Sorry kids, here's why Geno won't get in. The good news? Krystal might.

[Rick88]

Yes, the fact that Geno had a important role in his game is void due to the fact that there are many characters who do so as well. Rosalina, Twink, and Geno are all very simmilar in this regard, no? >_>

EDIT: And about Geno's popularity, we all know that Sakurai doesn't want to stick with only popular characters. (Or is there going to be a flip here about Geno's popularity, like there was with the mentioning of Cloud's?)

Sakurai has never said such things. To my knowledge he only mentioned that he liked obscure characters better than popular ones. If he didn't want to stick with popular characters then Jigglypuff, nor Pichu wouldn't have been in Smash in the first place. Also, Geno's chances are better than Cloud's for the fact that Geno has actually been on a Mario game. Doesn't matter what Cloud has done for the videogame industry or how he influenced RPG games. I think people are starting to forget this game is meant for "Nintendo" characters only.

 

[Rick88]

of course bowser jr. can function on his own. yes it is true that thus far he has appeared with help (the paintbrush, and the battle-ship), but i think that his paintbrush opens up more possibilites for a moveset then would have been possible before.

I'm not interested in that point. You can talk to Fatmanonice about it. All I'm saying is that Geno's chances are as good, if not, better than Bowser Jr's or any Mario character for that matter.

 

[Machspeed]

It doesn't matter if it was 3 minnutes, and it's really hypocritical to even use such a stance coming from a Geno supporter. His importance to Nintendo's history is also not a good reason, because Geno's got none either. Cloud though is important to the video game industry as a whole, especially the RPG business. He influenced it, not Geno. Cloud would bring in more sales. You seem to have the delusion that there's something about tradition or a importance about history, when there is none. Sega and Nintendo are bloody rivals in the past. Konami has friction with Nintendo even to this day. It doesn't matter though.

And heck, if you want another popular character with history in Nintendo, why not pick a DW representative? They are extreamly popular in Japan, influencial to RPGs as a whole, have teamed up with Mario in the past, and are also owned by SE. =/

Of course Geno is important to Nintendo's history, and if you cannot see that, I'll paint the picture for you.

Geno played a MAJOR role in Mario's first ever RPG, which set the ground basis for every one released today. It was a game that many people remember, and stays in people's mind as one of the greatest RPG's of all time. Geno wrapped around the plot multiple times and he was very important to the game, and the game simply could not happen without his presense. It doesn't matter for RPG's as a whole, but solely for Nintendo's RPGs which are important to it's history.

You answered your own questions in your writing - Sega and Nintendo USED to be rivals, but ever since Sega dropped out of the "console" continuing wars, they haven't been on bad terms. It's even safe to say Sonic has found a home console on Nintendo, now.

Friction between companies could matter less in this game, seeing as part of the only reason Geno has a shot, is because Brawl is being developed by HAL Laboratories. Yes, not Nintendo solely, but HAL Labs, and you can check the boxes on all the SSB game for the proof.

 

[the_Capt_Falcon_Master]

I'm not interested in that point. You can talk to Fatmanonice about it. All I'm saying is that Geno's chances are as good, if not, better than Bowser Jr's or any Mario character for that matter.

i still think that a character fully owned by nintendo, that has appeared in numerous popular games, and has a fair amount of popularity(bowser jr.) has a better chance then one that may have a cult following but has not had a substantial appearance in a game in the past 11 years, and has so much controversy over ownership (geno).

 

[Machspeed]

i still think that a character fully owned by nintendo, that has appeared in numerous popular games, and has a fair amount of popularity(bowser jr.) has a better chance then one that may have a cult following but has not had a substantial appearance in a game in the past 11 years, and has so much controversy over ownership (geno).

What you fail to realize, is that Geno would not be mentioned right now if he wasn't popular. Thing is, people still want him in games, and his popularity, even if it is a small bit is the only thing keeping him alive.
Game & Watch was barely popular before his SSB debut, a retro character like Geno's on the way to becoming, and look how many people know his name now.

