Southfield MI, 1v1s, 2v2s, Cash prizes, SMASH-TACULAR May 19th 2007

[Firebrand713]

Planet X Game Center proudly presents...

SMASHTACULAR

The ONLY tournament in Michigan featuring CASH PRIZES!

Format: 1v1 and 2v2
Date: 5/19/07
Time: 1v1 warmups, 12:00 noon, first match at 1:00pm! 2v2s start immedietly afterwards!
Cost: $10 per person, per event!

EACH PLAYER IS STRONGLY ENCOURAGED TO BRING THEIR OWN CONTROLLERS TO THIS EVENT

OFFICIAL RULES FOR 1V1S

1. Entrants that wish to use joysticks or specialized controllers may do so, however, any controller with programmable buttons or turbo functions will not be allowed.
   
2. All characters are allowed.
   
3. All matches will be played on a random stage chosen from Pokemon Stadium, Final Destination, Dreamland 64, Fountain of Dreams, and Battlefield.
   
4. No game breaking glitches.
   
5. Items will be turned off.
   
6. Each match will consist of best 2 out of 3 games. Each game will consist of a 4 stock battle, with a time limit of 8 minutes.
   
7. The winner of a game in a match MUST keep the character they won with. Once the match is concluded, the player may then reselect their characters for the next match.
   
8. The loser of a game in a match may, but is not required to, reselect their character.
   
9. Our staff may disqualify any entrant for not following the above guidelines, or for showing poor sportsmanship. In the event of a disqualification, there will be no refunds.

Prize Structure

1st Place: 70% of the pot
2nd Place: 30% of the pot

1st Place also receives an official Planet X T-shirt

$5 of each players entry fee is added directly to the pot.

OFFICIAL RULES FOR 2V2S

1. Entrants that wish to use joysticks or specialized controllers may do so, however, any controller with programmable buttons or turbo functions will not be allowed.
   
2. All characters are allowed.
   
3. All matches will be played on a random stage chosen from Pokemon Stadium, Final Destination, Dreamland 64, Fountain of Dreams, and Battlefield.
   
4. No game breaking glitches.
   
5. Items will be turned off.
   
6. Each match will consist of best 2 out of 3 games. Each game will consist of a 4 stock battle, with a time limit of 8 minutes.
   
7. Taking lives from your partner is allowed if one partner is eliminated before the other.
   
8. Friendly Fire will be enabled.
   
9. The winners of a game in a match MUST keep the character they won with. Once the match is concluded, the players may then reselect their characters for the next match.
   
10. The loser of a game in a match may, but is not required to, reselect their character.
    
11. Our staff may disqualify any entrant for not following the above guidelines, or for showing poor sportsmanship. In the event of a disqualification, there will be no refunds.

Prize Structure

1st Place: 70% of the pot
2nd Place: 30% of the pot

1st place will also receive an official Planet X T-shirt

$5 of each players entry fee is added directly to the pot.

DIRECTIONS TO THE CENTER

Directions to the tournament can be found at www.planetxgamecenter.com. Our address is:

Southfield Plaza
29702 Southfield Road
Southfield, Mi. 48076

In layman's terms, we are located between 12 and 13 mile roads on Southfield Road, in Southfield, MI.. There is a Farmer Jack in the plaza we are in.

 

[petre]

i suppose i could try to make it to this...as long as im not working it should be all good. only half of entry fees are going to the pot though? jeez...not like im gonna win it anyway though...so, anyone wanna team with me?

 

[Zankoku]

So, if ten people show up, 1st place only wins $35? Doesn't sound very worth it to me : \

I mean, the tournament organizer would be getting freaking $50.

 

[D_B_S]

O_O No mod controlls should be allowed or than paint jobs

And Winner should get to counter pick or at least choose stage

..... But I'll probably be there I know where its at I been there before

Played Smash and CVS up there

 

[lain]

er... these rules are bad. you need to either change them or no one is going to go to this. sorry to inform you. : (

 

[Anther]

I'm cool with no counterpicks... They sux, just play them neutrals XD... just allow a neutral to be banned...perhaps... Yoshi's story isn't on the list its fine by me XD.
Controller mods haven't been shown to help in the past...

Otherewise, the rules are fine and playable. They're still similar to our norm enough..

Though I did hear that the brackets at PlanetX don't have a finals between the winner of the winners bracket and the losers backet... This true???

7. The winner of a game in a match MUST keep the character they won with. Once the match is concluded, the player may then reselect their characters for the next match.
8. The loser of a game in a match may, but is not required to, reselect their character.

Winner really should be able to Pick new character, then loser Pick... I mean.. Why not :D?
I mean.. if I win the first match with Pika I'm probably keeping him anyway.. but still... there's no counterpicks on maps.. but still no reason to really have the winner stay their character... though I think Loser should be able to pick one of the 5 stages :/...

But they are your rules, and since I haven't shown up to a planetx tourney yet I shouldn't really have a say... but the winner pick first is sweet =[.

The ONLY tournament in Michigan featuring CASH PRIZES!

And that's very false.
It's the only tournament taking half of the pot XD.

