memphischains
Smash hhkj'
wtf who cares about who 'discovered' what when or how
caring about who did that kind of **** is arbitrary and irrelevant
caring about who did that kind of **** is arbitrary and irrelevant
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Sonics Grab Release on MK
- Thread starter Jim Morrison
- Start date
Kinzer
Mammy
^^
Chains is right, but then again you would be pissed too if you found something that actually made Sonic top tires and you're not going to be remembered as the guy who found it right?
Still who cares, this is situational and I would rather throw because it gets me more damage unless I happen to get lucky, grabbed him over the edge, and felt like being gay.
Chains is right, but then again you would be pissed too if you found something that actually made Sonic top tires and you're not going to be remembered as the guy who found it right?
Still who cares, this is situational and I would rather throw because it gets me more damage unless I happen to get lucky, grabbed him over the edge, and felt like being gay.
memphischains
Smash hhkj'
it has nothing to do with the usefulness of the tech, it's still stupid.
****ing stupid people
let's bet back to its application, we understand it is hard to force but there are still ways to use it. that is were our focus should be
****ing stupid people
let's bet back to its application, we understand it is hard to force but there are still ways to use it. that is were our focus should be
JayBee
Smash Champion
im gonna read you guys comments for now instead of saying anything. i want to see what you brainstorm. let it be known that im one of the "haters" in this regard. right now i see no need to use this "tech" even if its true, so hopefully you can convince me.
MrEh
Smash Hero
Grab releases are lol.
ShadowLink84
Smash Hero
no it isn't, why should someone get credit for your work?
give credit where credit is due.
****ing stupid people
There is no application.
Sonic cannot force a jump break.
The only time they jump is if tthey hit up on the joystick, Y or X on the GC pad or up n the C stick.
yeah not gonna happen, especially since they have every other button at their disposal.
memphischains
Smash hhkj'
lol.
why the hell are you so worried about the credit when it's useless?
and there are plenty of applications for it even though he can't force it. if you are playing a MK player who tries to jump out of every grab then you can use it.
idiot
why the hell are you so worried about the credit when it's useless?
and there are plenty of applications for it even though he can't force it. if you are playing a MK player who tries to jump out of every grab then you can use it.
idiot
ShadowLink84
Smash Hero
Stems from my hacker habits where if you are not accredited for that code, you ca se people.
Fixed
Bag of sperm
Which is why it is useless. You do not choose whether to perform the air release, it is completely up to MK. Let alone it is not hard to force a ground release, after which Sonic has absolute nothing to use on MK.
It is much better to use an Upthrow as opposed to something that may not even work out.
Jim Morrison
Smash Authority
If you think it's useless, get out of my thread and stop trying to convince everyone to stop brainstorming about what you can actually do with this.
memphischains
Smash hhkj'
The best thing I have done in the past is CP on Corneria and try and use that wall
Jim Morrison
Smash Authority
Is that a legit infinite on MK?
(Aside from not being forable. Ah well, I guess you can regrab or jab or something against the wall.)
(Aside from not being forable. Ah well, I guess you can regrab or jab or something against the wall.)
memphischains
Smash hhkj'
its an infinite if they air release. i usually don't try to regrab and use it to dsmash or fsmash. if you try and ARI (Air Release Infinite) then they usually catch on and stop trying to jump out of your grab
i have found that dsmash actually works out better than fsmash does at almost every percent, fsmash hits MK up rather than behind you like dsmash does
i have found that dsmash actually works out better than fsmash does at almost every percent, fsmash hits MK up rather than behind you like dsmash does
Jim Morrison
Smash Authority
I'll add the ARI to OP.
memphischains
Smash hhkj'
I should also explain the fsmash versus dsmash more
fsmash puts MK above you and recovers quick enough to counter attack, probably with a dair or a nair. I've pulled a jab, uptilt and even an ftilt with them coming on the way down but it isn't reliable. Even if you do pull of an attack he'll still be high enough were you end up in a bad spot.
dsmash (unless they tech) will ricochet them off the wall and put MK behind you where you can follow up from there. Even if they do tech the IASA frames (or whatever they are called) allows you to follow up with a jab > grab pretty easily. dsmash gives you better options from my experience goes.
you can chase them if they don't teach with an IDA (Instant Dash Attack) also.
Even though this isn't something you can necessarily force, it is definantly something you should keep in mind. It is just another one of those things that Sonic mains can have that isn't ground breaking, but just another "tool" he has in his back pocket. make sense?
I've been able to do it on delfino, pirate ship, PS1, PS2 (kinda), and pictochat (kinda).
if you experiment on every level the release works a little different because of the shape of the walls but still possible, everyone should take a took when they get a chance just to see what i'm talking about
EDIT - also, if up against a wall sonic can regrab if it is a ground release.
fsmash puts MK above you and recovers quick enough to counter attack, probably with a dair or a nair. I've pulled a jab, uptilt and even an ftilt with them coming on the way down but it isn't reliable. Even if you do pull of an attack he'll still be high enough were you end up in a bad spot.
dsmash (unless they tech) will ricochet them off the wall and put MK behind you where you can follow up from there. Even if they do tech the IASA frames (or whatever they are called) allows you to follow up with a jab > grab pretty easily. dsmash gives you better options from my experience goes.
you can chase them if they don't teach with an IDA (Instant Dash Attack) also.
Even though this isn't something you can necessarily force, it is definantly something you should keep in mind. It is just another one of those things that Sonic mains can have that isn't ground breaking, but just another "tool" he has in his back pocket. make sense?
I've been able to do it on delfino, pirate ship, PS1, PS2 (kinda), and pictochat (kinda).
if you experiment on every level the release works a little different because of the shape of the walls but still possible, everyone should take a took when they get a chance just to see what i'm talking about
EDIT - also, if up against a wall sonic can regrab if it is a ground release.
Khaoz
Smash Journeyman
I tried this but they had enough time to sidestep to Dsmash.
i may be doing it wrong though.
Is it a bad idea to pummel?
memphischains
Smash hhkj'
You want to pummel, and it depends on the distance you are away from the wall, i guess maybe that was you're problem. It isn't right up against the wall up back a little
memphischains
Smash hhkj'
whooops double post
Jim Morrison
Smash Authority
How does this affect the Sonic/MK matchup?
Does it change the choice of levels, the ratio, the mindset?
Does it change the choice of levels, the ratio, the mindset?
Umby
Smash Master
You still have to grab MK. And as it's been said, you can't force an air break. I shouldn't change the matchup at all.
memphischains
Smash hhkj'
maybe a little bit