And yes you should PM Fatmanonice as far as Bowser Jr. goes. Don't quote me on it, but he was saying something like some of the things Bowser Jr. would be seen doing in SSE, Bowser does himself. Ask him for more.

A WTF character from the Mario universe, which has operated with Mario and no one else, who some people do not know is perfect.

 

[Pieman0920]

Of course Geno is important to Nintendo's history, and if you cannot see that, I'll paint the picture for you.

Geno played a MAJOR role in Mario's first ever RPG, which set the ground basis for every one released today. It was a game that many people remember, and stays in people's mind as one of the greatest RPG's of all time. Geno wrapped around the plot multiple times and he was very important to the game, and the game simply could not happen without his presense. It doesn't matter for RPG's as a whole, but solely for Nintendo's RPGs which are important to it's history.

Geno played a important role, but that didn't effect the outcome of the next few Mario RPGs. You seem to have gotten the character mixed up with the game. Now if Geno was the main character, I'd say it would be valid enough, but he wasn't. Mario was. And we have Mario in this game already. Geno's role was just a standard one, and in no way made the game what it was.

You answered your own questions in your writing - Sega and Nintendo USED to be rivals, but ever since Sega dropped out of the "console" continuing wars, they haven't been on bad terms. It's even safe to say Sonic has found a home console on Nintendo, now.

Answered my own question? I was saying that history doesn't matter. And here it doesn't.

Friction between companies could matter less in this game, seeing as part of the only reason Geno has a shot, is because Brawl is being developed by HAL Laboratories. Yes, not Nintendo solely, but HAL Labs, and you can check the boxes on all the SSB game for the proof.

And what exactly changes things that it's HAL? And what makes you think that Nintendo isn't pooring all their attention to a cash cow like this? (And Konami still has the same friction to Nintendo's second parties and it does to Nintendo itself.

 

[the_Capt_Falcon_Master]

@ mach:
if geno is still so popular how come he hasn't appeared in a game in over 11 years? (m&l doesn't count). And as far as g&w goes im pretty sure they were still making his games for gameboy.

 

[Rick88]

i still think that a character fully owned by nintendo, that has appeared in numerous popular games, and has a fair amount of popularity(bowser jr.) has a better chance then one that may have a cult following but has not had a substantial appearance in a game in the past 11 years, and has so much controversy over ownership (geno).

I'm just looking at it from a realistic point of view:

Like you said, Bowser Jr. has a good chance because he is a "current" villain of the new Mario games, has fair popularity and has appeared in numerous games.

On the other hand Geno has a good chance because he is an important character in the first ever Mario RPG game, he has a large fanbase and Sakurai himself has shown interest in him. Party status might be an issue, maybe not, it was said that if he got in he would count as 1st party.

Looking at it this way both characters have good chances of being in Brawl. And honestly I can see that being the case since there are only 3 Mario Reps (4 counting Luigi) and they would need more if they want the Mario series to have the most reps in SSBB.

Edit: Answering your other question, Geno wasn't in future Mario/SE games because during the time the PSone came out, SE and Nintendo weren't on good terms with each other.

 

[the_Capt_Falcon_Master]

@ the pie and mach argument:
isn't HAL the company that does the kirby games? You know the ones that guy sakauri does? Anyways i dont think that the fact that its partially made by hal has any effect.

 

[Pieman0920]

HAL is a second party company to Nintendo, but yes, they are known for Kirby. Sakurai is currently not part of them any more, but he is working with them for this game.

EDIT: Forgot to say, but HAL's not making Brawl, though they are contributing.

 

[DeuceBlade]

People think Geno has this massive fan base... but he doesn't rofl.. Im sure less than 200 people even care about geno... his fan base is not big.. and people keep saying he got high on the poll and Sakurai's journal entries on him... These could have just been things at that time... and correct me if im wrong.. but I don't think Sakurai said the results of the poll will make a character playable.