Fountain of Dreams in 2v2

Lag issues :x.

 

[lain]

hmm well it's tolerable but not enjoyable. :D

isn't there anyways these rules can be changed?

 

[Dopey]

teh rules are fine =p

we just need more TVs this time, im not coming unless we are allowed at least 3 TVs to be hooked up at once lol. i mean i hate to sound *****y but a 20-30 person tourny shouldnt take like 5 hours lol.

yea anther i dont think he knows MIs been holdin big cash tournys before he knew what smash was =p

 

[alcoady]

****, i wish i could go. call me crazy but i like the rules

 

[Firebrand713]

We do have a finals between the winners of the losers and winners brackets. Whats the point of double elim if there isnt one? And who is spreading such silly rumors? haha.

My intention on the first stipulation isnt to allow modded controllers, I ment that if you (for some crazy reason) wanted to use a joystick, you could. Besides which, I really dont see how modding your controller would help in the long run.

These are pretty much standard rules for 1v1 fighting games in general. The idea is that if it were being played in the arcade the winner would be keeping and the loser would be able to repick.

Unfortunately, the rules are set in stone.

Are there any other tournies going on in the next month or so in michigan with cash prizes? If so, I havent heard of them. Besides, I know you guys want to play smash competatively, or I wouldnt bother hosting the tournies!

One more thing: You guys are welcome to bring as many TVs and cubes as you want. We can support about 4 without any problems, but we will only be able to supply 2. I recall that someone brought theirs for our first 1v1 tourny but didnt have the correct cables to hook it up, or we would have had more TVs for that event.

 

[Zankoku]

Both of the tournaments our crew held over in UofM had cash prizes.

 

[lain]

hm well i might be able to bring a setup. now that i think about it the rules aren't gamebreaking or anything. sounds fun. i'll be there with a friend!

 

[Anther]

****it, I just remembered tonight, that May 19th is my 1 year anniversary >_<.
I'm really doubting my attendance now XD... unless I can arrange some sort of scavenger hunt.......

 

[Firebrand713]

Haha! Scavenger hunts ftw.

Make sure it keeps her safely out in cornfields looking for thimbles while you come up and wreak havok in our Smash tournies.

 

[petre]

anther, im sure shes the type that would love to watch you kick *** at smash. right?

 

[D_B_S]

Tacos and Sea Shells!!!

 

[SCOTU]

why are $5 / $10 going elsewhere than the winners/2nd places pockets? It's not like this is the only tourney giving cash prizes, i mean, we've hosted ones for cash, and do you see us taking 1/2 profit (besides me placing - bigy is too good), and from the sound of it, your tv's have to upscale (better not be in wide screen), this can generate lag, i've been to a tourney before at a game place similar to this, and the tvs had to upscale, and sent the av through a matrix switcher, generating 3-4 frames of lag. Doesn't work for competitive smash.

 

[Firebrand713]

I understand what you are saying, and there is absolutely 0 frame lag on this projector. There is no upscaling, its not widescreen, theres no switching or anything, its directly inputted to where its going, and the projector is extremely high quality.

Trust me, this is gonna be hot.

 

[Zankoku]

And where is the money going? It seems strange to me that no matter how well you do in the tournament, you still won't get as much as the tournament organizer. Taking $1 out of each person's fee might make sense, to help pay for the venue or something, but 50% is obviously just profitmongering.

 

[Anther]

XD, I'd say hold it at LTU down the street, more normal rules, better prizes (3rd place gets almost as much as 2nd at PlanetX XD ), friendlies, but yall are out of school then aren'tcha... cause I'm pretty sure I saw signs that said 24 hour quiet hours last week. =x?

But it is a gamestore, so basically they probably wouldn't let him hold the tourneys unless they're making a profit off our gambling :x.

These are pretty much standard rules for 1v1 fighting games in general. The idea is that if it were being played in the arcade the winner would be keeping and the loser would be able to repick.

yeah... only small difference is that stages play a bigger role in smash and it isn't quite an arcade game XD. Course, the 5 randoms are balanced enough.

Course, I'm arguing over something I most likely can't attend anyway >.>.

 

[Needle of Juntah]

cant come :/

 

[Dopey]

yea **** planet X lol.

 

[MrMojoRisin]

I can't believe they're takin half the profits. That's a joke.

 

[Anther]

Well, if all the good people are deciding they aren't going to make it I might as well go on and win the thing :B.

 

[Firebrand713]

OK, well, if you guys want a bigger pot, I will gladly charge double the admission fee (making it $20) and the store will take $10. What you guys dont seem to realize is that we are a professional gaming center, we charge as much as we do to ensure that the rent is paid and our staff gets paid. In exchange, our events are the smoothest, fastest, most professionally done in Michigan.

To be perfectly honest, in order to cover the cost of a bigger center, 50% wouldnt be enough. Rent of our facility would cost right around $650 per day, and we can only support between 32 and 44 people in a smash tourny comfortably. We will have multiple TVs running multiple cubes, and the competition will be very fierce, and I encourage all of you to come out and get rocked =).

 

[Firebrand713]

Double Post:

If you wanted to rent us out, you can charge whatever you want.

