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When did I even mention that it was an interview? I know it's just a forum but I still think it's interesting that no one talked about this while so many people believed that guy on ResetEra that said Disney asked too much for Sora.
Of course Sakurai said that Cloud was chosen over other FF characters, they never mention other franchises when talking about a character's inclusion.
Disney asks Nomura out of respect anyway. If Nomura doesn't want Sora in then he's not getting in periodt.
i was an interview as an idea of a good source as opposed to a forum with people just sharing some random ideas. you were saying normua rejected sora in favour of cloud even thought theres no proof anywhere. but the idea that disney would ask normua permission to licence one of their characters seems to be based on this thing were apparently they ask normua if they make a KH game without him, not something they do anymore. theres nothing to suggest they ask him for soras other cameos and more to the point why would sora be against sora being in smash? if he was fine with cloud why would he be against sora?
Maybe, it just seems somewhat disrespectful to me to hint at content in a game you're not in charge of. Now, maybe Nomura has the all clear to hint at whatever content he's advising on as long as it's vague enough, but I can't think of any instances off the top of my head where other devs hinted at their own content in Smash.
i was an interview as an idea of a good source as opposed to a forum with people just sharing some random ideas. you were saying normua rejected sora in favour of cloud even thought theres no proof anywhere. but the idea that disney would ask normua permission to licence one of their characters seems to be based on this thing were apparently they ask normua if they make a KH game without him, not something they do anymore. theres nothing to suggest they ask him for soras other cameos and more to the point why would sora be against sora being in smash? if he was fine with cloud why would he be against sora?
It just has to be a unanimous agreement for Sora to appear anywhere out of KH.
Cloud and Sora are two different characters and Nomura perhaps has his own reasons as to why he would prefer Cloud over Sora for Smash 4 (!!)
There are literally tons of reasons why this could be and i'm not the one to give you the answer on that. In any case, my guess would have to be that it's related to KH3 still being in development at that time. Maybe Nomura thought the timing wasn't right, who knows? That's only my guess but as I said, there are many possible reasons.
Edit: To clarify, in case this is true, I found it very positive for his chances and the fact that Nintendo wanted him. Perhaps Ultimate may just be the right timing.
It just has to be a unanimous agreement for Sora to appear anywhere out of KH.
Cloud and Sora are two different characters and Nomura perhaps has his own reasons as to why he would prefer Cloud over Sora for Smash 4 (!!)
There are literally tons of reasons why this could be and i'm not the one to give you the answer on that. In any case, my guess would have to be that it's related to KH3 still being in development at that time. Maybe Nomura thought the timing wasn't right, who knows? That's only my guess but as I said, there are many possible reasons.
The problem is that there's no proof that this was actually said, and no transcript from any kind of interview - for all we know, it was just that user's speculation on the topic. (it's a Kingdom Hearts forum, so it's not like they're a neutral source)
I could claim or speculate that Elma was planned for Smash 4's promotional pick but left out since Xenoblade Chronicles X had been out in Japan for months when that choice was made, but that doesn't make it true, and it doesn't mean that I have any proof of that.
To lighten the mood, I decided I could bring together some of my Spirit Battle ideas for if Sora gets into the game as DLC, bringing a new DLC Spirit Board with him. Here they are in a spoiler folder so they don't clutter up the thread.
(Kingdom Hearts series) Riku Spirit Type: Primary, Advanced ( ), Neutral Type, two Support slots Abilities: Enhanceable at Level 99
Opponent: (Purple/6th Color)
Rules:
- Attack Power ↑ Conditions:
- The enemy starts with an enhanced Rage Blaster
- The enemy starts with damage but is more powerful
- The enemy has increased attack power when the enemy's at high damage
Stage: Dracula's Castle (Omega Form) Music: Forze Del Male
Spirit Type: Support, Ace ( ), Shield Type Abilities: Critical Health Healing (2 Slots)
Opponents: (Pink/4th Color), (Yellow/4th Color), Sora
Rules:
- Health Recovery Conditions:
- Defeat the main fighter to win
- The enemy is healed significantly when the enemy is at high damage
- The enemy has increased attack power
Stage: Delfino Plaza (Western Island section) Music: Night of Fate
(Kingdom Hearts series) Shadow
Spirit Type: Primary, Novice ( ), Neutral Type, 3 Support Slots Abilities: Water Weakness
Rules:
- Strengthen Weapon Conditions:
- The enemy's melee weapons have increased power
- Reinforcements will appear after an enemy is KO'd
- The enemy is giant
The problem is that there's no proof that this was actually said, and no transcript from any kind of interview - for all we know, it was just that user's speculation on the topic. (it's a Kingdom Hearts forum, so it's not like they're a neutral source)
I could claim or speculate that Elma was planned for Smash 4's promotional pick but left out since Xenoblade Chronicles X had been out in Japan for months when that choice was made, but that doesn't make it true, and it doesn't mean that I have any proof of that.
The person who said Sora isn't in because Disney asked for too much money had no proof either but everyone jumped on the bandwagon that Sora was deconfirmed.