Im sure it influences his decision but does not mean he has to be forced as playable.. Geno played the Cameo role once before.. and he can do it again.. as an AT.

Also.. Geno is not that important to the mario universe as people may think (lulz).. Nothing he has done has permanently changed the mario universe or effected it (well atleast from what I have seen).. whereas Bowser Jr has done many things which are canon and effect the mario universe.

If it were not for Bowser Jr, Mario would never have gotten Fludd.. which would not have appeared in Brawl, or Mario Galaxy(sorta, if you played the game you may have seen it).

Bowser Jr's chances are much higher than Genos, If Diddy was added as Donkey Kongs sidekick.. then Bowser jr is needed to be Bowser's Sidekick (although he usually takes the role of the main antagonist)

 

[Heretique]

People think Geno has this massive fan base... but he doesn't rofl.. Im sure less than 200 people even care about geno...

Winnar of "I was born recently, did not play SMRPG, don't know what I'm talking about" award

But seriously, this thread is dead and it was from the beginning.

 

[the_Capt_Falcon_Master]

People think Geno has this massive fan base... but he doesn't rofl.. Im sure less than 200 people even care about geno... his fan base is not big.. and people keep saying he got high on the poll and Sakurai's journal entries on him... These could have just been things at that time... and correct me if im wrong.. but I don't think Sakurai said the results of the poll will make a character playable.

Im sure it influences his decision but does not mean he has to be forced as playable.. Geno played the Cameo role once before.. and he can do it again.. as an AT.

Also.. Geno is not that important to the mario universe as people may think (lulz).. Nothing he has done has permanently changed the mario universe or effected it (well atleast from what I have seen).. whereas Bowser Jr has done many things which are canon and effect the mario universe.

If it were not for Bowser Jr, Mario would never have gotten Fludd.. which would not have appeared in Brawl, or Mario Galaxy(sorta, if you played the game you may have seen it).

Bowser Jr's chances are much higher than Genos, If Diddy was added as Donkey Kongs sidekick.. then Bowser jr is needed to be Bowser's Sidekick (although he usually takes the role of the main antagonist)

i agree with everything except the at thing. I think hes either in or out. they probably wont spend money just to make him a at. On a side note where in MG was the fludd? I've beaten the game and don;t remember seeing it.

 

[DeuceBlade]

i agree with everything except the at thing. I think hes either in or out. they probably wont spend money just to make him a at. On a side note where in MG was the fludd? I've beaten the game and don;t remember seeing it.

In certain area's you'll see FLUDD's nozzle being used to squirt water at mario.. cause him to get knocked back... or travel to other places.

 

[Johnknight1]

People think Geno has this massive fan base... but he doesn't rofl.. Im sure less than 200 people even care about geno... his fan base is not big.. and people keep saying he got high on the poll and Sakurai's journal entries on him... These could have just been things at that time... and correct me if im wrong.. but I don't think Sakurai said the results of the poll will make a character playable.

Better then all other potential 3rd party characters after Mega Man. C'mon, he has over 12 guns built into him, and he knows magic. He could be the first almost all ranged attack moveset in smash, EVER! After Mega Man, Geno is the only logical choice. And explained the 4 votes on Sakurai's poll, and Sakurai SAYING HE LIKES THE IDEA TWICE! You fail!

Go back in the good old SNES days, and everyone played SMRPG. Hell, I didn't even own or play SMRPG, and I knew what it was then.

This thread is a failure. Geno is the main character on SMRPG. Midna is the main character of Twilight Princess storywise. Knuckles and Tails will NEVER BE PLAYABLE IN BRAWL! (though Knuckles is awsome) Issac stars one game in a series that hasn't had a game since 2002. At least Lloyd has a chance because Tales of Symphonia is getting a sequal in Tales of Symphonia 2, though he's a 3rd party character. O, and Golden Sun is 3rd party (sadly).

This is the biggest failure of a character prediction thread ever. Congratulations.

