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BZero

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I'm pretty satisfied with Mewtwo. Definite main, but the 2 things that really bug me is that his charge up shadow ball doesn't hurt people and his back air is pretty sluggish to me. But other than that, he's really fun. (And my main color for when I use him is probably gonna be the bright blue color alt. he has. It looks so nice on him.)
 

Funkermonster

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I was so hyped about Mewtwo arriving today and was eager to get home to play him and the patch. .... until I learned that he's even lighter than before and that he has no customs. But I play Palutena who is also considered mediocre, so I'm gonna play him anyway. I do hope they'll at least buff his weight when Lucas comes though.
 

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Check your Club Nintendo and make sure Mewtwo is in the to-do's, if it is, then you should get codes at some point, you just got incredibly unlucky. Or call Nintendo Support, Nintendo Support is really helpful and I'm sure if you're cool about it they will be more than willing to help you out or explain what's going on.
It's there, I'm mostly just getting really impatient.

I mean... How does Nintendo run short on stock of something digital?! However they did it, though, they found a way.
 

ilikcereal101

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You can tech confusion which kinda sucks and yeah mewtwo is too light I played him in melee and he hasn't improved to much and up air has a really hard time hitting in front. So much for disjointed :(
 

meleebrawler

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Don't have the game with me right now haha.

I'm really doubting that Mewtwo is lighter than even Jiggs. Jiggs being super light is her thing, I don't think they'll just take it away like that.
I think Pichu was lighter than her in Melee.
"I want to be accurate to the characters" - Sakurai

Mewtwo, who is usually heavier than Charizard, is one of the lightest characters in SSB4.
Remember that weight is equivalent to stamina in other fighters. Mewtwo's defences have always been his weakest
point in the Pokemon games except the first generation when Special was broken. If anything I consider Zard
more inaccurate because of this.
 

CeruleanFlow

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Everybody just needs to kinda take a step back and give Mewtwo some more time.. He was never expected to be a God, because we wanted to dethrone Diddy and not make another character that's too good. Mewtwo is good, and has some really cool combo potential. Keep playing with him for a few days, don't get so down and negative with him!

He's definitely the new main :4mewtwo:
 

Schnee117

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I think Pichu was lighter than her in Melee.


Remember that weight is equivalent to stamina in other fighters. Mewtwo's defences have always been his weakest
point in the Pokemon games except the first generation when Special was broken. If anything I consider Zard
more inaccurate because of this.
Even so Mewtwo's defences are better than all other Pokemon in the roster in the Pokemon series.
Then again Pokemon in general is just a really inaccurate portrayal in Smash Bros anyway.
 
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SuperNintendoKid

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apparently Mewtwo still says sentences in the Japanese version despite him getting a new voice actor, why didn't they get an English voice.
 

DrRiceBoy

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Man, Mewtwo is sooo fun. Shadow Ball is frikkin awesome. U-throw and b-throw is frikkin awesome. Mewtwo's tail is frikkin awesome. EVERYTHING ABOUT HIM IS FRIKKIN AWESOME
 
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Schnee117

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Man Mewtwo is sooo fun. Shadow Ball is frikkin awesome. U-throw and b-throw is frikkin awesome. Mewtwo's tail is frikkin awesome. EVERYTHING ABOUT HIM IS FRIKKIN AWESOME

Everything is cool when you use Mewtwo!
Everything is Awesome!
When you use Mewtwo!
 

VeggieSteel

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Everybody just needs to kinda take a step back and give Mewtwo some more time.. He was never expected to be a God, because we wanted to dethrone Diddy and not make another character that's too good. Mewtwo is good, and has some really cool combo potential. Keep playing with him for a few days, don't get so down and negative with him!
I know! All these day 1 haters are bringing me down. Especially because I won't have Mewtwo for two more weeks. Give the guy a chance!

Megaman got the same treatment back during the demo, and now he's, like, top fifteen.
 
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ZephyrZ

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"I want to be accurate to the characters" - Sakurai

Mewtwo, who is usually heavier than Charizard, is one of the lightest characters in SSB4.
That's because he's floating with his telekinesis. I think it's justified. Besides, the pokedex height/weight descriptions are garbage anyway. Wailord is less dense than air.

If you want to point fingers at someone for being inaccurate, point them at Ganon.
Even so Mewtwo's defences are better than all other Pokemon in the roster in the Pokemon series.
Then again Pokemon in general is just a really inaccurate portrayal in Smash Bros anyway.
Going by this logic, Jigglypuff should be absolutely useless, since all of it's stats suck.
Meanwhile, Mewtwo would have to be completely broken. Even if Mewtwo has better defenses then the rest of the pokemon, that's just because his stats are monstrous. Defense and special defense are his weakest stats, so it'd make sense to make him a glass canon.
 
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1DeadRabbit

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That's because he's floating with his telekinesis. I think it's justified. Besides, I pokedex height/weight descriptions are garbage anyway. Wailord is less dense than air.