 

[Zankoku]

OK, well, if you guys want a bigger pot, I will gladly charge double the admission fee (making it $20) and the store will take $10. What you guys dont seem to realize is that we are a professional gaming center, we charge as much as we do to ensure that the rent is paid and our staff gets paid. In exchange, our events are the smoothest, fastest, most professionally done in Michigan.

To be perfectly honest, in order to cover the cost of a bigger center, 50% wouldnt be enough. Rent of our facility would cost right around $650 per day, and we can only support between 32 and 44 people in a smash tourny comfortably. We will have multiple TVs running multiple cubes, and the competition will be very fierce, and I encourage all of you to come out and get rocked =).

It may be the smoothest and most professionally done for game tournaments in general, but not specifically for SSBM, from what I'm reading. But hey, alright. I'll gladly just wait until September and start holding tournaments again in UofM with 100% of the admission fee in the pot, with multiple TVs running multiple cubes, playing according to MLG rules.

 

[lain]

headshottt

 

[Firebrand713]

So what you are telling me is that rather than come to a tournament in a game center, you would rather just have me not throw a tournament in the first place and you want to wait about 5 months and throw your own tournaments?

This is lunacy.

 

[Dopey]

"In exchange, our events are the smoothest, fastest, most professionally done in Michigan.
" ~firebrand

false, i know of at least 10 tournys that happened in MI with more $, more people, more TVs, that went wayyy smoother than any of your tournys man, its just your a youngling that knows nothing of the great smash community, you only play with the same ppl every week from the same city, we all travel around hours just for smashfests sometimes. dont ever say your tournys are run better, specially after that superbowl tourny that took 5 hours and west coast east coast bracket sides, that sir is lunacy.

and how is upping the price to 10 outta 20$ any different than 5 outta 10$? isnt it still 50%? lmao...its not the smash community's fault that you cant pay your store's bills, they shouldnt have to pay for your lack of business, that shouldnt even be braught up considering you love teh game so much and love new challenges, host a tourny where u give 100% of the cash back, and i gauruntee you will get better results and more people and better attitudes toward your place of business.

just had to say it.

 

[B46L3]

Planet X FTL and I'm not coming.

 

[Firebrand713]

Planet X FTL and I'm not coming.

Why not? I still dont see how any of this has a bearing on our tournament.

You show me a professional organization that is giving 100% of the entry fees back in prizes and I will show you a business that is failing.

That being said, we are always open to well thought out opinions. The only way to support tournament gaming is to charge a fee. If you know of a better way of providing a high-definition 80'' widescreen projector with fantastic sound and an outstanding highly skilled SSBM personel, that can hold their own with anyone in the state, without taking a portion of the entry fee, please post it here.

We feel that we are doing the best to promote Super Smash Bros. in Michigan. We are fans of the game, and we are not trying to cheat anyone out of money. But if you feel strongly about it, show us how devoted you are to the game, and come up and beat me in 1v1s, and the very next smash tourny we hold, we will do it your way.

So what do you say?

 

[lain]

oh man. how about if i beat you? come on. we'll even put $20 on the side.

it's really not worth dope's trouble. XD

 

[legoexpo]

lots of hostility in this thread. Yeesh. Southfield is actually pretty freaking close to me so I'll probably head over there with a couple of guys if we have nothing better to do.

 

[Firebrand713]

oh man. how about if i beat you? come on. we'll even put $20 on the side.

it's really not worth dope's trouble. XD

Somehow, I suspect Dope knows how to speak for himself.

 

[Randizzle]

I have to say that it's perfectly fine to charge a venue fee when hosting large tournaments since it can be expensive to hold tournaments, but i'm given the impression that the extra fee is to help the host make a profit since you're taking $5 from everyone PER EVENT. The reason that people are complaining is because the smash community likes to pride itself on being able to organize large tournaments and smashfests with little or no entry fee that doesn't go directly back to the participants.

btw, most smasher's aren't huge fans of playing on very large screens. and projectors almost always have some lag. however slight as it may be, even a single frame can ruin certain frame sensitive techniques.

 

[Dopey]

"highly skilled SSBM persone" ~ firebrand

ummmm incase you didnt kno, the only highskilld ppl were me and joel and sean. narutos ok, but we played with ppl around the nation who are the highest skilled. michigan sux. god why am i tallking.com.....

 

[lain]

>> << sorry firebrand. haha. i just figured i could make some money eh?

it's not like i won't come though. yes it's a little.... different then how player run tournaments go but i'd go just for the experience. i could probably pull out a 2nd or 3rd though :D

 

[Firebrand713]

Ask Naruto sometime... we have been playing together for a long time, he just gives up the controller when I hop on the sticks. And I beat Olu in the first tourny we had last time.

I guess we will just have to see when the tourny rolls around on the 19th. Look forwards to seeing you there Lain.

ummmm incase you didnt kno, the only highskilld ppl were me and joel and sean. narutos ok, but we played with ppl around the nation who are the highest skilled. michigan sux. god why am i tallking.com.....

Is that a yes?

 

[Zankoku]

Who the hell is Olu?