 

[the_Capt_Falcon_Master]

In certain area's you'll see FLUDD's nozzle being used to squirt water at mario.. cause him to get knocked back... or travel to other places.

oh yeah now i remember...

 

[Machspeed]

Geno played a important role, but that didn't effect the outcome of the next few Mario RPGs. You seem to have gotten the character mixed up with the game. Now if Geno was the main character, I'd say it would be valid enough, but he wasn't. Mario was. And we have Mario in this game already. Geno's role was just a standard one, and in no way made the game what it was.
Mario was the main character, simply because he had to be. You honestly don't think a game helped developed by Nintendo would feature Mario as a side character? Definently not, Nintendo would never do this, and a game Mario is in will never have him as a side character, probably ever.


Answered my own question? I was saying that history doesn't matter. And here it doesn't.
I assure you, it does, or we would definently not be seeing Game & Watch. He doesn't put contemporary characters that people like, and are popular only for that reason. Sonic has alot of followers but he is VERY old. That was the first game I've ever played, same goes for Donkey Kong and pretty much ALL of the Nintendo candidates you see.


And what exactly changes things that it's HAL? And what makes you think that Nintendo isn't pooring all their attention to a cash cow like this? (And Konami still has the same friction to Nintendo's second parties and it does to Nintendo itself.
Obviously it doesn't because Konami and HAL, according to you, are on harsh terms, yet Snake appears? Thing is, there's ALWAYS going to be harsh terms between companies, because they are competing at getting the most sales. It's not ever going to be a peaceful environment when businesses are competing.

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[DeuceBlade]

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Mario was a side character in Luigi's mansion. :o

EDIT: oh and in Super princess peach :O

 

[3D King]

I hate comparing Bowser Jr. to Geno because I like them both equally. Why can't they both be in. With Doc out that leaves 2 spaces for Mario eh?

 

[Rick88]

Hey, hey, don't knock on Sora, he may sing "Under The Sea" in a mermaid costume, but he also was capable of kicking the **** out of 1000 heartless



Anyways let me respond to some of these points:

Geno might not have a big fanbase, but I'm pretty sure he has good one if he was recommended 4 times on the poll and 5 times on Sakurai's journal. Now none of us (not me anyways) are saying that Geno is going to be in automatically just because he was high on the polls. All I'm saying is that his chances are good because of that.

Sakurai might go through some trouble with SE to get Geno's rights for SSBB, so I doubt he'll end up as an AT, but its not an impossibility.

As for Geno being important to the Mario universe, well nobody has really made such claims. But technically you can argue that Geno is sort of an inspiration. I mean he was in the first Mario RPG game, he was the first 3rd party made character along Mallow for a Mario series. He was part of a project in which Nintendo worked for the first time ever with a 3rd party to make a Mario game. Well you get the point.

I've already said this before, looking at these points, both Geno and Bowser Jr have the SAME chances of being in Brawl. Both are even capable of making it to Brawl if the Mario series does end up having 6 reps.

 

[Machspeed]

People think Geno has this massive fan base... but he doesn't rofl.. Im sure less than 200 people even care about geno... his fan base is not big.. and people keep saying he got high on the poll and Sakurai's journal entries on him... These could have just been things at that time... and correct me if im wrong.. but I don't think Sakurai said the results of the poll will make a character playable.
You do realize, how many fans a character has does not in the least bit influence who makes the cut. Game & Watch had a ton of support for Melee? Pichu had a ton of support for Melee? This point is very invalid.

Im sure it influences his decision but does not mean he has to be forced as playable.. Geno played the Cameo role once before.. and he can do it again.. as an AT.
Now, this point is definently invalid. Why would Sakurai, go through all the legal loopholes and binds, have to have countless discussions with Square-Enix, just to have an AT? That is simply idiotic, and if he must do all of the discussions and meetings to get him in, he's going to be playable. Either he's in, or he's not in.

