Sonic Stage Discussion Export: Halberd

[Tesh]

Battleship Halberd​

-Sonic can shark under the main platform before it lands on the ship
-Good for vertical KOs (upthrow/uptilt will kill about 30% earlier)
-No getting caught under the lip with spring
-Sonic's speed allows him to use hazards offensively when he is the target

Lets get to it! What does everyone think of Halberd for Sonic?

Vaguely useful thread: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=10919428

 

[-LzR-]

Not that much experience, but when the ship lands there is a huge ground for Sonic to use. And sonic can easily recovery under the stage and shark and kills a lot better here. The main form just might be a little too small I think.

 

[Phoenix_Dark]

This is another one of those stages that Sonic is good on, but usually helps out his opponents much more. Or is that just about every stage?

 

[Exceladon City]

There's nothing really beneficial or hindering at Halberd. Like, the first part is kinda eh. Sure, you can shark but sharking only really helps if you have multiple jumps or some kind of ridiculous disjoint. The second part of Halberd is FD with a lower ceiling and basically a stationary Smashville platform. There really isn't much use for the Combo Cannon as most people are in fact capable enough to not get ruined by it. I don't really see any reasonable excuse to CP someone here or strike to it. Most of the characters in this game benefit from this stage more so than Sonic.

 

[Tesh]

I personally lile this stage in matchups where I might need to kill off the top more than my opponent (who doesn't though). Like MK, ROB, Peach, ZSS. I can tolerate a bit of sharking on Halberd because the platform is big enough to deal with it defensively until the landing.

 

[WedginatorX]

Don't even think about not banning halberd vs rob. Both times chibo and I have played, I lost to stupid **** there.
With no LGL though. So I suppose things might change.

 

[Tesh]

I'd ban Halberd against ROB if I had like 4 stage bans. Why would this be much worse than Delfino/Brinstar/RC etc.?

 

[XLR8TION]

I ban halberd usually vs snake or gaw, never playd rob on that stage

 

[Kinzer]

MK

Up-B kills? No thanks.

 

[Tesh]

Up-B is the best OoS move in the game. It also stales with aerial shuttle loop. There is no reason it should be fresh.

There is only so much you can do against MK anyway. Halberd is less of a CP for me and more of a place I might strike to in a 7 stage starter list. I'd rather be on pictochat than here, but I'd rather be here than battlefield.

 

[da K.I.D.]

the ship section of the stage makes the ceiling low enough to make up smash a viable killing option.

sharking doesnt do much for attacking but it makes getting back on stage amazingly safe.

on the flying section, the bottom of the hill under the platform is a power position. characters tend to camp there. which i think translates to being good for sonic. an opponent camping at the edge of the stage is harder to deal with than camping in the middle of the stage.