If you want to point fingers at someone for being inaccurate, point them at Ganon.
Going by this logic, Jigglypuff should be absolutely useless, since all of it's stats suck.
Meanwhile, Mewtwo would have to be completely broken. Even if Mewtwo has better defenses then the rest of the pokemon, that's just because his stats are monstrous. Defense and special defense are his weakest stats, so it'd make sense to make him a glass canon.
I like the way you think, Zachmac.
 

Schnee117

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That's because he's floating with his telekinesis. I think it's justified. Besides, I pokedex height/weight descriptions are garbage anyway. Wailord is less dense than air.

If you want to point fingers at someone for being inaccurate, point them at Ganon.
Going by this logic, Jigglypuff should be absolutely useless, since all of it's stats suck.
Meanwhile, Mewtwo would have to be completely broken. Even if Mewtwo has better defenses then the rest of the pokemon, that's just because his stats are monstrous. Defense and special defense are his weakest stats, so it'd make sense to make him a glass canon.
Telekinesis shouldn't make one lighter. You still have the same mass and weight.
Practically the entire roster is inaccurate to varying degrees. Can't point the finger at a single character.
 

SleuthMechanism

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yeah the lightness just makes no sense even from an aesthetic point of view since mewtwo appears to be about the size of a tall adult human.(and note i said APPEARS. pokedex weight and height are silly garbage as far as i'm conccerned. see wailord and several others pokedex stats for example)
 
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1DeadRabbit

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Hey guys, my roommate and I were talking about this and I want to know what you think.
From Mewtwo's Alt. Trophy:
Mewtwo's Confusion side special not only lets you repel projectiles—it also reflects the damage back on your opponent. Its down special, Disable, stuns an enemy for longer the higher its damage is. As it works by having Mewtwo glare at its foe, this only works if they make eye contact.
When it says "stuns an enemy for longer the higher its damage is," does the "it" refer to Mewtwo or the enemy?
 

TombstoneHD

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Mewtwos' play style is very risk-reward; it certainly seems to reward you for making bold plays, especially off stage. If you screw up though… well, I guess that's what up-smash is for.
 

TombstoneHD

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Hey guys, my roommate and I were talking about this and I want to know what you think.
From Mewtwo's Alt. Trophy:


When it says "stuns an enemy for longer the higher its damage is," does the "it" refer to Mewtwo or the enemy?
Probably the latter.
 

Yoshisaurus Rex

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Hey guys, my roommate and I were talking about this and I want to know what you think.
From Mewtwo's Alt. Trophy:


When it says "stuns an enemy for longer the higher its damage is," does the "it" refer to Mewtwo or the enemy?
I think they mean the enemy's damage. I've been watching quite a lot of videos of Mewtwo gameplay and I did notice that the stun lasts longer on the enemy that has higher damage.
 

ZephyrZ

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Telekinesis shouldn't make one lighter. You still have the same mass and weight.
Practically the entire roster is inaccurate to varying degrees. Can't point the finger at a single character.
Mewtwo is making himself float using his telekinesis; hence his floatiness and lack of knockback resistance.

I think the extreme light weight and floatiness part of what makes Mewtwo feel so unique. I'd love to see him buffed more, but not in that category.
When it says "stuns an enemy for longer the higher its damage is," does the "it" refer to Mewtwo or the enemy?
I can confirm it's the latter.
I like to use it at high-ish percents to combo into slower kill moves like D-smash.
 
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Kenith

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Hey guys, my roommate and I were talking about this and I want to know what you think.
From Mewtwo's Alt. Trophy:
When it says "stuns an enemy for longer the higher its damage is," does the "it" refer to Mewtwo or the enemy?
You would think the latter, however, I was Disable'd by a Mewtwo at 90% and I only stayed stunned for a second or two...I don't remember how high their percent was, but I don't think it was that high.
 

Altair357

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Wait, so does Mewtwo suck?
 
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Bobert

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It's been nine hours. Eighteen waves. That's how long I've been waiting. I've checked the spam folder, I checked other accounts, I checked the spam folders OF other accounts, every half hour since 9:30 AM. And still zip.
Yeah I'm still waiting too..
 

DrRiceBoy

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Wait, so does Mewtwo suck?
Unfortunately, based on first impressions, he kinda does. Gameplay wise. Maybe it'll change as the meta develops, but so far Mewtwo ain't that good. Still super fun though.
 
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Teeb147

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I know! All these day 1 haters are bringing me down. Especially because I won't have Mewtwo for two more weeks. Give the guy a chance!

Megaman got the same treatment back during the demo, and now he's, like, top fifteen.
There's some good stuff on Mewtwo.. I don't think a lot 'hate' him that much.., but.. there Are some let downs,his lightness for one, and for me the sluggishness of certain moves really throws me off...
 

Tom13

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For me, it doesn't matter if Mewtwo is very light, I can make strategies out of this. Lightness doesn't matter, an Mewtwo is one of my mains, and he was fun to play around with, it was so satisfying to spike CPUs with him.
 

PLATINUM7

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I can't seem to get a spike with mewtwo :mad:
when you do it'll be extremely rewarding. I spiked my friend in the air who failed to tech on the stage and bounced straight back up to me to finsh her off
 
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