Also.. Geno is not that important to the mario universe as people may think (lulz).. Nothing he has done has permanently changed the mario universe or effected it (well atleast from what I have seen).. whereas Bowser Jr has done many things which are canon and effect the mario universe.
Bowser Jr. is simply a replacement for the Koopalings, is all. He is extremely dependent on his dad, and cannot function without him.

If it were not for Bowser Jr, Mario would never have gotten Fludd.. which would not have appeared in Brawl, or Mario Galaxy(sorta, if you played the game you may have seen it).
Not true either. The antagonist could have been MY shadow in sunshine, or any little guy with a paintbrush, Bowser Jr. really doesn't enforce he got FLUDD.

Bowser Jr's chances are much higher than Genos, If Diddy was added as Donkey Kongs sidekick.. then Bowser jr is needed to be Bowser's Sidekick (although he usually takes the role of the main antagonist)
Diddy needed to be in since Melee days. Diddy has been important to Donkey Kong SINCE HIS VERY FIRST GAME, and has been reappearing through pretty much every title. You cannot compare Diddy to Bowser Jr. While I support Bowser Jr., many of your points are simply not accurate. He does not take the place of the main antagonist, with the exception of Sunshine, as Bowser again is the main villain in Galaxy. As said before, Jr. is very dependent on his dad and cannot manage to function without him.

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[the_Capt_Falcon_Master]

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As for Geno being important to the Mario universe, well nobody has really made such claims. But technically you can argue that Geno is sort of an inspiration. I mean he was in the first Mario RPG game, he was the first 3rd party made character along Mallow for a Mario series. He was part of a project in which Nintendo worked for the first time ever with a 3rd party to make a Mario game. Well you get the point.

it wasn't really geno who made that big an impact on the marioverse, it was the game itself. It wasnt geno who sold the game, it was the game itself. Geno didnt inspire paper mario, mario rpg did. Geno did not directly do anything, but yes he was a part of the game that did.

 

[Machspeed]

Mario was a side character in Luigi's mansion. :o
Mario kind of isn't in those games. Luigi was the main character in ONE game, same thing with Peach, which will virtually never happen again as long as Mario is in it. Mario had to be saved by Luigi, technically not making him a side character, considering he wasn't playable.
EDIT: oh and in Super princess peach :O

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[Rick88]

it wasn't really geno who made that big an impact on the marioverse, it was the game itself. It wasnt geno who sold the game, it was the game itself. Geno didnt inspire paper mario, mario rpg did. Geno did not directly do anything, but yes he was a part of the game that did.

Technically the game wouldn't have been the same without his (or Mallow's inclusion). So my point still stands. It's for those reasons why his character might be considered important by both Sakurai and SE. Also I never said Geno was responsible of those things. I'm just saying his character is important because he was part of those events.

 

[DeuceBlade]

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Yes I know a fanbase does not matter, so Im glad we can throw that out the window now.

Im sure there was no big legal thing or meetings to get Geno in as a cameo for Mario & Luigi, so I doubt there will be one now, especially if his role is small.

Bowser Jr is not a replacement for the Koopalings, the Koopalings were just pawns for Bowser, unlike Bowser Jr who doesn't work for Bowser.. he works with him. I don't recall the Koopalings ever being the main antagonist, or having as high roles as Bower Jr. And correct me if im wrong.. but in the New Super Mario bros.. Was it not Bowser who needed Bowser Jr to function. (Especially after he turned all skeletor)

Bowser jr is Shadow Mario...

Melee came before Mario Sunshine, So Bowser Jr did not exist yet to "Need to be" in melee, but I agree Diddy should have been in melee.

Bowser Jr is one of the few Enemies who have actually Taken the role of Main antagonist in the Mario series and consistently reappear throughout Canon mario games.

He is undeniable imo.

 

[Pieman0920]

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Bah, it's harder to deal with it if you do it like that.

Mario was the main character, simply because he had to be. You honestly don't think a game helped developed by Nintendo would feature Mario as a side character? Definently not, Nintendo would never do this, and a game Mario is in will never have him as a side character, probably ever.

