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ORVO5

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Exactly ;)
Tsk, tsk, I scoff at your presumed God status.
Lol! Wasn't serious, just trying to one-up the self-proclaimed "king" :p
There were those who gave up when the first pieces of info seemingly against Mewtwo's release came out. It was kinda crazy/saddening, really D: I even began to feel stubborn for still believing not long after.
That whole time I just thought, why is everyone giving up? DLC dudes!
 
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BugCatcherWill

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I've spent more time on this board than my studying for midterms :\

What-evs. Who needs a future when you have Mewtwo?
 

ZombieVito

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So the Mewtwo Amiibo was sold out in 8 minutes.... **** ME. T_T
 
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Schnee117

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<------- Not sure if people are taking the Mewtwo amiibo Joke too seriously or carrying on with the Mewtwo amiibo joke from earlier.
 
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Grass

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you guys said you wanted the secret so here it is.
[10:01:49 AM] TGS | Grass: so here's how it is
[10:02:04 AM] TGS | Grass: the down throw for mewtwo seemed a little strange to me.
[10:02:17 AM] TGS | Grass: like there's an existing character that had a throw height similar to M2's
[10:02:42 AM] TGS | Grass: so I thought about it and before you guys criticize me for what i'm about to say, I did comparisons before hand.
[10:02:48 AM] TGS | Grass: and that character is Doc.
[10:02:59 AM] TGS | Grass: it's similar
[10:03:04 AM] TGS | Grass: the height is not exactly the same
[10:03:20 AM] TGS | Grass: but it has a conceptually similar d throw height
[10:03:28 AM] TGS | Grass: from there I went into training mode to test a few things
[10:03:59 AM] TGS | Grass: I've come to the conclusion that it isn't possible for doc and mac to be at 90%
[10:04:08 AM] TGS | Grass: I had to factor in the weight of each character.
[10:04:12 AM] TGS | Grass: Mac is light and doc is heavy
[10:04:32 AM] TGS | Grass: and even when M2 threw them down you can see a difference in bounce height.
[10:04:47 AM] TGS | Grass: just before the up smash
[10:04:54 AM] TGS | Grass: a very distinct difference could be seen.
[10:05:21 AM] TGS | Grass: and seing as the stage was omega colosseum and someone earlier confirmed that Omega's ceiling is the same as FD's
[10:05:29 AM] TGS | Grass: I had a few ideas for percents
[10:05:47 AM] TGS | Grass: but the percents are only the last part of the equation
[10:06:02 AM] TGS | Grass: so I assume we all know the average kill percents on FD.

[10:07:02 AM] William Moran: I know Mario’s Up-tilt will kill another Mario around 120 (I think)
[10:07:15 AM] William Moran: but that depends if it’s fresh or stale
[10:07:44 AM] TGS | Grass: okay so let's assume it's fresh
[10:07:59 AM] TGS | Grass: we don't need to know how much M2's up smash deals
[10:08:33 AM] TGS | Grass: we only need to calculate overall knockback via a guestimated percent
[10:08:42 AM] TGS | Grass: since someone like doc
[10:09:23 AM] TGS | Grass: who's grab throws them almost halfway upward toward's the ceiling at 90% we can roughly confirm that the 2 characters were not at 90% or near 100%
[10:09:29 AM] TGS | Grass: so there's 2 outcomes we can get out of this
[10:10:09 AM] TGS | Grass: 1
[10:10:15 AM] TGS | Grass: as Altair said in the thread
[10:10:38 AM] TGS | Grass: the damage output was 2 times normal condition
[10:10:56 AM] TGS | Grass: in which case making sense of the down throw up smash would be pointless cause there'd be too many variables involved
[10:11:16 AM] TGS | Grass: or the other theory is that M2 INDEED got the raptor boost power that people have theorized
[10:11:31 AM] TGS | Grass: alternatively there is a 3rd option.
[10:11:36 AM] TGS | Grass: or reasoning rather
I discussed this in the skype chat so you guys can argue and flame or whatever at my bad theories.

@Metros @C_Swirl
 
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C3CC

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I think I'm alone in this, but I prefer Palutena's Guidance to Snake's Codecs. They're much better in my opinion.

I wouldn't be surprised if Mewtwo and Lucas (and other future DLC characters for that matter) don't end up getting new conversations for them. They're most likely going to use the currently unused conversation the hackers found in the game's files.
 

ORVO5

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I think I'm alone in this, but I prefer Palutena's Guidance to Snake's Codecs. They're much better in my opinion.

I wouldn't be surprised if Mewtwo and Lucas (and other future DLC characters for that matter) don't end up getting new conversations for them. They're most likely going to use the currently unused conversation the hackers found in the game's files.
Idk, none of those really fit Mewtwo specifically. It wouldn't be that much work to put in new ones for new characters. I mean, if they're making new characters that means there will be customs, trophies, etc. That includes guidance. It should anyway, otherwise it'd just be lazy.
 

Jtails

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I know on the 3DS Jtails used the R button to jump which was awkward to hear but if you're comfortable, you're comfortable. It's all preference in the end.
I used R to grab!! lol and L as shield.

On Wii U, I now jump with X.
 

JesseMcCloud

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I think I'm alone in this, but I prefer Palutena's Guidance to Snake's Codecs. They're much better in my opinion.

I wouldn't be surprised if Mewtwo and Lucas (and other future DLC characters for that matter) don't end up getting new conversations for them. They're most likely going to use the currently unused conversation the hackers found in the game's files.
I agree with both of these things.
you guys said you wanted the secret so here it is.


I discussed this in the skype chat so you guys can argue and flame or whatever at my bad theories.

@Metros @C_Swirl
Do those aluminum hats chafe after a while?
 
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I somehow doubt we'll get a new conversation for dlc characters. I mean, think about it...they'd have to bring all of those voice actors back. And for what? 3-8 lines of speech? I don't think so.
 

Rocket Raccoon

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I somehow doubt we'll get a new conversation for dlc characters. I mean, think about it...they'd have to bring all of those voice actors back. And for what? 3-8 lines of speech? I don't think so.
They could just do it at home and email the lines.
 
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Chiroz

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They could just do it at home and email the lines.
I don't think that's how it works. There's probably recording studios with sound proof rooms that are anti-echo and ****. I have no idea about any of this honestly though, I am just going by what I've seen in series and movies so don't take my word on it.
 

Rocket Raccoon

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I don't think that's how it works. There's probably recording studios with sound proof rooms that are anti-echo and ****. I have no idea about any of this honestly though, I am just going by what I've seen in series and movies so don't take my word on it.
They have editing software. Heck, Xande(a)r Mobus sung the entire Pokemon song without an echo. (Presuming the song doesn't go over the echoes) :p
 

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I'm pretty sure they'd rather do the Guidance's "professionally" instead of in the luxury of the VA's homes.
"Professionally" because frankly some of the voice acting in this game is terrible.
 
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