ok range. but how early he dies and the weird range on his moves(seriously, is it just me or did fsmash and such get nerfed in range?) along with the potential trouble he has dealing with the evasive options in this game gets me. also, is it just me or have nair and uthrow been a bit nerfed? Nair seems to have a bit less range and priority as well as more lag whilst uthrow isn't quite the kill throw i wa hyped for. Also also, is hypnosis useful at all against a good player?

 

[DrRiceBoy]

Guys, I did some testing....and it turns out that....
Well...you might not believe me, but...
Mewtwo is even lighter than Jigglypuff....

Are you sure? According to a lot of people Mewtwo is only the third or second lightest character.

 

[Schnee117]

Guys, I did some testing....and it turns out that....
Well...you might not believe me, but...
Mewtwo is even lighter than Jigglypuff....

"I want to be accurate to the characters" - Sakurai

Mewtwo, who is usually heavier than Charizard, is one of the lightest characters in SSB4.

 

[ミスティック Speed]

Are you sure? According to a lot of people Mewtwo is only the third or second lightest character.

Test and see for yourself...

 

[Yoshisaurus Rex]

With all this talk about Mewtwo, the 28th just can't come soon enough.

 

[DrRiceBoy]

Test and see for yourself...

Don't have the game with me right now haha.

I'm really doubting that Mewtwo is lighter than even Jiggs. Jiggs being super light is her thing, I don't think they'll just take it away like that.

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

Guys, I did some testing....and it turns out that....
Well...you might not believe me, but...
Mewtwo is even lighter than Jigglypuff....

No

I know mewtwo is light but in melee it took less than 60% last time (certain full charge smash attack characters)

Now he has to be at 115% to get him thats definatly more damage he can take

 

[1DeadRabbit]

Test and see for yourself...

Smash Wiki said he's lighter than he was in Melee as well.
However, I did survive to almost 200% during a 1v1 with my roommate as Mewtwo. He does seem harder to knock out.

 

[C3CC]

Yup, Disable confirmed useless again. It sure is more useful than in Melee, but that's not setting the bar very high.

 

[BlazGreen]

Mewtwo seems fun and viable. That's all I wanted from him.

 

[SleuthMechanism]

oh jeez.. lighter than jiggs with THAT hitbox and less overal safety on everything than rosaluma!? wtf sakurai.. why you do this to the world's strongest pokemon..

 

[Schnee117]

No

I know mewtwo is light but in melee it took less than 60% last time (certain full charge smash attack characters)

Now he has to be at 115% to get him thats definatly more damage he can take

It depends on the character.
Ike, Bowser, Ganondorf and Dedede can annihilate him (and every other character) easily.

 

[SleuthMechanism]

i dunno, nair seems to be still hilarious against bowser and as a former ganon main/current ganon sub i have to sy than mewtwo does seem to have some decent tools for keeping ganon out of murder range.(especially standardorf. customdorf however has wizard's drop kick for getting in and a lovely super armour uppercut for even more kill moves.)I also find it dumb that mewtwo has the worst teleport in the game.(seriously? less range than the other two and no hitbox?) and no custom moves.(first thing i wanted to do was get disable out of there)

 

[Teeb147]

So, now that I got some time with Mewtwo, I can say that he's nothing special.

He feels like a mixed bag in terms of speed, where some things are fast, but he's slow in general.
His double jump feels sluggish, I don't like it. And his back air would be good if it didn't feel so sluggish too, comes out too late too, imo.

His range is amazing though, mostly with his tilts. I found the best tactic to exploit that, and be more on the ground, and go in the air more for combos. it's cool... but I'm more of an air person, ya know? ;p

 

[Saikyoshi]

It's been nine hours. Eighteen waves. That's how long I've been waiting. I've checked the spam folder, I checked other accounts, I checked the spam folders OF other accounts, every half hour since 9:30 AM. And still zip.

 

[C3CC]

I have a suggestion How about changing the name's thread to "Reawakening of a Legend" or something similar? I don't know... I just never liked Spoon Sword. It doesn't even have anything to do with the Mewtwo we have in Smash.

 

[CeruleanFlow]

It's been nine hours. Eighteen waves. That's how long I've been waiting. I've checked the spam folder, I checked other accounts, I checked the spam folders OF other accounts, every half hour since 9:30 AM. And still zip.

Check your Club Nintendo and make sure Mewtwo is in the to-do's, if it is, then you should get codes at some point, you just got incredibly unlucky. Or call Nintendo Support, Nintendo Support is really helpful and I'm sure if you're cool about it they will be more than willing to help you out or explain what's going on.

 

[BugCatcherWill]

Yup, Disable confirmed useless again. It sure is more useful than in Melee, but that's not setting the bar very high.

I actually get quite the number of kills from jab>disable

It works on most of the cast