What are you trying to prove? That hypothetically in some other reality Geno could have been the star? Well maybe, but the same could be said for any character. The fact is he wasn't. No changing that.

I assure you, it does, or we would definently not be seeing Game & Watch. He doesn't put contemporary characters that people like, and are popular only for that reason. Sonic has alot of followers but he is VERY old. That was the first game I've ever played, same goes for Donkey Kong and pretty much ALL of the Nintendo candidates you see.

Now you're skipping to something else. I know it's my fault you did that though, since I didn't specify that it was company history, though I think you should have been able to follow that much.

Obviously it doesn't because Konami and HAL, according to you, are on harsh terms, yet Snake appears? Thing is, there's ALWAYS going to be harsh terms between companies, because they are competing at getting the most sales. It's not ever going to be a peaceful environment when businesses are competing.

...What? Konami isn't competing against Nintendo. Sony and Microsoft are. It'd be like a theater against a studio. They are still on bad terms though, even though they are not in competition. It can only be assumed that Kojima is what brought them together for this. In any case, Konami's never worked with HAL, and since HAL is part of Nintendo, it only makes sense that they too would be on bad terms. (Oh, look here. Trying to get the most sales. I wonder who would do that better, Cloud or Geno?)

 

[the_Capt_Falcon_Master]

Technically the game wouldn't have been the same without his (or Mallow's inclusion). So my point still stands. It's for those reasons why his character might be considered important by both Sakurai and SE. Also I never said Geno was responsible of those things. I'm just saying his character is important because he was part of those events.

honestly they probably could have put any characters in their positions and it still would have been a good game. They could have even put in standard characters as partners like they did in pm 1 & 2 and it still would have been a good game.

 

[kackamee]

People think Geno has this massive fan base... but he doesn't rofl.. Im sure less than 200 people even care about geno... his fan base is not big.. and people keep saying he got high on the poll and Sakurai's journal entries on him... These could have just been things at that time... and correct me if im wrong.. but I don't think Sakurai said the results of the poll will make a character playable.

Im sure it influences his decision but does not mean he has to be forced as playable.. Geno played the Cameo role once before.. and he can do it again.. as an AT.

Also.. Geno is not that important to the mario universe as people may think (lulz).. Nothing he has done has permanently changed the mario universe or effected it (well atleast from what I have seen).. whereas Bowser Jr has done many things which are canon and effect the mario universe.

If it were not for Bowser Jr, Mario would never have gotten Fludd.. which would not have appeared in Brawl, or Mario Galaxy(sorta, if you played the game you may have seen it).

Bowser Jr's chances are much higher than Genos, If Diddy was added as Donkey Kongs sidekick.. then Bowser jr is needed to be Bowser's Sidekick (although he usually takes the role of the main antagonist)

If Geno didn't have a massive fanbase then answer this, How did he get tiied for second place on the polls?

 

[Machspeed]

Im sure there was no big legal thing or meetings to get Geno in as a cameo for Mario & Luigi, so I doubt there will be one now, especially if his role is small.
You've just agreed that's another big strike against Geno taken away. If he isn't hard to acquire from Square-Enix, then we can be expecting his arrival since Sakurai has shown interest, he's a good WTF character, and his moves/SSE are laid out for him.

Bowser Jr is not a replacement for the Koopalings, the Koopalings were just pawns for Bowser, unlike Bowser Jr who doesn't work for Bowser.. he works with him. I don't recall the Koopalings ever being the main antagonist, or having as high roles as Bower Jr. And correct me if im wrong.. but in the New Super Mario bros.. Was it not Bowser who needed Bowser Jr to function. (Especially after he turned all skeletor)
And Bowser Jr. isn't? Bowser Jr. helps Bowser with minor things, such as tripping up Mario here and there, but isn't and will never be a big antagonist like Bowser is. The Koopalings did the exact same thing for Bowser, except Mario got them all taken care of. (unfortunately, would've at least liked to see them all as a single AT or something)

Bowser Jr is one of the few Enemies who have actually Taken the role of Main antagonist in the Mario series and consistently reappear throughout Canon mario games.
He's not that big of an antagonist. In every game he's in, Bowser virtually always behind him with the master plan.