No I wouldn't believe you if you said Elma was planned because you have no relation to Xenoblade and insider info about the franchise. Unless you prove me otherwise of course, but other than that, there is no correlation between your argument and the reason I posted what I posted.
I wouldn't post this if it was said by a totally random person. It's just that this one seems to know what's going on especially because they run the KHinsider forum. And while it might be a KH forum, this person made it quite clear that they don't really care about smash and it's proven if you look at their Twitter, it just happened that this alleged info reached their ears since it's KH related.
And don't get me wrong, I obviously don't believe this 100%, but it's way more reliable than any Sora rumour I've seen thus far. I can quite confidently tell you that this person knows what's up regarding KH insider info, so I wouldn't be surprised if they know stuff about Sora and smash although it might seem unlikely.
To lighten the mood, I decided I could bring together some of my Spirit Battle ideas for if Sora gets into the game as DLC, bringing a new DLC Spirit Board with him. Here they are in a spoiler folder so they don't clutter up the thread.
(Kingdom Hearts series) Riku Spirit Type: Primary, Advanced ( ), Neutral Type, two Support slots Abilities: Enhanceable at Level 99
Opponent: (Purple/6th Color)
Rules:
- Attack Power ↑ Conditions:
- The enemy starts with an enhanced Rage Blaster
- The enemy starts with damage but is more powerful
- The enemy has increased attack power when the enemy's at high damage
Stage: Dracula's Castle (Omega Form) Music: Forze Del Male
Spirit Type: Support, Ace ( ), Shield Type Abilities: Critical Health Healing (2 Slots)
Opponents: (Pink/4th Color), (Yellow/4th Color), Sora
Rules:
- Health Recovery Conditions:
- Defeat the main fighter to win
- The enemy is healed significantly when the enemy is at high damage
- The enemy has increased attack power
Stage: Delfino Plaza (Western Island section) Music: Night of Fate
(Kingdom Hearts series) Shadow
Spirit Type: Primary, Novice ( ), Neutral Type, 3 Support Slots Abilities: Water Weakness
Rules:
- Strengthen Weapon Conditions:
- The enemy's melee weapons have increased power
- Reinforcements will appear after an enemy is KO'd
- The enemy is giant
You're missing Xehanort, Xemnas, and AnsemSoD. I think those three are too crucial to the series to be opted out. Other than that, I'm totally confused as to why we'd have two Rikus.
You're missing Xehanort, Xemnas, and AnsemSoD. I think those three are too crucial to the series to be opted out. Other than that, I'm totally confused as to why we'd have two Rikus.
Oh don’t worry! I wasn’t trying to make a full spirit board by myself. I just haven’t fully come up with or written down ideas for those characters yet. I do think Master Xehanort would be the obligatory Legend Spirit of the pack, but I’m trying to figure out a unique ability to give him...
The person who said Sora isn't in because Disney asked for too much money had no proof either but everyone jumped on the bandwagon that Sora was deconfirmed.
No I wouldn't believe you if you said Elma was planned because you have no relation to Xenoblade and insider info about the franchise. Unless you prove me otherwise of course, but other than that, there is no correlation between your argument and the reason I posted what I posted.
I wouldn't post this if it was said by a totally random person. It's just that this one seems to know what's going on especially because they run the KHinsider forum. And while it might be a KH forum, this person made it quite clear that they don't really care about smash and it's proven if you look at their Twitter, it just happened that this alleged info reached their ears since it's KH related.
And don't get me wrong, I obviously don't believe this 100%, but it's way more reliable than any Sora rumour I've seen thus far. I can quite confidently tell you that this person knows what's up regarding KH insider info, so I wouldn't be surprised if they know stuff about Sora and smash although it might seem unlikely.
you were talking about a wild theory as though it were a proven fact. thats what we're taking issue with. and youre gonna need to cite this guys track record on insider information for us to get an idea if theres anything to this
What if the Foretellers were bosses in a future game? They all have the markings to be as such (all descriptions are taken and slightly changed from their KH Wiki entries):
Aced is gifted in spatial magic, creating rifts in the air that can suck in enemies (which we saw a bit of in Back Cover). He also possesses incredible physical prowess, being able to create craters and crack the battlefield with just few hits. He has also shown himself to be extremely resilient as despite having been badly beaten from being overpowered by Ava, Invi and Gula simultaneously, he was still able to dispatch Gula without much effort.
Ava is adept in crafting illusions, which she also uses in her signature technique Foxtrot. She is also able to cast healing spells.
Gula's fighting style revolves around the usage of his (shockingly fast) natural speed, allowing him deal few but precise hits and the flee to safely avoid any major counterattack.
Invi's fighting style revolves around the usage of magic (elemental magic, to be specific), being able to transform Aced's attack into water with a single swing. She is capable of using every known elemental spell at their highest rank in quick succession with no apparent struggle, as she is able to easily conjure fire, wind, ice, and thunder at their max rank at a very fast pace. Invi is also a skilled close-ranged fighter, as she is able to block several of Aced's attacks and ultimately lands such a powerful hit on her opponent that he is barely able to stand up.