He is undeniable imo.
I look forward to seeing them both, but I still think Geno has great chances.

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[the_Capt_Falcon_Master]

If Geno didn't have a massive fanbase then answer this, How did he get tiied for second place on the polls?

those were individual people who wrote in. It wasn't like each vote represented a thousand or so people. Those people were just the ones who took the initiative to write in.

 

[kackamee]

Bah, it's harder to deal with it if you do it like that.



What are you trying to prove? That hypothetically in some other reality Geno could have been the star? Well maybe, but the same could be said for any character. The fact is he wasn't. No changing that.




Now you're skipping to something else. I know it's my fault you did that though, since I didn't specify that it was company history, though I think you should have been able to follow that much.



...What? Konami isn't competing against Nintendo. Sony and Microsoft are. It'd be like a theater against a studio. They are still on bad terms though, even though they are not in competition. It can only be assumed that Kojima is what brought them together for this. In any case, Konami's never worked with HAL, and since HAL is part of Nintendo, it only makes sense that they too would be on bad terms. (Oh, look here. Trying to get the most sales. I wonder who would do that better, Cloud or Geno?)

Geno of course..

 

[Pieman0920]

Four people isn't massive. If Geno had a "massive" fanbase, he would have shown up more than he has. =/

And Kack, I assume you're talking about the last thing in my post, and I assume you're joking....right?

 

[Rick88]

honestly they probably could have put any characters in their positions and it still would have been a good game. They could have even put in standard characters as partners like they did in pm 1 & 2 and it still would have been a good game.

I doubt that, but then again my point being that his character might be considered important. I'm not saying these things are going to get him in SSBB, they are just things to consider.

Edit: I also don't think it matters how many games a character has been in, but rather how important his role is. Because I'm sure Sakurai doesn't base his character decisions solely based on what/how many game's they've been in, if he did, we would have Waluigi as a PC rather than an AT.

 

[kackamee]

Four people isn't massive. If Geno had a "massive" fanbase, he would have shown up more than he has. =/

think of how little people voted anyway

 

[kackamee]

Four people isn't massive. If Geno had a "massive" fanbase, he would have shown up more than he has. =/

And Kack, I assume you're talking about the last thing in my post, and I assume you're joking....right?

Well it depends who you ask to vote.

 

[DeuceBlade]

If Geno didn't have a massive fanbase then answer this, How did he get tiied for second place on the polls?

It was open to Japan only, It was Open to people who knew about the poll, it was open to Smash bros fans..

So if you were a japanese Smash bros fan who knew about the poll... you could easily influence it.. because I'm sure this group who voted was not massive.

Geno's fanbase is not massive, thats only what they want you to think.

 

[Enigma14]

think of how little people voted anyway

4 or 5 out of 290

Anyways

If I were a mod I would move this to the proper topic, the GENO TOPIC

 

[kackamee]

It was open to Japan only, It was Open to people who knew about the poll, it was open to Smash bros fans..

So if you were a japanese Smash bros fan who knew about the poll... you could easily influence it.. because I'm sure this group who voted was not massive.

Geno's fanbase is not massive, thats only what they want you to think.

There are people all around the world who love Geno, it's massive

 

[the_Capt_Falcon_Master]

There are people all around the world who love Geno, it's massive

that is straight up opinion.

 

[Pieman0920]

Really, the word massive is not the right one at all here. Four is not by any means "massive." If something is "massive" it would grab a company's attention. Geno hasn't though. In the last couple of years, we've had two team up games between SE and Nintendo, and neither of them had Geno in them. If his fanbase truly was "massive" then he would have shown up in one of those. He didn't though. =/