Ira is a overall well rounded fighter, being capable in both magic and melee combat. As his primary attack, Ira conjures pillars of light to trap his opponent and then shatters them with a light wave, dealing massive damage.
Oh don’t worry! I wasn’t trying to make a full spirit board by myself. I just haven’t fully come up with or written down ideas for those characters yet. I do think Master Xehanort would be the obligatory Legend Spirit of the pack, but I’m trying to figure out a unique ability to give him...
Hey, that's fair. How many spirits do you think we'll end up getting if they do include Sora? If you ask me 13 is a safe number. But you could say the same for the music tracks.
What if the Foretellers were bosses in a future game? They all have the markings to be as such (all descriptions are taken and slightly changed from their KH Wiki entries):
Aced is gifted in spatial magic, creating rifts in the air that can suck in enemies (which we saw a bit of in Back Cover). He also possesses incredible physical prowess, being able to create craters and crack the battlefield with just few hits. He has also shown himself to be extremely resilient as despite having been badly beaten from being overpowered by Ava, Invi and Gula simultaneously, he was still able to dispatch Gula without much effort.
Ava is adept in crafting illusions, which she also uses in her signature technique Foxtrot. She is also able to cast healing spells.
Gula's fighting style revolves around the usage of his (shockingly fast) natural speed, allowing him deal few but precise hits and the flee to safely avoid any major counterattack.
Invi's fighting style revolves around the usage of magic (elemental magic, to be specific), being able to transform Aced's attack into water with a single swing. She is capable of using every known elemental spell at their highest rank in quick succession with no apparent struggle, as she is able to easily conjure fire, wind, ice, and thunder at their max rank at a very fast pace. Invi is also a skilled close-ranged fighter, as she is able to block several of Aced's attacks and ultimately lands such a powerful hit on her opponent that he is barely able to stand up.
Ira is a overall well rounded fighter, being capable in both magic and melee combat. As his primary attack, Ira conjures pillars of light to trap his opponent and then shatters them with a light wave, dealing massive damage.
Well, they just had the KH3 and Dark Road crossover with Brave Exvius not too long ago. Crossover content in FFXIV looks to be more complicated with quests, equipment, and cosmetics.
Well, they just had the KH3 and Dark Road crossover with Brave Exvius not too long ago. Crossover content in FFXIV looks to be more complicated with quests, equipment, and cosmetics.
Max Dood. You probably know him as the "Assist Me!" guy from the Marvel VS Capcom 3 era, and the guy who went absolutely nuts over Terry getting into Smash. The dude is a major pillar in the Fighting Game Community
Max has just made a 1K Gift Sub bet regarding Sora joining Smash.
Max Dood. You probably know him as the "Assist Me!" guy from the Marvel VS Capcom 3 era, and the guy who went absolutely nuts over Terry getting into Smash. The dude is a major pillar in the Fighting Game Community
Max has just made a 1K Gift Sub bet regarding Sora joining Smash.
That's cool I guess? Might as well sub to him if he wins that bet. But, I'm still feeling that confidence high, so I'm gonna make an effort to get into his streams whenever something Smash related is being announced. Which includes Main directs, The Game Awards, and E3.
Get ready to beat back the Heartless with these new Kingdom Hearts III Tsum Tsums coming to shopDisney Japan. This set consists of eight Tsum Tsum plushes for ¥5,500, about $51.81...
If the Emperor‘s New Groove were in KH3, I think it’d lend itself to the story in some neat ways:
Demyx and Maleficent discover that lots of Heartless are drawn to the world by Kuzco’s selfishness, and seek to manipulate him for their own reasons (Demyx seeing him as a potential reserve vessel, and Maleficent hoping to use his kingdom as a base)
Sora wants to help Kuzco be a selfless person, even if the reasons might be selfish (which could foreshadow Sora’s fate at the end of the game)
If the Emperor‘s New Groove were in KH3, I think it’d lend itself to the story in some neat ways:
Demyx and Maleficent discover that lots of Heartless are drawn to the world by Kuzco’s selfishness, and seek to manipulate him for their own reasons (Demyx seeing him as a potential reserve vessel, and Maleficent hoping to use his kingdom as a base)
Sora wants to help Kuzco be a selfless person, even if the reasons might be selfish (which could foreshadow Sora’s fate at the end of the game)
I mean, sure, but there’s no harm in coming up with ideas for potential worlds. I’m pretty sure their exclusion is the reason people discuss stuff like this in the first place.
Can a Disney investor please tell Bob Chapek to add Sora to Smash? throw some bull**** like "it will increase Disney shareholder value" to sweeten the deal.
Can a Disney investor please tell Bob Chapek to add Sora to Smash? throw some bull**** like "it will increase Disney shareholder value" to sweeten the deal.
This has probably already been said whether Sora makes the cut or not. In fact, there's no doubt in my mind it's already been said. Sora's too popular a character for it not to have been brought up. You just have to hope that Nintendo was able to convince them.
I mean, sure, but there’s no harm in coming up with ideas for potential worlds. I’m pretty sure their exclusion is the reason people discuss stuff like this in the first place.